BillsMafi$ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 https://overthecap.com/projecting-the-2020-compensatory-picks-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Let me save everyone time: We don't have any for the 11 billionth year in a row. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Uh Oh, he we go. This will get ugly fast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Meh I am ok with it....we have limited spots on this roster at this point anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Meh I am ok with it....we have limited spots on this roster at this point anyway Yea this roster is so good how could we possibly have room? Especially offensively. We are all set with upper echelon talent across the board. Who needs competition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jpsredemption said: Yea this roster is so good how could we possibly have room? Especially offensively. We are all set with upper echelon talent across the board. Who needs competition? JP Do you honestly not expect those holes to be filled with 90 million in cap space and our current draft picks? Look at how many players we ALREADY have under contract....its one of the highest in the league. We are crying over what.....a late round pick maybe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We are not allowed to have comp picks, it’s a rule..... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We're still in the building phase and accumulating talent, so of course we don't have any. 6 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Yea this roster is so good how could we possibly have room? Especially offensively. We are all set with upper echelon talent across the board. Who needs competition? No, you get comp picks when your roster is good (and expensive) and you let talent walk. Our roster isn't to that point yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I'd be willing to bet that the people who complain that we never get compensatory picks are the same people who will be complaining once the Bills stop being active in free agency periods (which is what it will take to start getting comp picks). Grass is always greener on the other side. For what it's worth, I do believe that, as the years go on, Beane will be looking to start collecting comp picks. It's hard to do so during a complete tear-down and rebuild. Now that the rebuilding effort is nearing its latter stages, though, I expect less free agency activity and more comp picks in years to come. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Logic said: I'd be willing to bet that the people who complain that we never get compensatory picks are the same people who will be complaining once the Bills stop being active in free agency periods (which is what it will take to start getting comp picks). Grass is always greener on the other side. For what it's worth, I do believe that, as the years go on, Beane will be looking to start collecting comp picks. It's hard to do so during a complete tear-down and rebuild. Now that the rebuilding effort is nearing its latter stages, though, I expect less free agency activity and more comp picks in years to come. I agree with this....especially when we have to start paying Franchise QB money......our drafts are going to become SUPER important then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Uh Oh, he we go. This will get ugly fast! I'm so done with this team. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, MJS said: We're still in the building phase and accumulating talent, so of course we don't have any. No, you get comp picks when your roster is good (and expensive) and you let talent walk. Our roster isn't to that point yet. Amazing how it seems so hard for people to understand that. They are wanting to shape the roster just to get picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We get a 7th rounder and the Pats are awarded the first overall pick as a comp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Starting early this year with this discussion, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: JP Do you honestly not expect those holes to be filled with 90 million in cap space and our current draft picks? Look at how many players we ALREADY have under contract....its one of the highest in the league. We are crying over what.....a late round pick maybe? Sorry but this makes next to no sense. By your logic, you would we be happy if we were the only team in the NFL that didntpick up a bunch of UDRFA? After all not even draft picks. Of course you would be uspet, you are always looking for diamons ion the later rounds and UDRFA. More competition the better oh and pleayrs do get hurt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: We get a 7th rounder and the Pats are awarded the first overall pick as a comp Actually Virgil, I think the Pats standard award is 2 third rounders, a fourth rounder, & a fifth rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Logic said: I'd be willing to bet that the people who complain that we never get compensatory picks are the same people who will be complaining once the Bills stop being active in free agency periods (which is what it will take to start getting comp picks). Grass is always greener on the other side. For what it's worth, I do believe that, as the years go on, Beane will be looking to start collecting comp picks. It's hard to do so during a complete tear-down and rebuild. Now that the rebuilding effort is nearing its latter stages, though, I expect less free agency activity and more comp picks in years to come. Yeah, this isn’t the part of the rebuild where we could be expected to shed FAs. We purged the roster and built up cap space reserves. We’re spending on FAs for 2 or 3 seasons while this regime’s draft picks are under their rookie deals. In another couple years we (hopefully) will be in a situation where we are shedding FAs that are being replaced by younger/better players. We will earn our Comp picks then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Sorry but this makes next to no sense. By your logic, you would we be happy if we were the only team in the NFL that didntpick up a bunch of UDRFA? After all not even draft picks. Of course you would be uspet, you are always looking for diamons ion the later rounds and UDRFA. More competition the better oh and pleayrs do get hurt as well. Roy, I of course would like more picks (who would not?) What I am trying to say is a. Winning means more to me b. Winning teams (except for the friggen patriots who magically seem to get them every year) tend to sign their own......and therefore dont lose as many players to free agency at least that is the way I see it. We are in EXCELLENT shape roster wise except for a few spots....and Beane has worked the team into shape to easily address them. Edited February 21, 2020 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 You mean no 6th or 7th round pick at the end of the round? We are doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Starting early this year with this discussion, eh? Early? I'd say that this discussion is on par for this board. Things are looking bright though. Teams can place franchise tags on players starting Monday. The NFL Combine starts next week. We're 26 days away from free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Early? I'd say that this discussion is on par for this board. Things are looking bright though. Teams can place franchise tags on players starting Monday. The NFL Combine starts next week. We're 26 days away from free agency. Well in that case, WHY ARE WE STARTING THIS DISCUSSION SO LATE?!? Mods asleep at the wheeeeeeeel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Very few of the comp picks work out. Dak Prescott being the most notable exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Comp picks we don't need no stinking comp picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 When you acquire a gazilllion free agents like the Bills did in 2019, you don’t get Comp Pinks... Although it won’t be as many as last year, We expect Beane to do more FA shopping next month, so they probably won’t be getting any in 2021 either.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Beane and McD blew the comp pick when they let Gilmore walk. They could have had an extra 3rd round pick just by cutting a couple of bums towards the end of the year. They will not be in a position to get a comp pick this year or next. Even if they let J.Phillips and Lawson walk they will sign guys to replace them. It will be very difficult to be net negative when they only have a few guys that will be leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 You could argue that Beane got his comp picks for this year when he traded Teller and Bodine for three picks in the 5th and 6th.. Maybe he does similar this year with perhaps Long and Murphy maybe surplus and get moved on for late round picks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: For what it's worth, I do believe that, as the years go on, Beane will be looking to start collecting comp picks. It's hard to do so during a complete tear-down and rebuild. Now that the rebuilding effort is nearing its latter stages, though, I expect less free agency activity and more comp picks in years to come. It's funny to listen to the fans talk about an issue like this. Does anyone think it's even remotely possible that Beane somehow doesn't know about compensatory picks? Like, he's an NFL GM and somehow he has a blind spot and doesn't understand the concept. In fact, Beane addressed this issue in a press conference after the season ended. He said, in so many words, that he expects to be a comp pick beneficiary in 2021, which is the first year when the roster will be good enough to create in other teams enough interest in the Bills' free agents. I thought his comment was interesting because it sounded like he thought it was a softball question. His answer essentially said "of course I have the comp pick situation under control, next question." 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
below Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Anyone know if we are eligible for a comp pick for Liuget since he joined midseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Jamie Nails said: Let me save everyone time: We don't have any for the 11 billionth year in a row. This is more about how many did the Pats get 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We have improvement in the past some around here wanted to cut starting players so we could get a comp pick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I wish they would just get rid of this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Virgil said: We get a 7th rounder and the Pats are awarded the first overall pick as a comp ....hanging chad??......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I wish they would just get rid of this system. Why? Just because it hasn’t worked much for the Bills in the past few years? Beane is smart enough to play this game... just give him another year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Can't really blame the current front office. Getting compensatory picks requires two things: 1. Having your own free agents sign high dollar contracts with other teams 2. Not really being active in free agency Last year, our crop of free agents were mostly from the Doug Whaley era. So you can't blame Brandon Beane if none of them were good enough to sign big contracts. Even if we weren't active in free agency, it's unlikely we would have gotten comp picks back anyway. It will probably take a few years to completely turn this train around. But I believe we will eventually get to a place where comp picks are common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Can't really blame the current front office. Getting compensatory picks requires two things: 1. Having your own free agents sign high dollar contracts with other teams 2. Not really being active in free agency Last year, our crop of free agents were mostly from the Doug Whaley era. So you can't blame Brandon Beane if none of them were good enough to sign big contracts. Even if we weren't active in free agency, it's unlikely we would have gotten comp picks back anyway. John Miller’s contract would have qualified for a comp pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Well, I guess people would have preferred that the Bills not rebuild their OL and WR and secondary last year via free agency, and instead counted on comp picks this year. That certainly would have been a brilliant strategy. 2 hours ago, Shaw66 said: It's funny to listen to the fans talk about an issue like this. Does anyone think it's even remotely possible that Beane somehow doesn't know about compensatory picks? Like, he's an NFL GM and somehow he has a blind spot and doesn't understand the concept. In fact, Beane addressed this issue in a press conference after the season ended. He said, in so many words, that he expects to be a comp pick beneficiary in 2021, which is the first year when the roster will be good enough to create in other teams enough interest in the Bills' free agents. I thought his comment was interesting because it sounded like he thought it was a softball question. His answer essentially said "of course I have the comp pick situation under control, next question." Thanks for injecting some intelligence to this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Why? Just because it hasn’t worked much for the Bills in the past few years? Beane is smart enough to play this game... just give him another year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Why? Just because it hasn’t worked much for the Bills in the past few years? Beane is smart enough to play this game... just give him another year..... Like the officials it’s just another thing that can become corrupt and abused. I also think it should start in the 5th rd, there are still very good players available at the end of the 3rd rd and the 4th rd of the draft feels like the 5th rd after 20 or so 3rd rd comp picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: Yea this roster is so good how could we possibly have room? Especially offensively. We are all set with upper echelon talent across the board. Who needs competition? Do you understand why it is that we have no comp picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Comp picks were meant to compensate the poor teams that lost players to rich teams. That is not the way the system is working, I still think it should be abolished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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