My sleeper pick round 1

[Buffalo716]

(sorry for weird font I have no clue what happened)

 

(this is not who I think the Bills will take. But if all edge, WR are gone can be a sleeper I would consider)

 

Cesar Ruiz ( Interior lineman Michigan)

 

A non redshirt at a major school on the offensive line is not the norm, but Cesar Ruiz was able to come into UM and give them time right away

 

the #1 center prospect in the country 3 years ago has been nothing but advertised for the wolverines

 

He uses great size with mobility and power and is great at pulling. Has a mean streak and plays through the whistle

 

and has guard /center flexibility for the NFL which our team covets

 

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cesar-ruiz?id=32195255-4941-5291-5447-fa1de6f9c62b

 

Lance Zeirlein report. Compares to James Daniels

 

 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/cesar-ruiz/HRgG1Dhpp7

 

Marino Eric Wood comp

 

i think he's a top 25 player in the draft when all is said and done and in such a deep Wr class we can get a good target like Justin Jefferson round 2 while adding a huge key to the line

 

His linemate Bredeson is a projected top 2 round pick and Kiper calls him the best guard in the draft... I think Ruiz is better 

 

I have always been a big believer of building from the inside out.. on both sides

 

Is this an unorthodox pick? Probably but I'm not picking for the Bills and I see a stud G/C for years. He can even move over when Morse is gone

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo716

[whorlnut]

No. If we go Lineman, it will be a RT IMO. That way they can move Ford inside. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

No. If we go Lineman, it will be a RT IMO. That way they can move Ford inside. 

You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year

 

RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round

 

Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop

 

Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo716

[Bookie Man]

I would not be mad at this. I'm all for monsters in the trenches. Lots of WR depth in this draft. I may actually prefer going that route in rounds 2 or 3.

[Buffalo716]

This is not necessarily who I think the bills will draft

 

But a guy who has great value at our spot and I think will be a stud for a long time and I personally would consider

[Buffalo Junction]

I’m never mad about BPA linemen. 

[Cruiserplayer]

In the 1st?  He’s still a sleeper in the mid 4th.

[Aussie Joe]

Don’t wake him up in Round 1...

[DCbillsfan]

Chad Reuter has this pick for the Bills as well.

[TheBeaneBandit]

If the Bills think Ford will work out at RT I am cool with Ruiz replacing Spain for a couple years then moving in for Morse. Dude is an impact player period.

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said:

In the 1st?  He’s still a sleeper in the mid 4th.

He is probably the #1 or 2 center prospect after all is said and done and can kick to guard something tells me he doenst last that long

 

Again I'm thinking outside the box and adding good lineman are always a good thing

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo716

[ALLEN1QB]

I never heard of him.

[Buffalo716]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cesar-ruiz?id=32195255-4941-5291-5447-fa1de6f9c62b

 

Lance Zeirlein report. Compares to James Daniels

 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/cesar-ruiz/HRgG1Dhpp7

 

Marino Eric Wood comp 

 

I think late first round is a great spot for Interior

 

Again not who I think the Bills will take but I like putting resources into the line. So it would be a sleeper I would consider if all edge and Top WRs were gone

 

 

14 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Chad Reuter has this pick for the Bills as well.

Was not aware of that

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo716

[Cruiserplayer]

https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/player/cesar-ruiz/33809/
hopefully we can get him here.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said:

https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/player/cesar-ruiz/33809/
hopefully we can get him here.

He's alot higher on scouts boards than most mock stuff

 

He is a very good prospect and I doubt he lasts that long. Eric Wood and James Daniels comps would put him in late first 

 

Lots of worse guards have gone in the top 25

 

He isn't a Quintin Nelson prospect but very few are

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo716

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year

 

RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round

 

Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop

 

Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA

On this board you do. SMH.

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Cesar Ruiz ( Interior lineman Michigan)

 

A non redshirt at a major school on the offensive line is not the norm, but Cesar Ruiz was able to come into UM and give them time right away

 

the #1 center prospect in the country 3 years ago has been nothing but advertised for the wolverines

 

He uses great size with mobility and power and is great at pulling. Has a mean streak and plays through the whistle

 

and has guard /center flexibility for the NFL which our team covets

 

i think he's a top 25 player in the draft and in such a deep Wr class we can get a good target like Justin Jefferson round 2 while adding a huge key to the line

 

I have always been a big believer of building from the inside out.. on both sides

Wouldn't hate it.

[1ManRaid]

Why is the OP in odd sized fonts?  Usually happens when you copy and paste.

[Buffalo Junction]

58 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He's alot higher on scouts boards than most mock stuff

 

He is a very good prospect and I doubt he lasts that long. Eric Wood and James Daniels comps would put him in late first 

 

Lots of worse guards have gone in the top 25

 

He isn't a Quintin Nelson prospect but very few are

I’m always a little put off by how fans devalue lineman; interior linemen in particular. A team can have crap at the skill positions and still hit 8 wins or better with 3-4 probowlers on the O line. Nabbing top talent on the interior is particularly valuable in the late 1st where a center or guard is often BPA. Same goes for NT and WLB.... Late first is often where their value shines. 
 

As an aside... I’ve noticed that you’re going through tape on players. I’d be interested in your take on Bryce Hall (CB, UVA). The injury makes me curious, and I’m waiting for combine performance to answer questions. Also interested in your perspective on Lynn Bowden Jr. I love the kid, but the switch to QB mid season throws me for a loop with prospective draft slotting. 

Edited February 24, 2020 by Buffalo Junction

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year

 

RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round

 

Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop

 

Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA

I dunno man.  He’s really slow getting outside.  I don’t trust him.  I believe if we had a good RT in the playoff game we win easily.  He stunk it up.  I wouldn’t bet our season on him becoming a solid RT

 

and regarding Ruiz, rd 2, maybe.  I hope he’s not the pick rd 1.

Edited February 24, 2020 by NewEra

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I dunno man.  He’s really slow getting outside.  I don’t trust him.  I believe if we had a good RT in the playoff game we win easily.  He stunk it up.  I wouldn’t bet our season on him becoming a solid RT

 

and regarding Ruiz, rd 2, maybe.  I hope he’s not the pick rd 1.

I mean we still have Ty and then look at the state of line play across the league. It's terrible, worst in league history

 

RT is not a plug and play position unless you are top end talent. Most are still developing at 27, some develop till 30..  it's a slow developing position

 

That's why lots of teams use waiver wire and FAs because they don't have patience to develop them properly

 

You can work on quickness and technique and he actually showed great quickness in college

 

Dion Dawkins is not that great either and nobody says anything because he works hard and wants to improve.. he is upgradable but it's hard to find good Tackles

 

Ford has upside at the Tackle spot. Kicking him inside would be a waste after 16 games

 

As for Ruiz I don't expect him to be the pick but if the high end skill guys are gone he is a great prospect and a guy I personally would consider at the tail end. Historically where the great interior lineman go. He is a very good athlete, scheme fit, versatile and great at pulling which we do a good amount

 

he is gonna blow up the combine I believe and his tape + measurables will definitely have someone take him sooner than later imo

[John from Riverside]

Who does he replace

 

we are so loaded at iol

[NewEra]

27 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean we still have Ty and then look at the state of line play across the league. It's terrible, worst in league history

 

RT is not a plug and play position unless you are top end talent. Most are still developing at 27, some develop till 30..  it's a slow developing position

 

That's why lots of teams use waiver wire and FAs because they don't have patience to develop them properly

 

You can work on quickness and technique and he actually showed great quickness in college

 

Dion Dawkins is not that great either and nobody says anything because he works hard and wants to improve.. he is upgradable but it's hard to find good Tackles

 

Ford has upside at the Tackle spot. Kicking him inside would be a waste after 16 games

 

As for Ruiz I don't expect him to be the pick but if the high end skill guys are gone he is a great prospect and a guy I personally would consider at the tail end. Historically where the great interior lineman go. He is a very good athlete, scheme fit, versatile and great at pulling which we do a good amount

 

he is gonna blow up the combine I believe and his tape + measurables will definitely have someone take him sooner than later imo

Just because the state of OL around the league is poor doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and surround Josh allen with good OLmen

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Who does he replace

 

we are so loaded at iol

Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few 

 

Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Just because the state of OL around the league is poor doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and surround Josh allen with good OLmen

Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo

 

Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few 

 

Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo

Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo

 

Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is

Just Re-sign Spain then and pick a WR or DE at Pick 22..

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few 

 

Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo

Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo

 

Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is

I’d rather try ford inside and get an entirely new RT.  I can’t count on nsekhe and I hope Beane doesn’t count on the same 1-2 combo as last season.

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Just Re-sign Spain then and pick a WR or DE at Pick 22..

There may be no DE worth the pick or WR depending how it falls ... It's no man's land where the best value looks to be Oline, DB 

 

We may need to move up to grab a WR or End. Staying put would leave us with a host of lineman , DBs , possibly DT

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

There may be no DE worth the pick or WR depending how it falls ... It's no man's land where the best value looks to be Oline, DB 

 

We may need to move up to grab a WR or End. Staying put would leave us with a host of lineman , DBs , possibly DT

I know Ruiz had been mocked to the Bills at 22 but I don’t see it..

 

Please feel free to bump this thread on draft night to rub my nose in it..

 

I will predict now that there is a WR or DE available that they take in the draft at that spot..

 

Other option will be that the pick has been traded away for a DE or WR..

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

I know Ruiz had been mocked to the Bills at 22 but I don’t see it..

 

Please feel free to bump this thread on draft night to rub my nose in it..

 

I will predict now that there is a WR or DE available that they take in the draft at that spot..

 

Other option will be that the pick has been traded away for a DE or WR..

First if you actually read my OP I never said I think the Bills will draft him. I actually said I don't think they will

 

I said if I was GM and the board fell a certain way I would consider this personally

 

And I didn't even know he was mocked to us. I don't pay attention to those

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I have nothing against drafting an elite OG or C in the first round.  Rush the passer and protect the passer.  But not this year.  They need 3 front 7 defenders in the first four rounds of this draft and a WR.  Even if they sign AJ Green, I would still take a WR in the  second round.  

Best case scenario is bring back Spain on an affordable deal, keep Ford at RT, and add youth to the OLB and DE positions.  

[ALF]

From walterfootball

 

 Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan
Height: 6-4. Weight: 319.
Projected 40 Time: 5.29.
Projected Round (2020): 3-5.
2/8/20: Ruiz decided to skip his senior year to enter the 2020 NFL Draft after putting together a quality collegiate career for Michigan. He is a well-balanced blocker in the ground game and in pass protection. Additionally, he has a lot of experience from being a 3-year starter. Ruiz has enough size to also compete at guard as well. To start his NFL career, Ruiz could serve as a game-day backup for both guard spots and center.

[GunnerBill]

He is my #2 center. Tyler Biadasz from Wisconsin is my #1. I think Ruiz will be a solid pro not sure I'd see him as the value at #22 but I am struggling at the moment for a pick I really love at that spot. 

[machine gun kelly]

5 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

Why is the OP in odd sized fonts?  Usually happens when you copy and paste.

newbee move.  I made the same mistake when I was in one of my first posts.  Mostly, because I’m half blind without my glasses.  Buffalo is no newbee, so maybe he lost his cheaters for that morning.  You know I’m kidding 716.  

[DCOrange]

I will never be mad at taking an OL prospect (assuming it’s not a gigantic reach like a guy projected in the 7th), so I’d be fine with Ruiz. 
 

I think we’re at the point where we will be tempted to go in a lot of different directions that the media doesn’t necessary see coming.

 

There will certainly be talented WRs like a Shenault, Jefferson, Aiyuk, Reagor, etc. available at our pick and maybe some worthwhile Edge prospects, but given the depth at WR and the potential that the Edge guys are gone, a more long-term need or secondary need like CB, OL, or safety wouldn’t surprise me. Could even justify a LB depending on how negotiations with Milano are going. 

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year

 

RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round

 

Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop

 

Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA

Oh please.  Brandon Schreff was touted as one of the best OT in the draft and the Redskins moved him to guard after taking him #5 overall.  Marshal Yanda was drafted as a right tackle before switching to guard and he's been to seven pro bowls.  Ford's strengths make him much more suited as a starting guard and I suspect he'll dominate at that position.

[CSBill]

Interesting. But I think it comes down to Spain. Staying or signing?

[ganesh]

8 hours ago, NC Book said:

I would not be mad at this. I'm all for monsters in the trenches. Lots of WR depth in this draft. I may actually prefer going that route in rounds 2 or 3.

Agreed.  OL or DL for in 1st round.   I am hoping we deal with WR in FA.  We need a #1 WR.  

[whorlnut]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year

 

RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round

 

Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop

 

Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA

Ford played almost entirely at guard in college until his senior year. He was one of the best guards in the country. His footwork isn’t quick enough to handle fast edge rushers and that was evident. 
 

There is nothing wrong at all with moving him inside to his best position. By going after a true RT, our line solves two needs with one addition. I don’t see how this is a bad thing. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

I’m all for improving the line, and we need to add a piece somewhere,

either Rt or lg

[billsbackto81]

Round 2 or 3 ?

Round 1 ?

[HOUSE]