1ManRaid Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: offense is loaded??? Lmaooo we have been a bottom 5 passing offense in the last 3 years bud Do you not realize we completely rebuilt the offense? We had squat for receivers and a trash O-line, not to mention dead cap hell. It's called a REBUILD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: I mean how can you be that upset with the pick? He was a potential late 1 , a highly touted , versatile DL. A team leader. I think he was BPA and McD just couldn't resist. We're stacked at DL but if you got a guy with his type talent miraculously sitting there at 54 , you take him all day , because he's the BPA and has the highest probability of making an impact I’ll never forget the two superbowls the giants beat the pats with a dominating front 4. You can’t underestimate how valuable a DLine is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: More Michigan players for NE. I thought they wanted to win I think this every time someone mentions Bryce Hall. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nelius said: Taking bpa offense for once? I’m largely playing devils advocate since I don’t mind the pick, but our lack of offensive depth is pretty scary at this point. Here’s hoping for a 4th round diamond in the rough I guess. They spent their first round pick on the offensive bpa. They need to invest in the DL too, or else the defense will not maintain its level of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: I guess corner D-line guys it helps because they typically need speed to get around to the QB, but o-line and middle d-linemen, its more about power/strength then how fast. Yeah but that's quickness - not straight-line speed sustained over half the length of the football field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Belichick feeling liberated from having to build around a GOAT QB. It's touching. He was living a lie all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: We trade back in the 2nd, picked up another 3rd and got the player we would have drafted at 48. Works for me. Cool story get back to me when you're not 7-9 and your jerk head coach stops throwing his own players under a moving bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Bleedingreennc said: We trade back in the 2nd, picked up another 3rd and got the player we would have drafted at 48. Works for me. It's a good setup for you guys. Only concern should be that they're both projection players that you need to play day 1, and development of players is not your coaches strong suit. But other than that, I like your draft so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Ok what teams 4th WR is someone you've heard of? They have no depth at WR. None. Those 3 guys I named likely aren’t on most NFL rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I feel the same way, I'm not saying they didn't get a good player, but its the same every year, they pick up offence through FA and draft for Defence. They have a couple good players on offence and have made one upgrade to it this offseason getting Diggs. The defence was one of the best last year and the offence struggled to score points. The offence wasn't going to win games last year without the defence having a big game. when the defence struggled, they were almost guaranteed to lose Thanks, I didn't think what I was throwing out there was too insane. This team has yet to go all-in on offense under Josh Allen, and hey, maybe they don't need to. I'm a firm believer in the process so will assume balance wins, but I still think it's pretty accurate observation that this team largely focuses on defense. Edited April 25, 2020 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: instead of “trying to win,” what iF we DID WIN those games? Is winning bad? Sure, but going into the games you have to try and win them before you can win them. No one said winnings bad, but like many said last year, the league now requires offences that can put up points to carry a team to victory, not one that needs a defence to keep the score low so they have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, dubs said: graded on wins, actually. And who’s winning with defensive line play in the modern NFL? Good QBs with skill players are. Ask SF how it works to have lots of DL talent going against a QB with backs and receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: I’ll bring this tweet back up when singletary gets injured and we start a guy off the street as RB1 Please do. RBs are a dime a dozen. Staring caliber Edge > starting caliber RB all day, way more quality RBs than there are potential starting DE’s. Never mind that on the FA market a decent RB costs a fraction of what a mediocre starting DE like Shaq Lawson does. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: We trade back in the 2nd, picked up another 3rd and got the player we would have drafted at 48. Works for me. Yep. Two positions of need taken with solid players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Bakin said: If by hilarious you mean ridiculous - I agree. Epenesa is a 1st round talent. No question about it. We stole him. STOLE him. I like Dobbins too but whatever. There are still several RBs remaining that are very capable of eclipsing whatever Dobbins does this year. Darrynton Evans or Zack Moss would be great RBs/values at pick 86 IMO, hopefully they make it there. Would rather have Epenesa and one of those two than Dobbins and Alton Robinson for example. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, BillsVet said: They have no depth at WR. None. Those 3 guys I named likely aren’t on most NFL rosters. Who's the Jets 4th WR. Who's the I dunno, bears 4th? The 4th guy plays like 15 percent of snaps. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Cool story get back to me when you're not 7-9 and your jerk head coach stops throwing his own players under a moving bus. Im talking draft picks here. You want to talk smack, take it to the Depths at Finheaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: This Baun fall is crazy.... There must be real concerns about that Pee test. I think the concern is more about him being a 6'2 230 lb edge rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, dubs said: I’ll never forget the two superbowls the giants beat the pats with a dominating front 4. You can’t underestimate how valuable a DLine is. San Fran's front 4 was dominant this year and it got them to the Super Bowl. We don't need an elite offense. We just need a capable one to pair with our elite defense. That's how you beat teams like KC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: I had him as a late 3rd based on raw talent.... We’ll see if the senior Jefferson can turn him into something. Pretty much the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: It's a good setup for you guys. Only concern should be that they're both projection players that you need to play day 1, and development of players is not your coaches strong suit. But other than that, I like your draft so far. Thank you sir! I wanted AJ, but im trusting what JD is doing. Not used to the way he does things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Sure, but going into the games you have to try and win them before you can win them. No one said winnings bad, but like many said last year, the league now requires offences that can put up points to carry a team to victory, not one that needs a defence to keep the score low so they have a chance. That is why Bills got one of the top WRs with the first round pick. Someone that doesn't need to learn how to play in the NFL. Edited April 25, 2020 by Hardhatharry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: More Michigan players for NE. I thought they wanted to win A certain Wolverine QB seemed to help them win for the last 20 years, what was his name again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, DJB said: Not a corner but a WR like I said I should have remembered they aren't a well run Org. Mims was good value there. Fulton would have been as well. I like how the board is falling for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 LOL! No kids at Casa Vrabel tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: awful pick. career backup IMO i understand your circumspection. he did screw up the combine - but see what wirfs says about him. i have hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Amazing value getting Fulton there. I love Tenn's two picks but I'd have taken them the other way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaaBills Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Seeing all the complaints on here about our pick makes me very confident that it was the correct pick. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 There goes Fulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The Michigan player they needed to win games went to Tampa Bay. Well yeah that one worked out I guess but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: You drafted an incredibly talented overweight left tackle who I imagine will be the first person Gase calls out for being out of shape and a big fast wideout who cant run routes. Is that better? Did Gase sleep with your ex girlfriend or something? What is your problem? We drafted who we drafted, i like what we are doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Im talking draft picks here. You want to talk smack, take it to the Depths at Finheaven You need to go somewhere and still worry about the rest of your Oline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsVet said: They have no depth at WR. None. Those 3 guys I named likely aren’t on most NFL rosters. So you’d rather draft a 4th string WR than a starting EDGE? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Who's the Jets 4th WR. Who's the I dunno, bears 4th? The 4th guy plays like 15 percent of snaps. Maybe. If you’re interested in being a mediocre team then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Thanks, I didn't think what I was throwing out there was too insane. This team has yet to go all-in on offense under Josh Allen, and hey, maybe they don't need to. I'm a firm believer in the process so will assume balance wins, but I still think it's pretty accurate observation that this team largely focuses on defense. I could be wrong in the next few hours if they go a skill player in the 3rd, and hopefully I am. I'm now convinced Sean will never go all in on a dynamic offense. He'll select just enough to keep this a 20 pt per game unit while putting all the pressure for another year on his defense. If we ever win a SB, it will have to be defense centric. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 ESPN is really bumming me out with all the death stories. How about a different angle on human interest stories? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Pretty much the same. Not gonna lie. I’d be happy as hell with Zack Moss 3rd and Lynn Bowden 4th. That’d make me happy as hell. They’re both dogs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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