SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Why the Bills should consider giving Tre'Davious White an extension now https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/34295/why-the-bills-should-consider-giving-tredavious-white-an-extension-now The former first-round pick intercepted a pair of passes on Sunday Night Football and stripped Houston Texans receiver DeAndre Hopkins during the AFC wild-card round. White's performance led to a first-team All-Pro pick. He's now known as a Pro Bowler, top-tier cornerback and cornerstone of Buffalo's defense. He may also be soon known as the highest-paid player at his position. White is entering a pivotal offseason, during which the Bills can decline or exercise his fifth-year option for the 2021 season -- which projects to be worth roughly $10 million, given his draft position. The decision to exercise the option is an easy one for Buffalo; it's essentially a non-negotiable safety net for teams to keep a player at relatively low-cost. ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan93 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Sooner you get the deal done cheaper it will be down the road 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 With a new CBA coming the salary cap is likely going to go through the roof. A record breaking contract now will look like a pittance in 2 years. Part of Beane proving his GM- ing acumen is being able to “ see into the future” and make the prudent decisions now regarding that future. I would sign him now and try to do it at a great but not record breaking level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I’d love to get it done now, but doesn’t the 30% rule that’s in effect due to the CBA expiring pretty much eliminate the ability to do it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: With a new CBA coming the salary cap is likely going to go through the roof. A record breaking contract now will look like a pittance in 2 years. Part of Beane proving his GM- ing acumen is being able to “ see into the future” and make the prudent decisions now regarding that future. I would sign him now and try to do it at a great but not record breaking level. The ONLY way that he agrees to it now is if he’s the highest paid CB ever. I’m totally fine with that. He’s absolutely going to set the market with his next contract. 5 years, $75M with $50M fully guaranteed? That feels like it can get it done 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The ONLY way that he agrees to it now is if he’s the highest paid CB ever. I’m totally fine with that. He’s absolutely going to set the market with his next contract. 5 years, $75M with $50M fully guaranteed? That feels like it can get it done I had him at 5/82/52 FWIW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I had him at 5/82/52 FWIW Wow, that’s stupid. I had him at 5/83/52 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It actually doesn't matter... You give him one now you will need to do it again sooner. It all evens out in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Sorry dude, but a much more interesting thread would be if you could give reasons "Why Tre White should consider signing an Extension now". Signing an extension now is pretty much 100% in the team's favor, and a major detriment to the player outside of a (unlikely) catastrophic career ending injury. Besides the small possibility of such an injury, there is really no reason Tre's camp should consider. And THAT is the major factor into why it isn't happening. So many posts and threads sounding like all that needs to happen is the Bills to make an offer. That's not the way it works. Two to tango and all that. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Why give a big contract to a guy the PFF has ranked as like the 135th best CB in the league? (sarcasm off now) Get it done; you say you want to use the draft to get your team put together then you need to keep the All Pros you draft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Ralph Wilson came to me in a dream last night. He said let Tre play out his contract and then franchise him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Pay him as the top DB? He’s not even in the PFF top 101 players. Bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, Conlan93 said: Sooner you get the deal done cheaper it will be down the road which is why White will probably wait...new CBA, TV contracts...he's get more by waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Sorry dude, but a much more interesting thread would be if you could give reasons "Why Tre White should consider signing an Extension now". Signing an extension now is pretty much 100% in the team's favor, and a major detriment to the player outside of a (unlikely) catastrophic career ending injury. Besides the small possibility of such an injury, there is really no reason Tre's camp should consider. And THAT is the major factor into why it isn't happening. So many posts and threads sounding like all that needs to happen is the Bills to make an offer. That's not the way it works. Two to tango and all that. Good points! There are some reasons that players will want to be extended. Any contract that White signs will pay him significantly more than the fifth year option for that year. As others have pointed out, his new contract will have some significant upfront money and guaranteed money. Don't underestimate the value of having millions of dollars a year or two earlier. The reality of injuries is real. It does not have to be a career ending injury to have a major impact on the future value of a contract. Some players and agents do subscribe to the bird in the bush philosophy to take what is there when it is there. IMHO the chances of an early extension are a long shot, but not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Conlan93 said: Sooner you get the deal done cheaper it will be down the road I think that they should get a deal done on the sooner side but for different reasons. If he's under contract it's less likely that he leaves. As for getting him on the cheap I'm not sure that I agree. If DB salaries take a big jump then I'm sure his agent will call that out and ask for a new deal like so many other players have in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Another benefit to Tre of extending now, is that the next contract will hit sooner, with even bigger numbers. gets a lot guaranteed now, and later. I'd love to get it done now. Guy is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Ralph Wilson came to me in a dream last night. He said let Tre play out his contract and then franchise him. I'm glad I read ALL the threads before saying "I would franchise him for a year once we can, and see where the market stands at that point." I'm going back to the grave now.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I had him at 5/82/52 FWIW I think that we are in the ballpark Also, another prediction as soon as Tre signs that contract he goes from our favorite player to public enemy number 1. Bills fans HATE highly compensated players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that we are in the ballpark Also, another prediction as soon as Tre signs that contract he goes from our favorite player to public enemy number 1. Bills fans HATE highly compensated players. You just know there will be a bunch of posts criticizing him and the contract after his first poor play of 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Philo said: You just know there will be a bunch of posts criticizing him and the contract after his first poor play of 2020 Ha ha, “he mailed it in.” “All that he wanted was a check.” “Now he’s out of shape.” “We should have given that money to Levi Wallace.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It makes sense for him to extend now if the money and years are right. Tre is 25 now and the Bills could technically drag this out so that he wouldn’t get his first big guaranteed contract until he’s 28. That would limit his career earnings as he’d only get one big chunk of cash. By keeping the term to 5 years he could get cash in hand now, injury insurance, and be a FA again at 30 or another extension earlier. That could lead to two large contracts with guaranteed money if he stays healthy and productive. Make no mistake though, if this gets done we’re looking at a market setting contract in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, “he mailed it in.” “All that he wanted was a check.” “Now he’s out of shape.” “We should have given that money to Levi Wallace.” That gave me shivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: With a new CBA coming the salary cap is likely going to go through the roof. A record breaking contract now will look like a pittance in 2 years. Part of Beane proving his GM- ing acumen is being able to “ see into the future” and make the prudent decisions now regarding that future. I would sign him now and try to do it at a great but not record breaking level. You realize that’s a 2 way street right? It’s not just Beane wanting to, it’s Tre and his team being willing too. They know what’s coming with the CBA too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Boy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You realize that’s a 2 way street right? It’s not just Beane wanting to, it’s Tre and his team being willing too. They know what’s coming with the CBA too. I do but some cats actually like where they’re at. Not saying he does or doesn’t and trying to put my Bills bias aside but we have the potential for something special brewing, especially on the Defensive side. I would add that some of us are jaded by the past( Byrd, Peters) and might expect history to repeat itself. Tre doesn’t seem like a complete selfish weeney like those two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: Pay him as the top DB? He’s not even in the PFF top 101 players. Bust. my thinking is pay him now on the cheap before the league catches on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I think he's overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Tre or any player for that matter in this situation would want the money now. One ACL and that contract will look a lot different. This is the “set for life” contract and you don’t risk playing another season and possible injuries if you don’t have to. I would fully expect they will work something out. Tre waiting on the new CBA could be a seriously bad gamble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I do but some cats actually like where they’re at. Not saying he does or doesn’t and trying to put my Bills bias aside but we have the potential for something special brewing, especially on the Defensive side. I would add that some of us are jaded by the past( Byrd, Peters) and might expect history to repeat itself. Tre doesn’t seem like a complete selfish weeney like those two. I agree. Tre seems very level headed too. He's a family man and signing an extension now (if one is offered) will set him and his family up for life. Why take the risk of a few million more down the road. It will be interesting to see how this fleshes out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I do but some cats actually like where they’re at. Not saying he does or doesn’t and trying to put my Bills bias aside but we have the potential for something special brewing, especially on the Defensive side. I would add that some of us are jaded by the past( Byrd, Peters) and might expect history to repeat itself. Tre doesn’t seem like a complete selfish weeney like those two. Cats? Did not know this was a feline thread. Edited February 12, 2020 by ALLEN1QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Ralph Wilson came to me in a dream last night. He said let Tre play out his contract and then franchise him. Yup. Take the 5th year option, franchise hum twice. That's the cheapest way to keep him for 4 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that we are in the ballpark Also, another prediction as soon as Tre signs that contract he goes from our favorite player to public enemy number 1. Bills fans HATE highly compensated players. Yep...I’ll never understand it. The minute Cordy got paid he was PE1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I do but some cats actually like where they’re at. Not saying he does or doesn’t and trying to put my Bills bias aside but we have the potential for something special brewing, especially on the Defensive side. I would add that some of us are jaded by the past( Byrd, Peters) and might expect history to repeat itself. Tre doesn’t seem like a complete selfish weeney like those two. I don’t think either of those guys were selfish. They wanted their market value. We were not giving it to them. They had to go elsewhere to get it. It’s the same in every job. If you aren’t being paid what you are worth you will explore your options and someone else will do that. We’ve all done it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You realize that’s a 2 way street right? It’s not just Beane wanting to, it’s Tre and his team being willing too. They know what’s coming with the CBA too. What's coming with the CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yep...I’ll never understand it. The minute Cordy got paid he was PE1 I really don’t think it’s like that everywhere. It is too a lesser degree but not like us. We legitimately hold it against guys. Mario Williams was a dominant player for a couple of years. There are people on here that have said he is their least favorite Bills player ever. I can’t fathom that!! We’ve had so many bad players!! How can you hate a guy that was a 1st team All-Pro?!? Edited February 12, 2020 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I really don’t think it’s like that everywhere. It is too a lesser degree but not like us. We legitimately hold it against guys. Mario Williams was a dominant player for a couple of years. There are people on here that have said he is their least favorite eBills player ever. I can’t fathom that!! We’ve had so many bad players!! How can you hate a guy that was a 1st team All-Pro?!? OMG remember when folks said that they don’t want Clowney because he might be another Mario Williams? ? Yeah, how dare the guy pop off for 38 sacks and 51 TFLs in his first 3 seasons ? I’d trip over my own man parts (if I were so endowed) sprinting to pay a guy $20M AAV if I could have those numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree. Tre seems very level headed too. He's a family man and signing an extension now (if one is offered) will set him and his family up for life. Why take the risk of a few million more down the road. It will be interesting to see how this fleshes out. Was just about to post the same. Brady took a bunch of team friendly deals . He didn’t need to, of all players ever. He’s got enough money. Someone suggested injuries weren’t a major concern over 2 years as an NFLDB?!?!? Tre has already played hurt, all players do. Guaranteed ? now that is “ Generational changing” is a no brainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I can go either way, but there is an implication of Allen’s deal. Now you can kick the can for one year with the tag for him so three more years, but that 30+ mil contract is coming. If we can sweeten by a higher than normal guarantee, but now you’ve space out the two big contracts coming and some mid level one like Milano. We also if not wrong have Poyer and Hyde in two years, so another to consider to keep the best of this band together. I think it’s a smart move if it can be agreeable to his camp. Guaranteed $ as you know is so important they know for sure they’ve taken care of their families no matter what. Because he’s so young, a five year deal would be optimal. Just stuff to kick around in the drought period of NFL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: I think he's overrated. Shirley you jest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: I think he's overrated. I don’t think he’s the best DB in the league but paying him that way the game is played. Doing it now is prudent in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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