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1 minute ago, CorkScrewHill said:

James Devlin FB retires. He was a very good blocker for them. Sorry that he is hurt, but glad that he creates a hole for the Patsies.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111928/article/roundup-patriots-fb-james-devlin-retiring-from-nfl

 

 

Seems like Bill knew, and told him to wait til post-draft.  They grabbed Keene to sort of play a FB/H-Back role for them.

 

Good player - ST contributor too.  

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I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team.

 

If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock.  Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season).  Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't.  

 

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4 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

As of today at 4:01pm EST, this is an average team. Now if they sign Dalton or Cam, that changes completely. But they are not good. Lost a lot.

 

Your mileage (and opinion) may vary.

 

The moves they'd have to make to free up cap space required to sign Dalton or Cam would negate adding either of those QBs.

 

Would mean Sanu and Thurney would get cut.

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Thank goodness.

 

I was really worried that he had ruined Tremaines career 2 years ago with that devastating block.  That was a man destroying a kid block.  Wasn’t sure Tremaine would ever be the same after getting smashed like that

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3 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team.

 

If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock.  Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season).  Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't.  

 

I’m not scared of the team just scared they end up with Trevor Lawrence 

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25 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

James Devlin FB retires. He was a very good blocker for them. Sorry that he is hurt, but glad that he creates a hole for the Patsies.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111928/article/roundup-patriots-fb-james-devlin-retiring-from-nfl

 

 

Creating holes. Even in retirement. 

 

Color me impressed.

7 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team.

 

If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock.  Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season).  Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't.  

 

 

Well - they cheat. So they have that going for them.

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15 minutes ago, notwoz said:

The Patriots might be a bit weaker. But as long as Bill Belichick is running the show, they will be dangerous. 

Belichick is 51-65 without Brady.

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26 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Their new kicker has a tattoo on his arm representing a right wing militia.  He's been told to obiiterate or cover it.  Yes, things are slipping in beantown. 

 

Lol, that's a feature not a bug in Boston.

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I'd honestly be surprised if Belichick signs a 'known'' QB. I think he's going to be so motivated to do well this season with this roster so he can show what a genius he is, that he can do it without Brady and a roster people are writing off. 

 

At this point Brady and Belichick are like two songwriting partners who have had a bunch of hits but each one feels the other guy unfairly gets too much of the credit. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said:

As of today at 4:01pm EST, this is an average team. Now if they sign Dalton or Cam, that changes completely. But they are not good. Lost a lot.

 

Your mileage (and opinion) may vary.

They have no money to sign either, Cam is in the 18 million range along with Dalton, Pats are negative in salary cap. Belichick would literally have to  gut the team just to get out of the negative, and that means he would have to trade Gilmore since he has an expensive contract.

 

At this point they would be lucky to be able to sign Matt Moore

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59 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Thank goodness.

 

I was really worried that he had ruined Tremaines career 2 years ago with that devastating block.  That was a man destroying a kid block.  Wasn’t sure Tremaine would ever be the same after getting smashed like that


This was the first thing I thought of too. When it happened I kind of felt like it was a cheap shot. Tremaine was not expecting what he got, but he should’ve been expecting it.

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1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team.

 

If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock.  Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season).  Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't.  

 

Their defense has taken hits as well.  Not a good team right now. 

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1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Their new kicker has a tattoo on his arm representing a right wing militia.  He's been told to obiiterate or cover it.  Yes, things are slipping in beantown. 

Team moving to Idaho?  ?  (Apologies to all the non ultra right wing wing nuts in Idaho.)

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It's rumoured that Devlin will come out of retirement to sign a one day contract with the Bucs, to retire on the same team that Gronk and Brady play for.  ?


EDIT:  Full credit to Augie for earlier speculation that Devlin's trying to reunite with Brady in Tampa Bay.

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1 hour ago, chris heff said:

Belichick is 51-65 without Brady.

 

People refer to winning 11 games with Matt Cassell, but that was a LOADED 16 win team the year before. That’s a 5 (FIVE) game drop off without Brady. If you take 5 games off his win total every year you get.....quite ordinary. 

 

Don’t get me wrong, the guy is a genius (and repeatedly a cheater), but he’s not super-human. He’s not great at drafting, and I think at some point going forward I may worry more about the Dolphins than the Cheaters. 

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Thank goodness.

 

I was really worried that he had ruined Tremaines career 2 years ago with that devastating block.  That was a man destroying a kid block.  Wasn’t sure Tremaine would ever be the same after getting smashed like that

Devlin was carrying the rock on that play and bulldozed Tremaine

 

And if Tremaine couldn't recover from that  he wasn't born to be a football player. It happens

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1 hour ago, chris heff said:

Belichick is 51-65 without Brady.

In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. That includes two wins over the Bills. During Brady’s four-game Deflategate suspension in 2016, Belichick got three wins out of a combination of Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett. 

I wouldn't underestimate Belichick. 
 

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2 hours ago, BfloBillsFan said:

I’m not scared of the team just scared they end up with Trevor Lawrence 

That would require a tank, and I just can't see  them getting down with that. Not that they're ethical, or anything (obviously), but I think both Bellichick*, and Kraft* are too arrogant to allow a tank the very first season after Brady* retires. Give them a season, or two, and I'm sure they'll be more amenable to tanking for the right QB.

29 minutes ago, notwoz said:

In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. That includes two wins over the Bills. During Brady’s four-game Deflategate suspension in 2016, Belichick got three wins out of a combination of Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett. 

I wouldn't underestimate Belichick. 
 

Yep.

The Pats* won't suck until they do.

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

They actually struggled to fill his role when he went down with injury, so this is good news. If BB has another hole to fill, good.

In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. Is that struggling?

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40 minutes ago, notwoz said:

In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. That includes two wins over the Bills. During Brady’s four-game Deflategate suspension in 2016, Belichick got three wins out of a combination of Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett. 

I wouldn't underestimate Belichick. 
 

The Dolphins also had a really good season and then the next they sucked. Why? Because the AFC East had easy schedules that year. The Patriots were a stacked team that year coming off their undefeated regular season. Their team is no longer stacked.

 

Not expecting them to really suck or anything, but I just don't think it's possible for them to not take at least a modest step back. If they win double digit games this year, we'll all have to admit yet again what a great coach Bill Belichick is.

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8 minutes ago, notwoz said:

In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. Is that struggling?

What's that have to do with James Devlin in 2020?

 

Cassel went on to have good years in KC, BTW, and made the pro bowl.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Devlin was carrying the rock on that play and bulldozed Tremaine

 

And if Tremaine couldn't recover from that  he wasn't born to be a football player. It happens

And if he wasn’t, that would’ve REALLY sucked.  

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1 minute ago, KD in CA said:

In NE?

 

What he did 25 years ago with the rotting corpse of Marty's '80s Browns teams isn't that concerning.

I also feel it isn't relevant to refer to what he did with Matt Cassel and a loaded roster 13 years ago, but that seems to come up a lot.

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