Matt_In_NH Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Need another tackle and RB. Also could use an upgrade at TE but that is likley not happeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Lee Smith is as good as gone. Tough to carry 4 TE’s and 6 WR’s. Too much talent for him to stick and Duke will win out over Lee Smith all day as he can play a hybrid role in a pinch or be the big bodied receiver we need. Josh Norman is a corner. Say goodbye to Jaquan Johnson. Our punter was erratic last season- the Bills will bring in 2 legs to compete for the starting job. Yeldon was in the doghouse last year. Expect the Bills to draft a pounding back or grab one via FA. See ya Yeldon. 8 LB’s on the 53? Hmmmmm If you remove dimarco and consider the new guy core special teams it doesn't make a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: 8 LB’s on the 53? Hmmmmm It's 55 now. And I'm only working with what we have under contract, so if it isn't 8 LBs it's 7-8 WRs (Easley and McCloud), 5-6 TEs (Sweeney and Becker), 5 OT (Salako), 6 DT (Taylor), 5-6 DE (Love and Woodard), or 2 Punters (Vedvik). Tell me you want the 2nd punter Maybe Phillips drops for Sweeney, but everyone else is replacement level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Lee Smith is as good as gone. Tough to carry 4 TE’s and 6 WR’s. Too much talent for him to stick and Duke will win out over Lee Smith all day as he can play a hybrid role in a pinch or be the big bodied receiver we need. Josh Norman is a corner. Say goodbye to Jaquan Johnson. Our punter was erratic last season- the Bills will bring in 2 legs to compete for the starting job. Yeldon was in the doghouse last year. Expect the Bills to draft a pounding back or grab one via FA. See ya Yeldon. 8 LB’s on the 53? Hmmmmm Hybrid role? Do you mean Duke could come in and play the blocking TE role? Lee and Sweeney are way better at that. Or did you mean a pass catching TE? Those spots are taken by better players. Knox, Kroft and even Croom would win that battle. He had enough trouble making the team at WR. With a group that was above average to good. Before FA officially starts and the draft, Duke is clinging to a roster spot. If we sign another vet WR and/or if someone like Claypool falls in our lap, Duke will be in trouble. At WR, let alone a hybrid role. Again, not sure what you meant by hybrid role though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dopey said: Hybrid role? Do you mean Duke could come in and play the blocking TE role? Lee and Sweeney are way better at that. Or did you mean a pass catching TE? Those spots are taken by better players. Knox, Kroft and even Croom would win that battle. He had enough trouble making the team at WR. With a group that was above average to good. Before FA officially starts and the draft, Duke is clinging to a roster spot. If we sign another vet WR and/or if someone like Claypool falls in our lap, Duke will be in trouble. At WR, let alone a hybrid role. Again, not sure what you meant by hybrid role though. I do mean that- Duke can run block and his lack of bonehead plays trumps Smiths. The guy can block and that is about it. We wont carry 4 TE’s and there is better talent than Smith. I think Duke isn’t as bad off as some believe. Hybrid meaning- You can lone Duke up opposite another TE in a basic 2 TE set and still run the ball or get into a seam route. 54 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: It's 55 now. And I'm only working with what we have under contract, so if it isn't 8 LBs it's 7-8 WRs (Easley and McCloud), 5-6 TEs (Sweeney and Becker), 5 OT (Salako), 6 DT (Taylor), 5-6 DE (Love and Woodard), or 2 Punters (Vedvik). Tell me you want the 2nd punter Maybe Phillips drops for Sweeney, but everyone else is replacement level. I forgot its 55 now. As for punter- none of them please. They all suck. 1 hour ago, dneveu said: If you remove dimarco and consider the new guy core special teams it doesn't make a huge difference. Dimarco seems to stick like glue on this team Edited March 18, 2020 by billsfan_34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I just don't see us carrying 3 QB's...probably will add another player to the roster other than QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I just don't see us carrying 3 QB's...probably will add another player to the roster other than QB I don't either. Who from the cut/ps list are you suggesting instead? It's a starting point that will change as we sign (and draft) more players. I'd like more secondary, but we don't have anyone else under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, jwhit34 said: It's now a 55 man roster per new CBA. While it seems like there aren't a lot of spots left to fill, by my count there are probably 16-17 roster spots in play, about 38 locks. If there are 38 locks right now: 1. They have 64 on roster so the first group fighting for jobs numbers 26 2. They will have 7 draft picks (as of now) 3. That leaves 19 roster spots to fill out to get to 90 going into training camp (actually 20 I think they still get exemption for Wade). Locks on offense: QB: Allen, Barkley RB: Singletary FB: DiMarco WR: Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Roberts (return man) OL: Morse, Dawkins, Spain, Feliciano, Ford, Nsekhe, Long TE: Knox, Kroft, Sweeney Total locks on offense: 18 Special teams: Hauschka, Ferguson and a punter - 3 locks Locks on defense: DL: Hughes, Addison, Jefferson, Butler, Oliver, H Phillips, Star LB: Edmunds, Milano, Klein, Matakevich CB: White, Wallace, T Johnson, Norman S: Hyde, Poyer Total locks on defense: 17 That's 38, 17 spots left. Spots to fill: RB: 2 Yeldon likely, at least 1 not on roster yet. Wade is a wild card but far from done deal. Add vet FA and/or draft 1 WR: 2 more, will get at least one in draft then either add a free agent or maybe D. Williams or Foster. OL: 2 more to get to 9 maybe even keep 10 with the roster now at 55. Bates probably stays but depends if they pick up a minimum guy (Waddle) also think they draft at least 1. TE: Probably keep 4 so 1 more not convinced Lee Smith is here, could be cap casualty. DL: Add 2, probably keep 9, Murphy probably makes it but could see them cutting him loose, also have Darryl Johnson, if he shows promise they will want a developmental/young/cheap guy LB: 3 more, Joseph and Dodson in mix, could bring back minimum salary guys for 1-2 spots and draft one CB: 2 more, will draft 1, have SIran Neal who likely makes it S: Need 2 have J. Johnson who they seem to like, may draft 1, Marlowe is always out there. That's how I think it breaks down. That’s good work. I’d probably move DiMarco from lock to maybe. I’d probably move Neal to lock after the way he played late in the year. As a raw, young player he’s developed and is versatile. That’s nitpicking a little but overall really nice job!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley RB: Devin Singletary, TJ Yeldon, Christian Wade FB: Patrick DiMarco WR: Stefon Diggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Duke Williams, Robert Foster, Andre Roberts TE: Dawson Knox, Tyler Kroft, Lee Smith, Tommy Sweeney, Jason Croom OT: Dion Dawkins, Ty Nsekhe, Cody Ford, Ryan Bates OG: Quinton Spain, Jon Feliciano, Spencer Long, Ike Boettger OC: Mitch Morse DT: Ed Oliver, Star Lotulelei, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler, Harrison Phillips DE: Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Trent Murphy, Darryl Johnson OLB: Matt Milano, AJ Klein, Vosean Joseph, Tyler Matakevich, Corey Thompson, Tyrel Dodson ILB: Tremaine Edmunds, Del'Shawn Phillips S: Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Siran Neal, Jaquan Johnson CB: Tre'Davious White, Levi Wallace, Josh Norman, Taron Johnson, Cam Lewis LS: Reid Ferguson K: Stephen Hauschka P: Corey Bojorquez PS/Cuts: Davis Webb(QB), Nick Easley(WR), Ray-Ray McCloud(WR), Nate Becker(TE), Victor Salako(OT), Vincent Taylor(DT), Mike Love(DE), Jonathan Woodard(DE), Kaare Vedvik(P) FA's that could be retained: Senorise Perry(RB), Isaiah McKenzie(WR), LaAdrian Waddle(OT), Isaac Asiata(OG), Corey Liuget(DT), Maurice Alexander(LB), Julian Stanford(LB), Kurt Coleman(S), Dean Marlowe(S), Kevin Johnson(CB) Positions I think we're set at are FB, OG, C, DT, LS, K Positions we are thin at are RB, ILB, S Positions that I wouldn't be surprised to see more moves at are QB, WR, TE, OT, DE, OLB, CB, P Thoughts? This is just based on what we know so far and I will try to keep the OP as up to date as possible. Only one Williams ? I remember those 6-8 wins years so fondly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s good work. I’d probably move DiMarco from lock to maybe. I’d probably move Neal to lock after the way he played late in the year. As a raw, young player he’s developed and is versatile. That’s nitpicking a little but overall really nice job!! Siran Neal definitely makes this team. That speed was unreal he played with. Playing slot or safety gives him a roster spot no doubt. Obviously as others pointed out it’s waaaaay too early but Vosean Joseph is gonna be backup ILB for Edmunds possibly along with the new special teams guy. That’s just my opinion. Joseph has traits that could push him into meaningful snaps quickly next season. Once again just my opinion but I’m big on the Vosean hype train 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I don't either. Who from the cut/ps list are you suggesting instead? It's a starting point that will change as we sign (and draft) more players. I'd like more secondary, but we don't have anyone else under contract. Well it's obvious several of their draft picks will be making the roster so I'd likely say they would come from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Well it's obvious several of their draft picks will be making the roster so I'd likely say they would come from there Right. I plan on updating the OP as we sign and draft players. The current post is just what we currently have. I figured it'd help everyone focus on what they actually think we should pursue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I'd put McKittrick over Foster, and ANYONE over Bodork. From the FA list, I want Waddle and Liuget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Wouldn’t it be something, I mean truly amazing if the jaw-dropping preseason performance we saw in Wade transfers to him having learned enough during his ‘training camp’ to make the 55? I think we’re already striking fear in the League with Singletary, Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Dawson & Allen and a solid OL. Imagine Wade bursting onto the scene with consistent thrilling play in the Regular Season! Gives me the chills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 updated with Taiwan Jones bumping CWade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I think they will stick with 2 QB’s myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Hokie ... long snapper is always a concern so Reid Ferguson better know I have my eye on him. Otherwise RB, bleck. Singletary seems like he's done at 10 carries for some reason and theres nothing behind him. I'd also wack Jason pegula Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 Updated with Marlowe re-signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 pretty sure we resigned LaAdrian Waddle too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I've heard said that Mike Love was having a really good camp last yr until he got hurt & was wondering if he might beat out Murph if he comes back & continues to show he's playing better others on the team ? Given the talk of Murph being cut to free up some added cap room & until the end of last season him being very lack luster in his roll on the D he has a great motor but if Love can prove his worth at a lessor price could Murph be collateral damage ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 This will be the best roster since the SB days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, gordong said: pretty sure we resigned LaAdrian Waddle too Haven't seen anything official and he isn't listed on our roster yet. Please post confirmation if you find it! 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: This will be the best roster since the SB days. It's crazy to look at and realize we aren't even through the value portion of FA or the draft yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 6:54 AM, billsfan_34 said: Lee Smith is as good as gone. Tough to carry 4 TE’s and 6 WR’s. Too much talent for him to stick and Duke will win out over Lee Smith all day as he can play a hybrid role in a pinch or be the big bodied receiver we need. Josh Norman is a corner. Say goodbye to Jaquan Johnson. Our punter was erratic last season- the Bills will bring in 2 legs to compete for the starting job. Yeldon was in the doghouse last year. Expect the Bills to draft a pounding back or grab one via FA. See ya Yeldon. 8 LB’s on the 53? Hmmmmm Agree on all counts. There's no way Lee Smith stays on this team over players like Sweeney & Duke. And clearly obd moved on from Yeldon last year. He also will be upgraded. We have to bring in 2 new punters to replace Bozo. Sean will keep extra LB's because of his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Agree on all counts. There's no way Lee Smith stays on this team over players like Sweeney & Duke. And clearly obd moved on from Yeldon last year. He also will be upgraded. We have to bring in 2 new punters to replace Bozo. Sean will keep extra LB's because of his system. ?- as the talent is stacked the less talented fall off- in this case Yeldon and Smith are gone. Bozo may be the most erratic punter ever in a Bills uniform. We must upgrade the P position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 updated with McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: updated with McKenzie. Glad he is back. Much prefer him to Foster and Duke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 updated with EJ Gaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Was reading an column in the Athletic today and it made an interesting point. It talked about how the top 3 slots are all set, but depth remains a question and also addressed that WR is one of the positions that takes the longest for a rookie to come up to speed, but with getting Diggs they don't need a rookie to contribute much. Also talked about a few FA names they could still sign. Nothing really new there! But did get me thinking, assuming the Bills do draft a WR in 2020 would he be add more as a backup rookie than a McKenzie, Foster, or Williams, maybe,maybe not. So what as this article suggested if they draft a guy like South Carolina’s Bryan Edwards who was hurt so his draft slot will drop as result. Maybe he's ready to go, maybe not, so could stash him on IR for a year to develop without taking up a roster spot. On the other hand if prior to week 1 someone else gets hurt and out for the season, could keep him active. Or he clearly is better than the 3 names I mentioned as backups, you keep him active. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 11:03 AM, njbuff said: This will be the best roster since the SB days. Kelly Thomas Smith Reed Lofton Levy Not sure this roster has 6 future HOFer's. Plus a borderline in Tasker. They are pretty complete though.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 Updated with likely starting RT, Daryl Williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Kelly Thomas Smith Reed Lofton Levy Not sure this roster has 6 future HOFer's. Plus a borderline in Tasker. They are pretty complete though.? The talent is there for the 2020 Bills. We shall see if it comes together and is a SB contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Not too shabby...and we haven’t drafted a single player yet! Some talented guys are going to get cut and then quickly snatched up by other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 You have a strong roster for who is currently a Bill- I am surprised we have no real backup ILB on roster and I assume that will be addressed relatively quickly. But I like that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Dude we are so stacked!!!! I've never seen a Bill's team this good on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 And the cap looks solid next year right now. Draft will hopefully fill in RB, WR, Edge, and another CB. What do you think about bringing in Flacco @ 8 Million on a one year deal. Just in case ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 For those dismissing Lee Smith and the value he brings to the team, I believe he would be (is?) the emergency offensive lineman. Because a lot of times didnt the Bills only dress 7 OL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Not too shabby...and we haven’t drafted a single player yet! Some talented guys are going to get cut and then quickly snatched up by other teams. Hopefully Beane can put on his wizard's hat and once again trade those players that aren't going to make the cut on this deep roster and stock up on some more draft capital to use like the 5th and 6th round picks (Teller / Bodine) that were a part of the Diggs deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 9:48 AM, Circlethewagon8404 said: Maybe this should be pinned cuz we know this will be brought up again after the draft and throughout the off-season I’ve got my ? on it. On 3/18/2020 at 9:52 AM, Jay free said: Bring Andy dalton home to buffalo his adopted home and biggest donor to his charity......also draft rb from Wisconsin Jonathan taylor ....trade up to 32 with chiefs and give up next years first..... add Cameron wake and Dion lewis This is a PSA. Step away from the keyboard. Consider it infected and Do not touch it again for weeks. Learn pro football and how to intermingle with those who do. 8 hours ago, Paul Costa said: And the cap looks solid next year right now. Draft will hopefully fill in RB, WR, Edge, and another CB. What do you think about bringing in Flacco @ 8 Million on a one year deal. Just in case ? Back up QB has been a glaring weakness since we were left with Barkley. Look no further than the regular season finale. I thinks there’s gotta be better options than Flacco, but yes, it’s an absolute need. Also must add an effective RB & Punter. THEN, we’ll be set. oh, and bring back the Jills.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) I give Barkley a pass for game week 17 , resting too many Bills starters for the playoffs did him in. jmo With a healthy OL and adding Diggs and hope a good replacement for Gore , Barkley should be ok if needed. He seems to have good chemistry with Allen , and now he knows the system and players. Edited March 27, 2020 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, ALF said: I give Barkley a pass for game week 17 , resting too many Bills starters for the playoffs did him in. jmo With a healthy OL and adding Diggs and hope a good replacement for Gore , Barkley should be ok if needed. He seems to have good chemistry with Allen , and now he knows the system and players. Yes, but he has a weak, noodle arm. If the pass isn’t a timed one, there’s no chance of a completion. Nice guys don’t cut it at this level and, imo, that’s Barkley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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