Draft Rumors 1 week out

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, Mr. K said:

 

We have a pats fan married into the family and honestly its been nothing but fun trading banter with him

If there are children involved, I hope there was a prenuptial agreement they'll be raised Bills' fans.

[purple haze]

3 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

You know how I handle this stuff: follow the dudes in the know.

 

DJ has Wirfs as the 1st OT off the board followed by Willis. That’s probably right.

I fully expect Tua to be the 2nd QB selected.

If it wasn't for health concerns he would be the first.  But I agree, he goes 2nd.  Herbert is not a better player.

[CEN-CAL17]

7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

What are you thinking at 54? I feel like it won't be a true BPA, but the highest rated WR or LB/SS hybrid

I personally think 54 will be a WR.

 

Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault, Denzel Mims, or Chase Claypool. (Dark horse Pittman or Van Jefferson- Both have bloodlines and are big character/process type guys)

 

After all the mock drafts I feel 1 of those guys makes it to 54.

 

Trade up round 3 for Jon Greenard.

 

Round 4 RB Anthony McFarland, Darrynton Evans, Joshua Kelley, Antonio Gibson.

Edited April 17, 2020 by CEN-CAL17

[Estro]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I would wager the first 3 WRs off the board go to San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Philly.

Boy would I love to book that wager!  Accurately predicting the 1st 3 teams to select a WR in the draft is not easy.

[CapeBreton]

18 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I personally think 54 will be a WR.

 

Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault, Denzel Mims, or Chase Claypool. (Dark horse Pittman or Van Jefferson- Both have bloodlines and are big character/process type guys)

 

Higgins was a scary thought at 22 but I’d gladly take him at 54, he seems to be dropping in the rankings and Bills have done their homework on him. They also traded for Diggs the day after they went to his pro day so maybe they hate him too haha.

[Estro]

19 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I personally think 54 will be a WR.

 

Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault, Denzel Mims, or Chase Claypool. (Dark horse Pittman or Van Jefferson- Both have bloodlines and are big character/process type guys)

 

After all the mock drafts I feel 1 of those guys makes it to 54.

 

Trade up round 3 for Jon Greenard.

 

Round 4 RB Anthony McFarland, Darrynton Evans, Joshua Kelley, Antonio Gibson.

Well thought out and I tend to agree.

 

Although I could see the 2nd and 3rd rounders being flipped where we take either a ln Edge defender or corner with our 2nd and then a WR with our 3rd.

 

Its just a hunch of mine, but I think the Bills might be looking for a slot WR Moreno than an outside guy.  Beasley is not a young player and he's okay but I see a path where a 3rd round slot WR could push Beasley for playing time right away.  

 

I've got my eye on, WR,  Devin Duvernay of Texas.  Probably goes between picks 60-90 and I think he could be a real mismatch in the slot early in his career.

[gobills404]

This has probably already been linked somewhere here before but I thought I'd add it just in case. From April 3rd.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team.amp.html

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BUFFALO: After trading for Stefon Diggs, the Buffalo Bills don't have a need at wide receiver, but they also don't have a first-round pick. Sources expect the team to continue trying to add impact playmakers and speed at skill positions.

 

[wppete]

8 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Sounds like we've had several facetime meetings with RB Derryton Evans (3rd), LB Shaq Quarterman (5th) and QB James Morgan (4th-6th).

 

I like that and in the 2nd we get either Laviska Shenault, WR or Micheal Pitman Jr, WR.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

27 minutes ago, wppete said:

I like that and in the 2nd we get either Laviska Shenault, WR or Micheal Pitman Jr, WR.

Shenault would be great. Replaces Mckenzie as that gadget player, but with more upside.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Shenault would be great. Replaces Mckenzie as that gadget player, but with more upside.

Bully in the RZ too. 

 

I'd LOVE that pick, but I've learned to pay attention to what @thebandit27 says

I can't help but feel we will add both a K and P, but McBeane may not believe in burning picks on those positions. Bust rate seems VERY high

[CaptnCoke11]

Need for a dynamic RB2 with speed is bigger need than WR 4/5 

[CEN-CAL17]

50 minutes ago, Estro said:

Well thought out and I tend to agree.

 

Although I could see the 2nd and 3rd rounders being flipped where we take either a ln Edge defender or corner with our 2nd and then a WR with our 3rd.

 

Its just a hunch of mine, but I think the Bills might be looking for a slot WR Moreno than an outside guy.  Beasley is not a young player and he's okay but I see a path where a 3rd round slot WR could push Beasley for playing time right away.  

 

I've got my eye on, WR,  Devin Duvernay of Texas.  Probably goes between picks 60-90 and I think he could be a real mismatch in the slot early in his career.

Van Jefferson was deadly at the Senior Practices. Dude is a tremendous route runne would excel in the slot.  But can go outside from time to time.

Edited April 17, 2020 by CEN-CAL17

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Need for a dynamic RB2 with speed is bigger need than WR 4/5 

This year. Cole is 31 and Brown is 30.

 

WR4 this year may be dynamic WR2 in a few seasons. 

[CEN-CAL17]

2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

This year. Cole is 31 and Brown is 30.

 

WR4 this year may be dynamic WR2 in a few seasons. 

Yes because WR usually need a year, this is a good year to grab one. Brown said it’s a complex offense too. WR & RB2 will be 2 of the first 3 picks. And I think that fits well even with BPA mentality 

[Motor26]

This draft is too deep at receiver to not select one. 

[DJB]

42 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

This draft is too deep at receiver to not select one. 

 

Agreed. I honestly would love to see RB at 54 and WR in round 3 or vice versa depending  on who's  available. 

 

We need to keep infusing offensive weapons around Allen to be successful. 

 

Dobbins/Akers/CEH + Claypool  

 

Or 

 

Pittman + Moss or Dillon  would be outstanding  

Edited April 17, 2020 by DJB

[BritBill]

I'm not a college football person nor do I get involved in draft discussions/mocks a lot. Anyway, my friend who's a Dallas Cowboys' fans asked me last night what I would do in the first 2 rounds if I was them. Dallas are picking 17th (Rd1) and 51st (Rd2).

 

Having looked at several sources for information I came to the following prediction/solution:

 

Trade down with Jacksonville to pick 20. Jags get picks 17 & 51. Dallas now had picks 20 & 40. I'm thinking about 100 points on the draft capital scale to get to 17 from 20 and also 51 to 40.

 

With pick 20 Dallas select Xavier McKinney, Safety, Alabama

With pick 40 Dallas select Matt Hennessy, Center, Temple

 

What do people who know more about the draft than me think of that? My main concern seems to be Hennessy still being there at 40. 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, BritBill said:

I'm not a college football person nor do I get involved in draft discussions/mocks a lot. Anyway, my friend who's a Dallas Cowboys' fans asked me last night what I would do in the first 2 rounds if I was them. Dallas are picking 17th (Rd1) and 51st (Rd2).

 

Having looked at several sources for information I came to the following prediction/solution:

 

Trade down with Jacksonville to pick 20. Jags get picks 17 & 51. Dallas now had picks 20 & 40. I'm thinking about 100 points on the draft capital scale to get to 17 from 20 and also 51 to 40.

 

With pick 20 Dallas select Xavier McKinney, Safety, Alabama

With pick 40 Dallas select Matt Hennessy, Center, Temple

 

What do people who know more about the draft than me think of that? My main concern seems to be Hennessy still being there at 40. 

 

 

 

Hennessy does seem to be getting a lot of buzz late in the process. Personally I think he will still be there. I actually have a late day 2 grade on him (so second half of the 3rd round basically). To me he is an undersized center with good mobility but suboptimal functional strength to be a top flight NFL center. I have him as someone who can develop into a starting NFL center but will need to add some weight and some core strength first. What you love about him on tape is he competes his ass off every single play but I just think physically you put him in front of some of the huge freak athletes that play defensive tackle in the NFL on day 1 and he is going to get blown up.

 

EDIT: should say DB and then center would not surprise me as the Cowboys first two picks in terms of position.

Edited April 17, 2020 by GunnerBill

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I honestly can't believe all the rumors of Miami leaning Herbert over Tua. They're about to do it again. Pass on the better QB due to injury.

 

Culpepper over Brees.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[BritBill]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Hennessy does seem to be getting a lot of buzz late in the process. Personally I think he will still be there. I actually have a late day 2 grade on him (so second half of the 3rd round basically). To me he is an undersized center with good mobility but suboptimal functional strength to be a top flight NFL center. I have him as someone who can develop into a starting NFL center but will need to add some weight and some core strength first. What you love about him on tape is he competes his ass off every single play but I just think physically you put him in front of some of the huge freak athletes that play defensive tackle in the NFL on day 1 and he is going to get blown up.

 

EDIT: should say DB and then center would not surprise me as the Cowboys first two picks in terms of position.

 

Thanks Gunner.

 

My first thought was getting the Cowboy's needs correct and then go from there. 

 

Who on your board is the first center to go? My internet searches today suggest Cesar Ruiz is making moves. Lindy's (which I get every year for quick reference on draft nights) has a top 3 of:

 

Hennessy (Rd1-2)

Tyler Biadasz (Rd2)

Lloyd Cushenberry III (Rd2-3)

 

With Frederick retiring and Jerry's tendency to pick OL fairy early I thought center would be high on their board.

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

50 minutes ago, BritBill said:

 

Thanks Gunner.

 

My first thought was getting the Cowboy's needs correct and then go from there. 

 

Who on your board is the first center to go? My internet searches today suggest Cesar Ruiz is making moves. Lindy's (which I get every year for quick reference on draft nights) has a top 3 of:

 

Hennessy (Rd1-2)

Tyler Biadasz (Rd2)

Lloyd Cushenberry III (Rd2-3)

 

With Frederick retiring and Jerry's tendency to pick OL fairy early I thought center would be high on their board.

 

I think Ruiz will be the first tot go and he is a good player. Personally I like Biadasz a little more but he was a little banged up in 2019 and maybe wasn't quite as dominant as 2018. I think they will be the first two off the board in some order. I have Darryl Williams of Mississippi State as my third guy but I am way higher on him than most... probably by a round or two - I just think he is going to be a really good pro. Cushenberry and Hennessey are then my #4 and #5 in that order.

[thebandit27]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Ruiz will be the first tot go and he is a good player. Personally I like Biadasz a little more but he was a little banged up in 2019 and maybe wasn't quite as dominant as 2018. I think they will be the first two off the board in some order. I have Darryl Williams of Mississippi State as my third guy but I am way higher on him than most... probably by a round or two - I just think he is going to be a really good pro. Cushenberry and Hennessey are then my #4 and #5 in that order.

I have Ruiz-Cush-Biadasz as my top 3, followed by a big gap.

[Coach Tuesday]

9 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Yes because WR usually need a year, this is a good year to grab one. Brown said it’s a complex offense too. WR & RB2 will be 2 of the first 3 picks. And I think that fits well even with BPA mentality 

I like your thinking.  I worry whether they have the discipline to pull it off.  Their comfort zone is scouting defense - they know what they like and can utilize on that side of the ball.  They seem less comfortable with their ability to scout offense and it will be hard for them to resist passing on a corner or safety in Round 2 when there will be guys there who they know with virtual certainty they’ve evaluated correctly and can fit right into the defense in 2020.  Not saying I want them to do that - I don’t, I want speed and skill on offense.  Just worry they will wait until the later rounds since they see their own evaluations on offense as inherently riskier anyhow, so why not wait to spend a less valuable pick.

 

[thebandit27]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I like your thinking.  I worry whether they have the discipline to pull it off.  Their comfort zone is scouting defense - they know what they like and can utilize on that side of the ball.  They seem less comfortable with their ability to scout offense and it will be hard for them to resist passing on a corner or safety in Round 2 when there will be guys there who they know with virtual certainty they’ve evaluated correctly and can fit right into the defense in 2020.  Not saying I want them to do that - I don’t, I want speed and skill on offense.  Just worry they will wait until the later rounds since they see their own evaluations on offense as inherently riskier anyhow, so why not wait to spend a less valuable pick.

 

I think that their first pick is going to be someone that they expect to be a future cornerstone. That’s why I’m thinking it’s CB, since there could be huge value there.

 

 I would be surprised if they don’t go some combination of CB/WR/RB with their top 3 picks.

 

49 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I hope so but I'm with Coach... I'm skeptical that happens. These guys are defensive oriented all around and that's where they are more comfortable.

 

I can see a RB being picked early, but Beane doesn't seem to trust drafting WRs early. I wouldn't be surprised to see them wait until 6th or 7th or even UDFA for a WR as they pass on some good prospects because they don't trust the position.... which is exactly what they did last year.

Never know. They are almost certainly looking at who is a UFA that they may not be able to re-sign. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This is a great point and really interesting. 

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I like your thinking.  I worry whether they have the discipline to pull it off.  Their comfort zone is scouting defense - they know what they like and can utilize on that side of the ball.  They seem less comfortable with their ability to scout offense and it will be hard for them to resist passing on a corner or safety in Round 2 when there will be guys there who they know with virtual certainty they’ve evaluated correctly and can fit right into the defense in 2020.  Not saying I want them to do that - I don’t, I want speed and skill on offense.  Just worry they will wait until the later rounds since they see their own evaluations on offense as inherently riskier anyhow, so why not wait to spend a less valuable pick.

 

I don’t think that  conclusion can be drawn after 2 drafts (3 if you count the one before Beane arrived).  I think they made a conscious decision to rebuild the defense first because that could make them at least competitive in most games.  I think the lesser emphasis on drafting offense was due to that plan rather than them not feeling confident that they can evaluate talent there.

40 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

I think that their first pick is going to be someone that they expect to be a future cornerstone. That’s why I’m thinking it’s CB, since there could be huge value there.

 

 I would be surprised if they don’t go some combination of CB/WR/RB with their top 3 picks.

 

Never know. They are almost certainly looking at who is a UFA that they may not be able to re-sign. 

I agree on the combination of CB/RB/WR - it seems likely that those positions will present the best value at their picks.  I think OT and DE will be picked over before 54.

[CapeBreton]

 

If this is true, Beane is a genius. But I guess we already knew that.

[CapeBreton]

50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

This draft is going to be all over the place, looking forward to some surprises.

[YoloinOhio]

31 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

 

 

This draft is going to be all over the place, looking forward to some surprises.

“the media is wronger”

 

immediately judging the GM who said this.  Thinking it was Caldwell. MORE. WRONG.

[Mr Wild]

46 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

 

 

This draft is going to be all over the place, looking forward to some surprises.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Really interesting thought here, we may see some picks that look to be out of left field. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Really interesting thought here, we may see some picks that look to be out of left field. 

Yeah, like Donte Whitner at pick 8 or Torell Troup at pick 41 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

“the media is wronger”

 

immediately judging the GM who said this.  Thinking it was Caldwell. MORE. WRONG.

I read that in Buddy Nix's voice 

[maryland-bills-fan]

18 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

This year. Cole is 31 and Brown is 30.

 

WR4 this year may be dynamic WR2 in a few seasons. 

What round did we draft Diggs, Brown and Beasley?

 

8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I hope so but I'm with Coach... I'm skeptical that happens. These guys are defensive oriented all around and that's where they are more comfortable.

 

I can see a RB being picked early, but Beane doesn't seem to trust drafting WRs early. I wouldn't be surprised to see them wait until 6th or 7th or even UDFA for a WR as they pass on some good prospects because they don't trust the position.... which is exactly what they did last year.

Well what happened to the wide receiver we drafted two drafts ago in the first round?

[maryland-bills-fan]

7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This is a great point and really interesting. 

Yes, I think there is a lot of "group think".    There is also the famous "trending higher or lower" for this or that player.  OK, the film is all still the same.  The combine and campus visits are all done.  There is very little change in the status of the players already on the rosters or FA signings.   All GM's keep their cards close to their vests and praise every player on their roster to the hilt.   (talk them up for a trade, hide where your team knows the holes are and keep the players happy).

 

Yet,  Joe Blow is not trending higher and .....

 

I have 3 daughters.  I remember while they were growing up, hearing stories of rumors and mean-girl developments that made something out of nothing.

 

I like to hear these rumors, but don't take them too seriously.

On 4/16/2020 at 12:54 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Sounds like we've had several facetime meetings with RB Derryton Evans (3rd), LB Shaq Quarterman (5th) and QB James Morgan (4th-6th).

 

That is interesting.  Can you name the source for this?

[stinky finger]

On 4/16/2020 at 9:18 AM, thebandit27 said:

Falcons looking at moving up?

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109487/article/falcons-poised-to-move-up-in-first-round-of-2020-draft

 

nahhhh....just a rumor.

[YoloinOhio]

36 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

What round did we draft Diggs, Brown and Beasley?

 

Well what happened to the wide receiver we drafted two drafts ago in the first round?

Beane has never drafted a WR in the 1st. He has drafted a WR in the 6th and 7th. 

26 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Yes, I think there is a lot of "group think".    There is also the famous "trending higher or lower" for this or that player.  OK, the film is all still the same.  The combine and campus visits are all done.  There is very little change in the status of the players already on the rosters or FA signings.   All GM's keep their cards close to their vests and praise every player on their roster to the hilt.   (talk them up for a trade, hide where your team knows the holes are and keep the players happy).

 

Yet,  Joe Blow is not trending higher and .....

 

I have 3 daughters.  I remember while they were growing up, hearing stories of rumors and mean-girl developments that made something out of nothing.

 

I like to hear these rumors, but don't take them too seriously.

That is interesting.  Can you name the source for this?

They are all in the visits thread 

 

Edited April 17, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Blokestradamus]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

For sale, you say?