JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: And in a deep WR draft, the Bills could easily draft someone later on and that player could develop nicely in a deep WR draft. done developing. time to win playoff games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Even PFF's Sam Monson just said we now have the best WR corps in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Diggs is a crazy head case. Good luck trying to control him McDermott. Least respected guy on the entire Vikings team per the other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: 1st round pick? Couldn't get Hopkins? I don’t know, but guess that was all related to the contracts. Too many dollars equals much less pick compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I guess it is up to Josh to throw it somewhere in his catch radius. Not a slam dunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Lock up Duke for 2 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, buffalobillswin said: I'm sorry in what world was Josh Allen good at the deep ball last year? He was literally one of the worst. 2018 was two years ago. he was better deep as a rook. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I like Diggs and contract is reasonable. But.., When you compare that to the Hopkins deal it makes me the Bills & Texans look really bad, and Cards & Vikes look really good. Bills & Texans would’ve both been better off trading w each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: Those picks become very valuable when you want to move up in earlier rounds to get your guy. Also Beane has shown he can find value in late round picks. I don't mind the trade but let's not act like 4th and 5th rounds picks are worthless. Draft picks are over valued. especially day 3 draft picks. The Bills still have 5th and 6th rd picks this year, fun fact. Diggs is the Bills first round picks this year. Think of it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarrettb Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yeah you don't know football very well. Hopkins is better but Diggs is complete. Great route runner. Great. He is going to want a new deal. Anyone who thinks he is playing on that 4 year 45 mil deal is crazy. They are going to have to renegotiate that. Such an overpay for a number 2. Still no number 1 for Allen to throw to. 6 foot tall receiver, he is Brandin Cooks. Oh well trade the entire draft for Diggs, this will work out well. ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Those picks weren’t making the team 1st for diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: done developing. time to win playoff games. I guess you can't win games and develop players at the same time. Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: Diggs is much more of an intermediate route receiver and that’s where Allen feasts. Diggs can run the entire tree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: and he catches high throws... that will serve him well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Big C said: Even PFF's Sam Monson just said we now have the best WR corps in the NFL. I think he said"Better than Jags" Edited March 17, 2020 by Hardhatharry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Way overpay. Mohammed Sanu went for a 2 last year. I obviously preferred Hopkins like everyone else, but there was no way HOU was making a deal with Buffalo. There was bad blood between Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaines. Not to mention, we gave them all they could handle in the playoffs. It takes two to tango. WR is one of the hardest positions to project in the NFL, and it typically takes receivers about 3yrs, to take form. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, inthebuff said: I'm glad we got him....with the Bills giving so much for Diggs, I wonder if the Houston fandom is going ballistic at what they got for Hopkins. I was thinking that the Texans got royally fleeced on the Hopkins trade, and this trade seems to confirm it. I don't know what the thinking was behind the Houston-Arizona deal but it smells of desperation. The analysts on NFLN all seemed to be perplexed by the reasoning behind it as well. It's like the Texans made a complete 180 degree turn: last year they gave a fortune in picks in order to acquire talent and seemed in "win now" mode, and then at some point last season, they decided that they were going to do a rebuild instead, so they started trading away some of their best players. The Hopkins trade seems a continuation of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They had a giant need and they filled it beautifully No the Cardinals filled their WR need beautifully. This was not beautiful. Not terrible but not beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 As my son reminds me, Diggs didn't like playing with Cousins so will he like playing with a (thus far) lesser accomplished quarterback in Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I get it, just feels like a lot now but if tell myself is Diggs and a 7th for #22, Wyatt Teller and next year's 4th I guess it sounds better. Probably other teams involved too. We’ll never know the details of it but I’m sure there was some good competition for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technobot Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Love the trade. No guarantees in life but I'm very optimistic about the results. There's always an inherent risk with these things but we're getting a proven talent who can make Josh better NOW. It would have been nice to draft "our" guy and groom him from the start but just like nothing says this will work out (or won't spontaneously combust in the Bills' faces), there's no certainty the player drafted in the first round would be as good as Diggs. The 5th and the 6th rounders were fodder given the roster depth this year. I'm all for another crack at the draft lottery but there's no guarantees and certainly no knowing that they could have packaged for a trade up. If the draft is as deep as "they" say, then we can get our WR to groom on day 2. We've got the cap room and assuming the guy isn't a nutbar then we've just added a core piece, the thing we were all clamouring for: that proven #1 receiver. And we didn't wildly overpay like we would have had to for Cooper (assuming he would have even answered the phone). The future is now, shots fired. Beane said (paraphrasing) "we want Josh to succeed and we want him to get paid that next big contract". Well, Josh. Get er done, I'm certain you can get it done. And here I thought patting the Bills FO on the back for a smart/value/roleplayer signing in AJ Klein would be the highlight of FA Day One. Edited March 17, 2020 by technobot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Reks Ryan said: I like Diggs and contract is reasonable. But.., When you compare that to the Hopkins deal it makes me the Bills & Texans look really bad, and Cards & Vikes look really good. Bills & Texans would’ve both been better off trading w each other. STOP COMPARING THIS TO THE TEXANS. The Bills do not look bad. It makes the Texans look worse. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said: As my son reminds me, Diggs didn't like playing with Cousins so will he like playing with a (thus far) lesser accomplished quarterback in Allen? He’s not a tool like Cousins so probably 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Obviously the contract is a plus but what's not to make us believe he won't want to renegotiate after a year or 2? Especially if he posts big numbers. Then that’s a good thing. Would you rather him suck so we can keep him cheaper? Edited March 17, 2020 by CaptnCoke11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, turftoe said: Diggs is a crazy head case. Good luck trying to control him McDermott. Least respected guy on the entire Vikings team per the other players. this is the only thing that concerns me. but he must be process-approved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Wow. Really can't believe this actually happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 All those saying we could have had Hopkins...has anyone thought about maybe Houston didn’t want to trade him in the same conference? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, sodbuster said: Oh my god, thats so much. What’s his contract situation? That is HUGE in determining what his fair trade value is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarrettb Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Deepest wr draft and you trade a ton of picks for a number 2. Sound move. This screams ownership wanting a “big” name. You build through the draft. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, SDS said: I guess it is up to Josh to throw it somewhere in his catch radius. Not a slam dunk. we have no one like this on the roster, which is what I want on a WR. It is entirely up to Josh and I'm scared schitless 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Our new CB Josh Norman on that last one. Lol. Better up that offer to Chris Harris. Edited March 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I completely agree with the Diggs > Cooper take... 100%... ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: and he catches high throws... that will serve him well. Josh is giddy as a schoolboy right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, CSBill said: in the 2nd or 3rd 5th or 6th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Really like the player. Love the contract. Hate the compensation given up but I can live with it. Now find two pass rushers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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