Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: As a lawyer once told me, this is America... you can sue anyone for anything. That’s outrageous, egregious, preposterous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: You are right. There is no need to get upset over blatantly giving the game to the other team. I mean rules are meant to be applied as seen fit. Carry on. more like the dumb fanbase who cant appreciate a playoff team that played its heart out all year and over achieved. You carry on. I am upset about the horrible officiating. But really? A lawsuit because our team lost a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: You carry on. I am upset about the horrible officiating. But really? A lawsuit because our team lost a game? While I do think a lawsuit is a bit extreme... There have been way worse lawsuits in America and it's not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: While I do think a lawsuit is a bit extreme... There have been way worse lawsuits in America and it's not even close Yes, what there needs to be is another lawsuit which has no chance of succeeding because there is not legal basis to claim damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Of course the lawsuit wouldn’t be about money but just to bring attention to the rule that got overlooked and a play clock that had two zeros on it. I would do this just to see the NFL have to comment on it. Either way ratings will drop more and more because this ***** looks rigged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 A couple of things. I don't know about a lawsuit, but Kim should raise holy hell with the league over this. 2 rules were blown on that play. Probably the worst was that they over ruled a TD called on the field without video review. WTF. Just because a team isn't having a good games doesn't mean they deserve to get piled on by the refs Too. Texans weren't having that great of a game either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Topic titles must reflect the content of the topic (and it must contain more than just a name). This helps to reduce the number of duplicate topics and makes the community much more user friendly. Please edit the title so that it properly reflects the discussion that you started. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes, what there needs to be is another lawsuit which has no chance of succeeding because there is not legal basis to claim damage. It could definitely succeed given there was an official rule that was nit implemented 26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I think the nfl admitted it was clear dpi though poll unsure of this honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm not even mad at the play. There's no reason to be. Troll post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I'm a lawyer. If the Saints and their fans couldn't win last year, the Bills and their fans wouldn't win. In theory, to win in court, you have to have a right of some kind that was violated. A constitutional right, a statutory right, a contract right, something. If we have anything as fans, it's a contract right. But what we have is a right to entertainment, not a right to an outcome. We got the entertainment. Intentional infliction of emotional distress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: It could definitely succeed given there was an official rule that was nit implemented unsure of this honestly You can’t sue for damages on a disagreeable call. There are no damages. It’s an entertainment show. It can’t succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The Bills benefitted from a similar call earlier in the season after an Int. I think it was White, just ran around and threw the ball after the interception and they ruled that he gave himself up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Trogdor said: The Bills benefitted from a similar call earlier in the season after an Int. I think it was White, just ran around and threw the ball after the interception and they ruled that he gave himself up. False. Tre went down to the ground completely and made no effort to advance. 26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You can’t sue for damages on a disagreeable call. There are no damages. It’s an entertainment show. It can’t succeed. It’s not a disagreeable call. It’s the actual RULE not being followed. I guarantee you there is a lawyer that would take this case and could at least get a large settlement in mediation out of it before an actual trial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: This thread is more embarrassing than going to the Airport. Why do you continue to bash fans that want to celebrate their team through thick and thin? You sound like a typical bandwagon fan that bails when things dont go well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: False. Tre went down to the ground completely and made no effort to advance. It’s not a disagreeable call. It’s the actual RULE not being followed. I guarantee you there is a lawyer that would take this case and could at least get a large settlement in mediation out of it before an actual trial. I guarantee you that won’t happen because it can’t. ask yourself why no legal action after last years Saints game. Good faith bad calls aren’t grounds for damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: It could definitely succeed given there was an official rule that was nit implemented unsure of this honestly https://larrybrownsports.com/football/nfl-apologize-blown-call-cost-saints/481714 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I guarantee you that won’t happen because it can’t. ask yourself why no legal action after last years Saints game. Good faith bad calls aren’t grounds for damage. You’re probably right that no one will, but as stated previously in this thread. This situation Is definitively different than the Saints screw job. PI is a subjective call whereas this was an actual set in stone rule with no subjectiveness whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 At least the Pats*** lost. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Could the Buffalo Bills or the city of Buffalo, aka its fans, sue the NFL over the kickoff TD that wasn’t a TD? As pointed out it was clearly against the rules in the rule book to overturn the call and they did so anyways. They rewarded for something that was meant to be done rather than what was done. Any lawyers on this site? A bitter and slow Sunday... obviously lol I nominate you to do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I nominate you to do it In... stay tuned Edited January 6, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: You’re probably right that no one will, but as stated previously in this thread. This situation Is definitively different than the Saints screw job. PI is a subjective call whereas this was an actual set in stone rule with no subjectiveness whatsoever. PI has a discrete definition. The no call was an egregious error of applying a discrete rule in a blatant example. But none of this matters. All pro sports history is rife with what fans watching consider awful calls and noncalls. Never has a successful suit been brought. As a fan, you have no right to damages, unless calls are proven corrupt. This would qualify as frivolous in many jurisdictions and you would likely have to pay defendants fees. Human error is part of the game. As a case, this one would make no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I didn't like the ending of a movie I saw recently I think I am going to sue the producer Were you able to place a wager on the movie? this is the biggest problem imo. Refs are literally taking money out of my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: PI has a discrete definition. The no call was an egregious error of applying a discrete rule in a blatant example. But none of this matters. All pro sports history is rife with what fans watching consider awful calls and noncalls. Never has a successful suit been brought. As a fan, you have no right to damages, unless calls are proven corrupt. This would qualify as frivolous in many jurisdictions and you would likely have to pay defendants fees. Human error is part of the game. As a case, this one would make no sense. I appreciate your analysis... honestly, but human error doesn't justify a definitive rule IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Absolutely! And Jackie Chiles is just the kind of lawyer we need to get it done! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Sure why not? A Dolphins fan is suing because of a disappointing season. https://local12.com/news/offbeat/miami-dolphins-fan-sues-team-over-disappointing-season-12-28-2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: I appreciate your analysis... honestly, but human error doesn't justify a definitive rule IMO. Tell it to the judge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m a lawyer. For the answer to this question, please Venmo me a $50,000 retainer. I'm one too (a lawyer, that is). I know you're kidding, but it saddens me that there are many of our colleagues who actually would take someone's money to file a frivolous lawsuit like this. And then issue a press release to get publicity for their firm. Edited January 6, 2020 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Foxx said: ah yes... when something doesn't go your way, sue, sue, sue. the broken American mindset. Yeah, let's gofor back to pistols at 20 paces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 If you called my office with this query I’d wonder if I was getting ‘punked’ and Ashton Kutcher was laughing somewhere in a control room down the hall. That said, as others have already pointed out, if the Saints similarly couldn’t get anywhere with the PI issue, neither would we with this—however, a rules clarification/tweak for NY studio review in future might be in order here, along with a formal league office apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: False. Tre went down to the ground completely and made no effort to advance. It’s not a disagreeable call. It’s the actual RULE not being followed. I guarantee you there is a lawyer that would take this case and could at least get a large settlement in mediation out of it before an actual trial. You think flipping the ball to the ref is any different? Just FYI, if you're trying to advance the ball you don't give it to the ref. It's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 16 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m a lawyer. For the answer to this question, please Venmo me a $50,000 retainer. Like what Kanye had in the video for "through the wire"? (only a joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This (the notion of suing the NFL) is dumb. It is a goddamn GAME. And wanting to call that a fumble/fumble recovery/TD is also dumb. Let common sense prevail, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Not that I actually believe that we would win, but the reasons given why it has no chance don't make sense to me. I respect Shaw and I get the entertainment thing, but I'm not bringing a suit saying what happened ruined my experience. What I'm saying is that I paid to go to a game where there is a rulebook where the refs are obligated to abide by, and they did not. They decided to buck that rule because of "reasons". That to me doesn't seem to be ok, and I would think making someone answer for why a rule was broken is at least a step in putting the league on notice that fans will not tolerate crap like that. Again, not saying anything would come of it, but I think there's more merit to it than the outright dismissal most here believe. 15 minutes ago, Gugny said: This (the notion of suing the NFL) is dumb. It is a goddamn GAME. And wanting to call that a fumble/fumble recovery/TD is also dumb. Let common sense prevail, people. Ok, booger!?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This is America you can sue for anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Trogdor said: You think flipping the ball to the ref is any different? Just FYI, if you're trying to advance the ball you don't give it to the ref. It's the same thing. It is different. He didn’t follow the rules. What Tre did was well within the rules if you read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 All I know is the Bills and their fans are deserved an explanation of why the NFL overturned the proper call on the field and over-ruled their own rule book. If it takes a lawsuit for the NFL to own up, so be it. The blindside block by Ford was just as big of a call. Common sense says that wasn’t a penalty even though the ref correctly threw the flag. Everybody’s busy digesting and blaming our own team for a 2nd half meltdown, but the over-rule of a clearly correct call on the field is complete BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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