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51 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

https://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Houston-Texans-trade-WR-Brandin-Cooks-Rams-15191040.php

 

Texans trade for WR brandin Cooks.

 

Cooks + 2021 4th for pick #57

 

 

 

Bill O'Brien is an idiot. He essentially just traded Hopkins for Cooks and basically moved up 17 spots in the 2nd round. Terrible, terrible trade. 

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7 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Bill O'Brien is an idiot. He essentially just traded Hopkins for Cooks and basically moved up 17 spots in the 2nd round. Terrible, terrible trade. 

This trade wasn't that bad. The Hopkins trade was. This trade is more reasonable.

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3 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

This trade wasn't that bad. The Hopkins trade was. This trade is more reasonable.

 

Cooks had 580 yards last year and has an extensive concussion history. This trade isn't as bad as the Hopkins trade, but it's still bad. And they wouldn't have needed to do it if he hadn't traded Hopkins. They're chasing their tail and getting significantly worse.

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28 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Cooks had 580 yards last year and has an extensive concussion history. This trade isn't as bad as the Hopkins trade, but it's still bad. And they wouldn't have needed to do it if he hadn't traded Hopkins. They're chasing their tail and getting significantly worse.

This trade is a separate matter from the Hopkins trade. 2 years ago, Cooks was traded for a first, then went and had a career best in yards. Before this year, he had 4 straight 1000+ yard, 16 game seasons. For a rough equivalent of an early third, this is a reasonable trade. (Late second for Cooks and a fourth)

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Cooks and Fuller seem to have Injury Bug. I personally would’ve taken one of Reagor/Hamler whoever was available at 57 when my pick came around. But I do see the value in getting a veteran as opposed to a rookie when there might not be an off-season.

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9 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

Cooks and Fuller seem to have Injury Bug. I personally would’ve taken one of Reagor/Hamler whoever was available at 57 when my pick came around. But I do see the value in getting a veteran as opposed to a rookie when there might not be an off-season.

Cooks fits that offense well. Verticals all day. He'll do very well there. Concussions scare me but the draft is still unknown.

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On 4/10/2020 at 4:49 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Cooks fits that offense well. Verticals all day. He'll do very well there. Concussions scare me but the draft is still unknown.

The problem is coverage can take away Fuller or Cooks.  When they need a play who does Watson have?  What Allen had to deal with the last 2 years, Watson will have to do it for the first time.

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Cooks is a very good player. You can’t deny his talent and production. Unfortunately, 4 concussions is nothing to play around with, and had a big impact on him last season. Don’t know what can happen with the next one...

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On 4/11/2020 at 10:30 PM, Codyny13 said:

Cooks is a very good player. You can’t deny his talent and production. Unfortunately, 4 concussions is nothing to play around with, and had a big impact on him last season. Don’t know what can happen with the next one...

Just like the Mitch Morse situation? 

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On 4/11/2020 at 10:30 PM, Codyny13 said:

Cooks is a very good player. You can’t deny his talent and production. Unfortunately, 4 concussions is nothing to play around with, and had a big impact on him last season. Don’t know what can happen with the next one...

I like Cooks a lot but if a guy with that much talent has been traded twice in a matter of two years and I am a GM I probably dont make my team the 3rd in 4.  

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On 4/9/2020 at 11:59 PM, cle23 said:

 

Cooks had 580 yards last year and has an extensive concussion history. This trade isn't as bad as the Hopkins trade, but it's still bad. And they wouldn't have needed to do it if he hadn't traded Hopkins. They're chasing their tail and getting significantly worse.

Yup, and glad to see it. It’s great when other team do the self inflicted wounds thing. 

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On 4/9/2020 at 9:31 PM, Watkins101 said:

This trade is a separate matter from the Hopkins trade. 2 years ago, Cooks was traded for a first, then went and had a career best in yards. Before this year, he had 4 straight 1000+ yard, 16 game seasons. For a rough equivalent of an early third, this is a reasonable trade. (Late second for Cooks and a fourth)

You really have to wonder WHY he was traded

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18 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You really have to wonder WHY [Cooks] was traded

 

I thought it was a salary dump since the Rams are in cap hell with more to come in the next few years.  For example, if they like Goff (a legit question) they'll have to pay him soon.

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24 minutes ago, Ennjay said:

 

I thought it was a salary dump since the Rams are in cap hell with more to come in the next few years.  For example, if they like Goff (a legit question) they'll have to pay him soon.

Didn’t they just sign him last year to a huge deal?

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4 hours ago, TOboy said:

Didn’t they just sign him last year to a huge deal?

You're right, my bad.  It's one of the reasons they're in cap hell.  (See also Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey.)

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8 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

bucs looking to trade oj howard.  this has been a rumor since sometime last year. man that would be a fun for this offense.  but would obviously be at least a second to start

I would wager a 3rd is what they’ll receive during the draft.  Watch the Pats.  They’ll most likely offer some of Brady’s old friends (James White or even Edelman) for him.  

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7 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

 

 

coller thinking saferty anthony harris would be going to cle.  

 

MKC from the Plain Dealer says a source in the Browns' FO called the report "false." 1 word answer.

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13 hours ago, aristocrat said:

bucs looking to trade oj howard.  this has been a rumor since sometime last year. man that would be a fun for this offense.  but would obviously be at least a second to start


A 2nd? For a TE that has never had more than 34 receptions in a season?

 

No. Freakin’. Way.

 

That’s a mere 6 receptions more than Knox had as a rookie playing in a snap share on an offense that attempted 160 fewer passes than TB’s.

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A 2nd? For a TE that has never had more than 34 receptions in a season?

 

No. Freakin’. Way.

 

That’s a mere 6 receptions more than Knox had as a rookie playing in a snap share on an offense that attempted 160 fewer passes than TB’s.

 

yea i actually just looked at his stats and thought they were much better than that.  very average tight end it would seem

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On 4/15/2020 at 3:28 PM, DFT said:

I would wager a 3rd is what they’ll receive during the draft.  Watch the Pats.  They’ll most likely offer some of Brady’s old friends (James White or even Edelman) for him.  

Perfect!!  I got the over on that.  What’s the wager?

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1 hour ago, DFT said:

1 roll of toilet paper (single ply) and a school-sized hand sanitizer.

Not fair!!  I’m out of sanitizer and have been wiping with my hands.  I have lots of good hand soap though!

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Not fair!!  I’m out of sanitizer and have been wiping with my hands.  I have lots of good hand soap though!

Canadian toilet paper (pine cones) are acceptable replacement tender.  Use good judgment though.  Stay sharp; make good decisions.

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3 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:

 

Maybe a fifth? Maybe?

I’d take that wager!  I can’t see him going lower than a 4th when the Pats offered a conditional 3rd last year and the Bucs bawked.  Unless they’re packaging James White or Edelman, I think it’s higher.  Pine cones or single ply...   pick your poison!

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1 minute ago, DFT said:

I’d take that wager!  I can’t see him going lower than a 4th when the Pats offered a conditional 3rd last year and the Bucs bawked.  Unless they’re packaging James White or Edelman, I think it’s higher.  Pine cones or single ply...   pick your poison!

 

I'm not so confident s to accept your wager, lol

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