Big Turk Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Andddd we won’t have a season go figure. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, DBilz2500 said: Andddd we won’t have a season go figure. It's the Billsy-est thing of all time. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Richard Noggin said: It's the Billsy-est thing of all time. It really is. Brady finally at age 60 leaves the Pats, we’re clearly most talented team in the division, and a 100 year pandemic hits the US shutting down everything 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: It's the Billsy-est thing of all time. No shite. We finally can make a deep playoff run and the government shuts it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, matter2003 said: This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... 2003 roster was pretty solid. Though we lost Price and drafted Josh Reed which was a step down, the rest was pretty talented. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2003_roster.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: 2003 roster was pretty solid. Though we lost Price and drafted Josh Reed which was a step down, the rest was pretty talented. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2003_roster.htm Ughh that roster hurt my eyes just seeing it. I dont even remember FS izel reese??? Ryan Denney ugghh .. OG mike pucilio?? ... Mike Williams at RT yikes ... LB James "got slow motion juked by Pennington" Posey... The human statue Drew Bledsoe at QB. I forget were we tanking that year?? We should have traded anyone worth a high pick like Moulds, R. Brown, Schobel, etc and started from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, matter2003 said: This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... I would have to agree with your 1993 take. It's not as talented as that team, but the most talented since 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, matter2003 said: This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... I really like the 1998/1999 team; here’s why: - number one defense in the league that season - Doug Flutie with his excellent experience leading the team and many other seasoned veterans still on the roster (Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, Phil Hansen just to name a few). Sure they were at or near the end of their careers, but the experience they offered can’t be underestimated. - A really strong running game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: Ughh that roster hurt my eyes just seeing it. I dont even remember FS izel reese??? Ryan Denney ugghh .. OG mike pucilio?? ... Mike Williams at RT yikes ... LB James "got slow motion juked by Pennington" Posey... The human statue Drew Bledsoe at QB. I forget were we tanking that year?? We should have traded anyone worth a high pick like Moulds, R. Brown, Schobel, etc and started from scratch. Can you name a roster during the drought that had as much as that one. Is it ideal? No, but compared to what followed the next 14 years it at least made Sundays watchable. We finally have a quality team but you're gonna act like we've been in contention the last 2 decades? As a Bills fan that 2003 roster was as good as it got up until now. The core of that team went 8-8, 6-10, and 9-7 from 02-04 in a division when the Pats were dominating. Go ahead and give me a better roster from then until last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Since 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, DBilz2500 said: Andddd we won’t have a season go figure. Stop with the panic. There will be a season. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: I really like the 1998/1999 team; here’s why: - number one defense in the league that season - Doug Flutie with his excellent experience leading the team and many other seasoned veterans still on the roster (Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, Phil Hansen just to name a few). Sure they were at or near the end of their careers, but the experience they offered can’t be underestimated. - A really strong running game. I change my answer. I forgot about that team. If it wasn't for the Music City Miracle, the Bills go to the Superbowl and might win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I think it is the deepest roster of my fandom. In terms of most talented.... I still think that 2015 roster was an extremely talented one and probably had more proven top end performers (we had just sent 3 of our 4 Dlinemen and a couple of our Oline to the probowl in 2014). Where this roster is certainly more talented though is at the most important spot - Quarterback. And the problem in 2015 was the roster had not fully bee built for that coach and the buffoon we had in the headset had no idea how to use it. This roster has been built to McDermott's specifications. And McDermott can coach. Edited April 30, 2020 by GunnerBill 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 The '99-'00 team was pretty good. Defense was outstanding finishing 2nd in points allowed and 1st in yards allowed. Offense was middle of the pack with a decent group of WR's (Moulds, Price, Reed) and RB's (Smith, Linton). QB play held us back from winning the division and getting a bye. Special teams obviously was horrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 hours ago, first_and_ten said: I would have to agree with your 1993 take. It's not as talented as that team, but the most talented since it’s hard to believe we actually had a better defense in 99-00, but should have a more talented offense than at that time. Teams eventually figured out how to defend against Flutie, and Johnson was a tool. 1993 was more talented though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, matter2003 said: This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... The depth question is a tough one to answer. How many here are familiar with all 60 Buffalo Bills rosters from the past? I can say that this roster's depth is as good as any in the NFL right now. How many previous Bills teams could have ever said that? Maybe the early 90's and mid-60's rosters. The talent question is also tough. Are we referring to pure physical talent? If so, the Rex Ryan teams should be part of the discussion. If we are talking about actualized talent, I would say there's potential for skipping over 1999 and 1995 and moving right into 1993 territory. A lot will depend on the development and production of 6 players: Allen (year 3), Singletary (year 2), Diggs (year 6), Oliver (year 2), Edmunds (year 3), and White (year 4). I'm highlighting these 6 because I think they have the most potential on the roster to become Hall of Famers one day. And please note that I used the word "potential." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 As much as I love our roster I still think our O-line is still very average at best. I think the rest of the roster is as deep and talented that it has been in 20 years. Biggest wildcard is Josh and what he does with all the play making talent around him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just WIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I think the correct answer is 1999. I absolutely believed that if the Bills had beaten the Titans they were headed to the Super Bowl. That defense was nasty, and even though Flutie was in decline they had a very good running game and Eric Moulds. These are exciting times to be a Bills fan, particularly if you also believe Josh Allen's best football is ahead of him. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 hours ago, first_and_ten said: I change my answer. I forgot about that team. If it wasn't for the Music City Miracle, the Bills go to the Superbowl and might win. It's called the music city mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, ChattanoogaBills said: Ughh that roster hurt my eyes just seeing it. I dont even remember FS izel reese??? Ryan Denney ugghh .. OG mike pucilio?? ... Mike Williams at RT yikes ... LB James "got slow motion juked by Pennington" Posey... The human statue Drew Bledsoe at QB. I forget were we tanking that year?? We should have traded anyone worth a high pick like Moulds, R. Brown, Schobel, etc and started from scratch. I thought it was Eddie robinson who got juked by pennington. Or am i wrong? Edited April 30, 2020 by dneveu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, dneveu said: I thought it was Eddie robinson who got juked by pennington. Or am i wrong? I tried to find that play and couldn't. But I'll concede you're right sir. As soon as i saw his name i had daymares about it. Ughh Eddie Robinson just shoot your gun and tackle him. He's slow as a turtle smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChattanoogaBills Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Can you name a roster during the drought that had as much as that one. Is it ideal? No, but compared to what followed the next 14 years it at least made Sundays watchable. We finally have a quality team but you're gonna act like we've been in contention the last 2 decades? As a Bills fan that 2003 roster was as good as it got up until now. The core of that team went 8-8, 6-10, and 9-7 from 02-04 in a division when the Pats were dominating. Go ahead and give me a better roster from then until last season. Ughh that was terrible going back through all those flawed rosters but I'll say 2015 was the only one i can say was better. Not by much though but it's all terrible looking back now. Idk how any bills fan (including me) thought ANY of those teams had any shot of making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: Ughh that was terrible going back through all those flawed rosters but I'll say 2015 was the only one i can say was better. Not by much though but it's all terrible looking back now. Idk how any bills fan (including me) thought ANY of those teams had any shot of making the playoffs. I have been a Bills fan since 2002. Before last year, 2015 was the only roster I honestly believed was a playoff roster. There were other rosters - 2004, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2017 - where I thought we had a shot at the playoffs. But 2015 was the only one I thought was genuinely going to make it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I really liked the 80, 89-94, 99, 2015 Bills teams. The 2020 Bills might be the best coached, deepest Bills team I have seen in my life. Not necessarily the most talented, but the deepest. OL, WR, RB, DT, Edge TE...deep. Kudos Beane. Color me impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 hours ago, BillsNutHawaii said: I really like the 1998/1999 team; here’s why: - number one defense in the league that season - Doug Flutie with his excellent experience leading the team and many other seasoned veterans still on the roster (Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, Phil Hansen just to name a few). Sure they were at or near the end of their careers, but the experience they offered can’t be underestimated. - A really strong running game. 1999 is what I was thinking as well: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1999.htm 47 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: I tried to find that play and couldn't. But I'll concede you're right sir. As soon as i saw his name i had daymares about it. Ughh Eddie Robinson just shoot your gun and tackle him. He's slow as a turtle smh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, CBD said: 1999 is what I was thinking as well: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1999.htm Barf. Eddie Robinson. Total Barf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ChattanoogaBills said: I tried to find that play and couldn't. But I'll concede you're right sir. As soon as i saw his name i had daymares about it. Ughh Eddie Robinson just shoot your gun and tackle him. He's slow as a turtle smh. It was brutal...go to 1:37... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) That 1998-99 Bills team had a FREAKISH defenses and some really great pieces on offense SAVE ONE @!#@ piece, of course... On a side note... The Bills/Dolphins MNF game in 1999 was one of THE BEST defensive performance the Bills have EVER had since the AFL Championship days... https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1999-10-05-9910050179-story.html Edited April 30, 2020 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: That 1998-99 Bills team had a FREAKISH defenses and some really great pieces on offense SAVE ONE @!#@ piece, of course... On a side note... The Bills/Dolphins MNF game in 1999 was one of THE BEST defensive performance the Bills have EVER had since the AFL Championship days... https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1999-10-05-9910050179-story.html My favorite defensive performance was the game where the Bills held the Browns to negative yardage until deep into the 4th quarter...also liked the game we played against GB when Mario forced the game ending safety by sack stripping Rodgers... But had some really great ones last year too...I mean you know you have a great defense when you look at the stats and teams don't even have 200 yards of total offense... Edited April 30, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 11 hours ago, BillsRdue said: No shite. We finally can make a deep playoff run and the pandemic shuts it down. Fixed it for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 12 hours ago, matter2003 said: This Bills roster is both talented and deep...no real weaknesses. Quality depth at almost every position and sometimes multiple quality depth players at a position... So...when was the last time the Bills fielded a more talented roster? When was the last time they had a deeper roster? Talented...I am going to say probably 1995, near the end of the Kelly era... Deep maybe 1993...I think this might be one of the deepest rosters I have ever seen for the Bills and that says a lot... Hmmm....2019? https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/215659-bills-90-man-roster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I’d say it’s more “deep” than talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ChattanoogaBills said: Ughh that was terrible going back through all those flawed rosters but I'll say 2015 was the only one i can say was better. Not by much though but it's all terrible looking back now. Idk how any bills fan (including me) thought ANY of those teams had any shot of making the playoffs. Well you know if they were able to beat the Pitt Steelers practice squad ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Most talent since 2015. Depth I'd say goes back much further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I agree with most everyone, you've got to go back to at least the 1999 season. Certainly no team since then can compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1964 - 1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 15 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Can you name a roster during the drought that had as much as that one. Is it ideal? No, but compared to what followed the next 14 years it at least made Sundays watchable. We finally have a quality team but you're gonna act like we've been in contention the last 2 decades? As a Bills fan that 2003 roster was as good as it got up until now. The core of that team went 8-8, 6-10, and 9-7 from 02-04 in a division when the Pats were dominating. Go ahead and give me a better roster from then until last season. No doubt the most talented of the drought years by far, even with some infamous scrubs and the Brain Dead One at QB. On paper and for the first 2 games anyways; what happened afterwards was truly heinous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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