TSNBDSC Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On the last catch. The pats defender was pulling at Knox’s arm before the ball got to him, that used to be considered PI once upon a time... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) I just dropped in to watch this. Edited March 4, 2020 by Binghamton Beast 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Still love the catch and run vs. Cincy. That even got angry run of the week on GMF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Guy is the definition of raw if he ever puts everything together tho watch out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: On the last catch. The pats defender was pulling at Knox’s arm before the ball got to him, that used to be considered PI once upon a time... You did see who the defender plays for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Dawson Knox showed enough in his rookie season that Bills fans should be extremely excited about his potential going forward. He has the speed, contested catch ability, and blocking ability to be a top 5 tight end for the next decade. He obviously needs to work on catching the ball more consistently, but...considering how raw he was, and how many big plays he made as a rookie, the arrow is pointing waaaay up with this kid. When it's all said and done, the Bills' two third round picks last year could end up being the best players of the Bills' entire draft class. 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, GRHater69 said: Still love the catch and run vs. Cincy. That even got angry run of the week on GMF. Not just week. Didn’t it earn GMFB angry run of the year too? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: You did see who the defender plays for, right? I Sure did... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Logic said: Dawson Knox showed enough in his rookie season that Bills fans should be extremely excited about his potential going forward. He has the speed, contested catch ability, and blocking ability to be a top 5 tight end for the next decade. He obviously needs to work on catching the ball more consistently, but...considering how raw he was, and how many big plays he made as a rookie, the arrow is pointing waaaay up with this kid. When it's all said and done, the Bills' two third round picks last year could end up being the best players of the Bills' entire draft class. Yes, but I’m NOT going to lessen my love for Ed. He will be a beast, I’m sure. I’ll just call it a great draft overall! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Some encouraging moments there for Josh, as well. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: On the last catch. The pats defender was pulling at Knox’s arm before the ball got to him, that used to be considered PI once upon a time... Well, it still is, when it's another team doing it. Though I thought Chark in the Ravens game was being pretty handsy before the ball got there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, it still is, when it's another team doing it. Though I thought Chark in the Ravens game was being pretty handsy before the ball got there. Yup, same thing in the WC game in the end zone with Duke, referees are so bloody inconsistent, it’s as if they don’t know what the rules of engagement are, which is likely the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I’m not sure why some TE’s take so long to develop but when they show playmaking ability like Knox you definitely get excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I’m not sure why some TE’s take so long to develop but when they show playmaking ability like Knox you definitely get excited. The thing with Knox is that he really made some jaw-dropping, high degree of difficulty contested catches. Catches where the DB's arm was in between his arms, or in his face, or pulling on one of his arms. He just out-aggressived them for the ball - "angry catch" the same way he had "angry run". Then Knox dropped a bunch of balls that hit him in both hands and with no defender contesting. Maybe Knox needs to visualize a defender's arm in there every time he makes a catch. Only 1/2 joking. 11 hours ago, Warcodered said: I got to return props to Mr. Cody Ford: "I got my QB's back and anything else go down, I'm Here." He takes (sometimes deserved) crap here, but he is also a Bad Bad Man. It always puzzles me why folks pick some players they believe can improve from rookie season, while slamming the door on the chance that others who've also shown flashes. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Don Otreply said: On the last catch. The pats defender was pulling at Knox’s arm before the ball got to him, that used to be considered PI once upon a time... You can see it in super slow motion, but in real time it was probably very hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) I wonder how long the video of his drops would be? Knox will be much better this year. Edited March 4, 2020 by Hardhatharry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It seems to me that it's a mental thing with Knox regarding the drops. The highlight video are all tough/contested catches where he doesn't have time to think, he just reacts. The drops are the ones he's wide open and he's thinking about not dropping it, or moving up field early. If he can just start making the open ones, he's going to be a stud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 If Knox could catch, hed easily be in the discussion as one of the better young TEs. However, there is still a lot of room to grow, and I think its telling the Bills wanted to bring in someone like Olsen to help mentor/groom Knox. e.g. how Gore helped Singletary. That being said, I'd still like to try and upgrade the position. Need a more surehanded target. Allen clearly liked utilizing the TE, just need more consistancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I love me some Dawson Knox. And I agree with the commentator in that he is a Jeremy Shockey type - brute force aggression. and I never understood the “Cody sucks” comments. Do you remember the amount of shade thrown at Dawkins? And now we all have love for him. Ford will be much better this coming season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, TSNBDSC said: Damn he made some great plays, but way too many drops on easy catches in critical situations. I really hope he ups his game next year and learns to catch the easy ones too. The other thing I. noticed and really liked was some really nice ball placement on the throws from Allen. Not easy throws, but placed where only Knox could make a play. Edited March 4, 2020 by BillsRdue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 14 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Guy is the definition of raw if he ever puts everything together tho watch out Agree completely...I hope the drops are just a matter of concentration and maturity, because the kid has some serious skill. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: If Knox could catch, hed easily be in the discussion as one of the better young TEs. However, there is still a lot of room to grow, and I think its telling the Bills wanted to bring in someone like Olsen to help mentor/groom Knox. e.g. how Gore helped Singletary. That being said, I'd still like to try and upgrade the position. Need a more surehanded target. Allen clearly liked utilizing the TE, just need more consistancy. I'm no expert (obviously), but I noticed throughout the season that it looks like Knox's hands are too close together on his drops. Might just need to spread his hands apart an extra inch or 2. Would let the nose of the ball go through the middle and his big paws secure it. With hands too close together, the ball basically hits a "hand wall" and drops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: You can see it in super slow motion, but in real time it was probably very hard to see. I get that, but when the defender is on the receivers arms and not specifically “making a play on the ball” ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I live in Pittsburgh, my 7 year old son saw the Bengals game and has made me watch Knox highlights every week after that. I had to explain that a TE does not always get "highlights" because they also block. He doesn't care, he watches the blocking, etc. He got a Knox jersey for Christmas (that he wears to school. Interestingly, the kid down the street has an Allen jersey, so they coordinate days to wear them). I also went to his school's open house last night. They have an art folder. On the front cover of it.....he colored a Knox jersey. Can't wait to show him this video! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 100% convinced Knox was the Pats* target to replace Gronk. Glad we got him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turk71 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 He has great athleticism but if he drops 20% of his targets again that's a deal breaker. That is just wayyyy too many drops. At this point I don't think the Bills have a single tight end they can fully count on. Hopefully Knox can become that guy but he hasn't shown any consistency yet. This is one of the positions I hope they target in free agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 8:59 AM, BillsRdue said: Damn he made some great plays, but way too many drops on easy catches in critical situations. I really hope he ups his game next year and learns to catch the easy ones too. The other thing I. noticed and really liked was some really nice ball placement on the throws from Allen. Not easy throws, but placed where only Knox could make a play. Yes. Allen highlight films tend to mix in a lot of his spectacular runs. But when I look at a highlight film of Knox, or Brown, or Beasley, what I see is a number of accurate throws placed accurately where only the receiver had a play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Gotta go back to the draft to think about the pick in context: https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/26/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-dawson-knox/ Don’t think I violated any copyright but apologize if I did: After Singletary was selected with the 74th overall pick, Beane watched as two tight ends were chosen -- Texas A&M's Jace Sternberger and San Diego State's Kahale Warring. "There was starting to be a run on tight ends and you're kind of holding your breath and you start looking," Beane said. "Our next pick was 112. He fit the value where we picked him, and we were going 'there's enough teams that still can use tight ends.' We just didn't see any way that he would fall, and the next one that we had ranked was starting to be significantly lower. We just felt this was the time to jump. That was still another position that we wanted to address in this draft." The Bills entered the draft with 10 picks. After Beane's two moves Friday, he has used four of those and has four more to come on the final day of the draft. "Picks to me, I always talk about them as currency and it's kind of where the state of your roster is and what you've done," Beane said. "We came in where we didn't have a lot of positions that we felt we needed to address. So we said, 'let's follow the board, set the board right, don't skew it, and then when the board tells you you need to move up in the Cody Ford sense and again in the Dawson Knox sense, take advantage of those extra picks that you have and try and get those players at either the value you have on the board.' " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo716 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The same people complaining about Knoxs drops are the same people who say Ford sucks He was an extremely raw rookie who made highlight plays and had some rookie moments. He has good hands you saw his catches , he needs to work on concentration Just like Ford needs to work on some things. I re watched the whole season and Ford definitely held his own .. sure there were negative plays but he also manhandled guys and showed great athleticism and Promise 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 7:33 PM, Don Otreply said: On the last catch. The pats defender was pulling at Knox’s arm before the ball got to him, that used to be considered PI once upon a time... Still is, except against NE*.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 He had four of the nicest plays they had all season and one of their best plays ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 No doubt, he needs to hang on to the ball, but this kid has got some skills. I look forward to his progress. He's gonna be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
below Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 This is why the calls for signing Hooper are silly. Knox had some terrible drops but he made some great catches. The issue is in his head not his hands. That's fixable. Rarely do TEs make such an impact in their rookie year. Ertz, Kelce, and Kittle took years to become dominant. Knox has elite talent. Looking forward to year 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 8:22 PM, TheProcess said: Not just week. Didn’t it earn GMFB angry run of the year too? Yes. GMFB selected it Angry Run of the Year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 11:26 AM, Buffalo716 said: The same people complaining about Knoxs drops are the same people who say Ford sucks That's a ridiculous blanket statement and I don't see the correlation. Any receiver who drops 10 catchable balls out of 50 targets has a problem with drops, period. I don't think anyone said he can't get better. I like Knox and think he has potential. I like Ford, that doesn't mean he was a good rt last year but he was just a rookie. Hopefully he improves if that is where they insist on playing him. I happen to believe he is better suited to play guard at this stage but in any case I've never thought or said that he sucks. They were both rookies, I don't know why anyone would expect them to just step in and play like established veterans. Who are these 'same people' you speak of anyway? I'm not one of them and that alone makes your blanket statement false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: That's a ridiculous blanket statement and I don't see the correlation. Any receiver who drops 10 catchable balls out of 50 targets has a problem with drops, period. I don't think anyone said he can't get better. I like Knox and think he has potential. I like Ford, that doesn't mean he was a good rt last year but he was just a rookie. Hopefully he improves if that is where they insist on playing him. I happen to believe he is better suited to play guard at this stage but in any case I've never thought or said that he sucks. They were both rookies, I don't know why anyone would expect them to just step in and play like established veterans. Who are these 'same people' you speak of anyway? I'm not one of them and that alone makes your blanket statement false. Well I don't think I ever quoted you so I don't see how you can take it personally Second there are tons here who have given up on Ford at RT which is ridiculous.. and my correlation was that it's also ridiculous to think Knox has a drops problem He was a rookie who needed time and a good amount of it If he is still dropping balls in a year or 2 I'd say it's a problem Both him and Knox need to develop their skills more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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