BillsFan4 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 https://theathletic.com/1680825/2020/03/17/stefon-diggs-trade-analysis-vikings-take-a-big-swing-now-can-they-make-it-count/ (sub req.) Quote The biggest reason his volume numbers don’t match up with the top receivers in the NFL is that the Vikings simply didn’t give him the same amount of opportunities to accumulate those yards. The Vikings ranked 30th in total passing attempts in 2019. When accounting for the number of receiving routes Diggs actually ran, it turns out he was one of the two most productive receivers in the NFL, and nearly top 10 after penalizing his numbers for issues with fumbles and turnovers — an issue that likely won’t crop up too many times again given his career history. Quote Over the past two years when Cousins threw to Diggs — including the playoffs — he generated 9.31 adjusted yards per attempt, which would have been the highest mark in 2019 of any passer with over 300 passing attempts. When throwing to any other target, he averaged 7.45 adjusted yards per attempt, good for 11th in the NFL in 2019. While high-level receivers can regularly generate those kinds of splits, even with great quarterbacks, it really drives home the point that Diggs drove the offense, especially when Adam Thielen was injured for much of 2019. Diggs does quite a bit. As an excellent route-runner, high-level contested-catch receiver and persistent red zone threat. Replacing that will be difficult, even with a pair of first-round picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 It’s officially Official! Welcome to Buffalo Stefon Diggs! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 21 hours ago, bilzfancy said: Doug Whaley was GM then, Beane has earned my trust in spades. He seems to have a clue, I truly believe the Bills have one of the top 2-3 FO in the league now. Excellent point and I agree wholeheartedly. Still just a tad gunshy I guess even though I've been on the McBeane bandwagon since the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Forget about stats and PFF and stuff...I used him in Madden and he is really good. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 21 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: No fear Sloan, it's going to be all right. Are you a JFK grad? No but my wife is a JFK grad. I graduated from a Mississippi high school named for a Polish general (Kosciusko-they dropped the "z"). What are the odds I'd wind up married to a Polish woman and living in a Polish community? (Rhetorical question since I'm here LOL) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/reports-bills-acquire-wr-stefon-diggs One of the points in this Bills announcement page for it is his contract. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/report-bills-swing-blockbuster-trade-with-vikings-for-wr-stefon-diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 21 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Serious question. What picks bother you and what would you suggest we do we them? Just a bit nervous about giving up 1st round although I fully appreciate Diggs' past accomplishments and his potential for future contributions. I'm glad the Bills got him. As stated elsewhere in this thread I'm still gunshy after the Watkins debacle. 21 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Here’s an upside: given how much money Buffalo is spending on extensions and new contracts, and assuming that they have to pay Allen QB1 money in 2 years, won’t it be kind of fortunate that they don’t have a 1st round pick looking for top-end money 4 years from now? Yes it is! A factor I didn't consider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Is TT a free agent Nope he is the Chargers starting qb.. I feel for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said: Just a bit nervous about giving up 1st round although I fully appreciate Diggs' past accomplishments and his potential for future contributions. I'm glad the Bills got him. As stated elsewhere in this thread I'm still gunshy after the Watkins debacle. I think people get nervous because they look back to the Watkins trade but this really is that. - Diggs is verified good. - Diggs is in his prime - We didnt give up nearly as much Is it a high price tag? Yeah when you consider this was a "WR draft" but BECAUSE it is a WR draft we could also use our 2nd round pick and still get someone good. My 2nd rounder would be Chase Claypool........put that beast on the field along with all this speed.....continue to bring along Knox at TE........ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, John from Riverside said: My 2nd rounder would be Chase Claypool........put that beast on the field along with all this speed.....continue to bring along Knox at TE........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: It’s officially Official! Welcome to Buffalo Stefon Diggs! Well, unofficially official anyway. It says Bills “reportedly” trade for Diggs, “reportedly” giving up some picks. You know, if the reports from media are true... ? Edited March 18, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, SloanBillsFan said: Just a bit nervous about giving up 1st round although I fully appreciate Diggs' past accomplishments and his potential for future contributions. I'm glad the Bills got him. As stated elsewhere in this thread I'm still gunshy after the Watkins debacle. Yes it is! A factor I didn't consider. I think we're getting an elite WR just going into his prime. He seems like a terrific fit all around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? Due to things being closed up because of the Virus things can't be officially carried out very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? they are messing as it can’t be official until physical taken Edited March 18, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 https://www.buffalobills.com/news/10-opinions-on-how-stefon-diggs-can-a-difference-in-buffalo What the national media is saying about Diggs to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Bottom line is Jeudy/Lamb/Ruggs weren’t going to make it to pick #22. Reports out now saying the Bills hated Tee Higgins’ pro day and Shenault’s injury history is terrifying. Based on the standard draft value chart, we traded the equivalent of pick #18 for Diggs who is just 26, on a team-friendly contract for 4 years, and is a proven star and elite route runner in the league. Absolute win for us and another example of Beane’s wizardry. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Bottom line is Jeudy/Lamb/Ruggs weren’t going to make it to pick #22. Reports out now saying the Bills hated Tee Higgins’ pro day and Shenault’s injury history is terrifying. Based on the standard draft value chart, we traded the equivalent of pick #18 for Diggs who is just 26, on a team-friendly contract for 4 years, and is a proven star and elite route runner in the league. Absolute win for us and another example of Beane’s wizardry. Actually the total points (836.6) don't even get you to pick 20 (850) as the 4th rounder next year is equivalent to the Bills' spot in the 5th round this year. Edited March 19, 2020 by Doc 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Actually the total points (836.6) don't even get you to pick 20 (850) as the 4th rounder next year is equivalent to the Bills' spot in the 5th round this year. Thought i heard pick #18 on a podcast but I trust your math. Even better, cheers buddy. You happy with the trade then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Thought i heard pick #18 on a podcast but I trust your math. Even better, cheers buddy. You happy with the trade then? Yeah, they're falsely claiming that the 4th next year is worth a 4th this year. That's not how it works. Yes I'm happy. They need/were going to add another WR and I figured they'd take one in the 1st, despite all the talk of how deep a draft this is and the possibility of getting a stud later. Looking at the latest CBS mock draft, they have 4 WR's going in the top 21 (Jeudy, Ruggs and Lamb in the top-13 and Jefferson at 21), meaning the Bills might only have had a shot at the 5th best WR at 22, but for sure the best it would have been is the 4th. I am also skeptical of their ability to draft WRs, not to mention that with the fewer and fewer practices and especially what will be a truncated off-/pre-season, the rookie WR's won't have enough time to get up to speed, if they ever do. That won't be a problem with/for Diggs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, they're falsely claiming that the 4th next year is worth a 4th this year. That's not how it works. Yes I'm happy. They need/were going to add another WR and I figured they'd take one in the 1st, despite all the talk of how deep a draft this is and the possibility of getting a stud later. Looking at the latest CBS mock draft, they have 4 WR's going in the top 21 (Jeudy, Ruggs and Lamb in the top-13 and Jefferson at 21), meaning the Bills might only have had a shot at the 5th best WR at 22, but for sure the best it would have been is the 4th. I am also skeptical of their ability to draft WRs, not to mention that with the fewer and fewer practices and especially what will be a truncated off-/pre-season, the rookie WR's won't have enough time to get up to speed, if they ever do. That won't be a problem with/for Diggs. Draft is so deep with Receivers they can get a guy in the 2nd/3rd/4th who can make an impact for them. The reason I love this trade for the Bills. Fills an immediate need with a proven player, NOW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Draft is so deep with Receivers they can get a guy in the 2nd/3rd/4th who can make an impact for them. The reason I love this trade for the Bills. Fills an immediate need with a proven player, NOW. Sure but the trick is identifying them. As I said, I’m skeptical of their ability to scout wide receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That's pretty sweet. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. Um you lose a first round pick every time you use it to draft a player. We essentially just drafted a proven stud and top 10 WR with our first round pick in Diggs. Draft pick = 1 player. Instead of drafting an unproven player at same position who statistically odds are won’t ever be as good as Diggs, we drafted an elite proven talented instead in Diggs. So why do you hate “using” our first to get 1 PROVEN player vs using the same first to get 1 unproven rookie at same position who most likely won’t ever be as good as Diggs? Edited March 19, 2020 by Alphadawg7 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I think its important to point out that Buffalo is no longer in the rebuilding mode and some of these low draft picks can no longer make the team. What the Bills need now is impact players and they certainly got one in Diggs. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Um you lose a first round pick every time you use it to draft a player. We essentially just drafted a proven stud and top 10 WR with our first round pick in Diggs. Draft pick = 1 player. Instead of drafting an unproven player at same position who statistically odds are won’t ever be as good as Diggs, we drafted an elite proven talented instead in Diggs. So why do you hate “using” our first to get 1 PROVEN player vs using the same first to get 1 unproven rookie at same position who most likely won’t ever be as good as Diggs? Thanks for pointing this out. I am sure the poster did not know you get a player with a draft pick. Deep insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, mattynh said: Thanks for pointing this out. I am sure the poster did not know you get a player with a draft pick. Deep insight! Well, it did seem pretty witless.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty75 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: I think its important to point out that Buffalo is no longer in the rebuilding mode and some of these low draft picks can no longer make the team. What the Bills need now is impact players and they certainly got one in Diggs. Perfectly said nothing to add ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Looking at the way Diggs goes about his work, I think the guy is Uber-competitive and wants to win. I think he shares that with Allen and thus they should get along great, especially with McDermott's culture and that should take care of the negatives with Diggs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. If he causes trouble, you cut him. He’s got no guaranteed money from the Bills at present. Like how they wanted to do with Brown, but he refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. Typical Buffalo fan afraid of getting elite talent syndrome 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 hours ago, wppete said: Pretty sure that was Tre White on team Diggs there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 How do you guys think Stefon Diggs will match up against Stephon Gilmore’s and Byron Jones’ of the division? Is he good enough to produce against the upper echelon of corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 58 minutes ago, Doc said: If he causes trouble, you cut him. He’s got no guaranteed money from the Bills at present. Like how they wanted to do with Brown, but he refused. Cut a guy we traded a first rounder for? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Typical Buffalo fan afraid of getting elite talent syndrome It's more "well, that team that player for less so why did we have to give up a 1st..." 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: Cut a guy we traded a first rounder for? Yikes! That's obviously worst-case scenario. But all teams have cut/traded 1st round picks, and usually with large guaranteed/dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Allen gave both Brown (over 1000 yards) and Beasley career years at the same time, while ending the season a markedly better QB than he was in the first quarter of it. He will be better next year too. Josh may wind up not being the answer, but Diggs will be incredibly productive either way. Allen will be more consistent getting him the ball than the Vikings offense was Edited March 19, 2020 by arcane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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