oldschoolfootball1963 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 This is really getting stupid to not have a big receiver on the field at the end of games. I’m sure we will get one next year. But you have to use who you got on the roster. I don’t want to hear it from anyone and I will not let it go. Duke Williams is on this roster and he needs to be used. I’m ***** pissed ? 10 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 But...McKenzie is contributing so much! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Ever watch the Falcons Matt Ryan just throws up lollipops to Ridley and Jones that’s pretty much theIr full passing game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Let tell you something Mckenzie is ok but that’s not what we need he’s just like smoke and beasley. whats the point. Why is this coaching staff so stubborn on this issue. We are just pissing these games away at the end 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: Let tell you something Mckenzie is ok but that’s not what we need he’s just like smoke and beasley. whats the point. Why is this coaching staff so stubborn on this issue. We are just pissing these games away at the end Saving him for the playoffs I'm sure... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Easier to blame the coaches than the players we love. So many opportunities in this game and the players failed on both sides of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 we have one his name is Duke Johnson 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Can't argue the OPs point. Another Pat's game we gave away. Tired of this movie. They were so beatable today and just can't make the big play when we need it most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker5673 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Gotta go big talent at wr next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I don’t get it. Weeks past we’re dropping balls and duke is sure handed. Ok that is a fair point. Tonight, what did they need duke for? Allen missed two touchdowns to Knox. Is duke making those catches? Shaquille O’Neal in his prime isn’t making those catches. This game has zero to do with duke, or the receivers. Daboll had some bad calls, Allen missed throws, and the defense played soft and missed tackles. Sorry duke is not the difference between winning and losing today. This team had every chance to win. They did not execute. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I have to believe WR is our first rounder this year. Beane is seeing the same thing we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: Let tell you something Mckenzie is ok but that’s not what we need he’s just like smoke and beasley. whats the point. Why is this coaching staff so stubborn on this issue. We are just pissing these games away at the end Or you could ask why are the fanatics so stubborn on this insisting Williams should be playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t get it. Weeks past we’re dropping balls and duke is sure handed. Ok that is a fair point. Tonight, what did they need duke for? Allen missed two touchdowns to Knox. Is duke making those catches? Shaquille O’Neal in his prime isn’t making those catches. This game has zero to do with duke, or the receivers. Daboll had some bad calls, Allen missed throws, and the defense played soft and missed tackles. Sorry duke is not the difference between winning and losing today. This team had every chance to win. They did not execute. I don't completely agree here. The pass to knox in the endzone that went off his hands I absolutely believe a taller reciever like Duke could've made. I'd even argue that final throw on 4th down couldve possibly been made by a bigger reciever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Steptide said: I don't completely agree here. The pass to knox in the endzone that went off his hands I absolutely believe a taller reciever like Duke could've made. I'd even argue that final throw on 4th down couldve possibly been made by a bigger reciever. Isn’t Knox taller than duke? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Draft.... Watch tape on..,, Denzell Mims WR Baylor Bryan Edwards WR South Carolina Omar Bayless WR Arkansas St Aaron Parker WR Rhode Island just a few WR outside the top 60 in the draft. Can’t wait to see Edwards at the Senior Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Agreed, watching Beasley try to go up for the game tying TD was comical. The defender had a good 2 inches on him. We don't have any receivers that can go vertical and steal the catch. In crunch time you need a player like that. Edited December 22, 2019 by HappyDays 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Steptide said: I don't completely agree here. The pass to knox in the endzone that went off his hands I absolutely believe a taller reciever like Duke could've made. I'd even argue that final throw on 4th down couldve possibly been made by a bigger reciever. I thought the same on the final 4th down play with the smaller Beasley trying so desperately to make a play. The problem is, size doesn’t always equal talent. Some of those contested catches are not just made by big guys, but by big guys with elite talent. Size alone doesn’t make those plays, and it’s tough to find elite big WR’s. With that said, I don’t see any reason not to activate Duke with other guys doing nothing. At least we’d have a chance in those situations. It might have been nice to have him on that final play for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The Duke Hero posts never end .... but I bet y’all trust the process, right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Lee Smith Patrick DiMarco Robert Foster Isaiah McKenzie Andre Roberts Senorise Perry .....all these 6 get activated and they produce nothing to this offense. Yet we have a capable 6-3 redzone threat we sit on the bench picking his nose. When are these dumbass coaches going to figure it out? Even 6-1 Yeldon would be productive? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Dawkins was on the field. He's pretty big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Lee Smith Patrick DiMarco Robert Foster Isaiah McKenzie Andre Roberts Senorise Perry .....all these 6 get activated and they produce nothing to this offense. Yet we have a capable 6-3 redzone threat we sit on the bench picking his nose. When are these dumbass coaches going to figure it out? Even 6-1 Yeldon would be productive? Yes Redzone needs to start being a thought. Size is an issue at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Isn’t Knox taller than duke? You are correct, Duke is 6'3 and knox is 6'4. Still, the argument for a taller reciever is good one Edited December 22, 2019 by Steptide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: You are correct, Duke is 6'3 and knox is 6'4. Still, the argument for a taller reciever is good one I can’t say with a straight face it would hurt to have a bigger guy. But I have said for a few weeks they have Kroft who is no smurf at 6’6, they paid him big money, and refuse to use him. I can’t see how he is not a weapon for the red zone for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Steptide said: You are correct, Duke is 6'3 and knox is 6'4. Still, the argument for a taller reciever is good one Duke doesn’t have butter fingers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I’m not going to go crazy over the Duke stuff, but when multiple games in a year have the statement made of “if only we had a bigger receiver in that spot....”, it’s reasonable to wonder why a guy, who’s probably nothing more than depth, but did everything asked of him, and was productive in his playing time, can’t get on the field. Edited December 22, 2019 by SCBills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 When Duke goes 12--140 and 2 TDs vs the Jets it's going to be so lit in here. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: But...McKenzie is contributing so much! 5 foot nothing....our only 2 receivers are smurfs. Dawson did get open today but Josh only used "trajectory" once on 3 tries to him. McStubborn continues to keep Duke in jail. Brilliant 21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: When Duke goes 12--140 and 2 TDs vs the Jets it's going to be so lit in here. Don't laugh, he probably will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 7:52 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: Ever watch the Falcons Matt Ryan just throws up lollipops to Ridley and Jones that’s pretty much theIr full passing game The 6-9 Falcons? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 5:00 PM, Tesla03 said: we have one his name is Duke Johnson We've had the opportunity against Baltimore & NE to tie the game up inside the 20. And we end up throwing a jump ball to Beasley? At least Duke is rested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 So tired of having several players on the active roster that do nothing. Foster and our fullback can sit. Get Duke Williams active and use him when the situation calls for it. Stop playing around with these games. I’m sick of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I hope they play Duke this week and he balls out so much that they have no choice but to play him in the playoffs. 1 hour ago, Dopey said: The 6-9 Falcons? The 3rd most passing yards in the league Falcons? Although they are only like 13th in points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 9:47 PM, Big Blitz said: When Duke goes 12--140 and 2 TDs vs the Jets it's going to be so lit in here. Great. Then we’ll be starting Barkley in the wild card game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 11:47 PM, Big Blitz said: When Duke goes 12--140 and 2 TDs vs the Jets it's going to be so lit in here. This isn't totally out of the question. Assuming brown and beasley don't play, Duke may be the only reliable reciever out there. Whatd be interesting to see is if knox, croft and Williams all play, how much size makes a difference. Those are three large recievers and I'll be interested to see how much red zone efficiency changes with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 9:56 PM, Best Player Available said: Dawkins was on the field. He's pretty big. I believe OP meant vertical not horizontal.....just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 11:47 PM, Big Blitz said: When Duke goes 12--140 and 2 TDs vs the Jets it's going to be so lit in here. Especially with Barkley throwing for...wait for it...300 YDS. Yeldon's gonna rush for 150 yds and now we have to play all 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) Duke wasn't even the best receiver on his cfl team. 101 incomplete passes to him in his 2 years in Canada. 101! That's a lot of passes left on the field. All we have his a cfl highlight clip of Duke. His teammate has 1 too. Has a lower incomplete % too. 132 attempts to him in 2017 and only 32 incomplete. Duke had 37 incomplete in only 83 attempts! Duke then had 64 incomplete in 2018. Maybe we signed the wrong guy. Edited December 24, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Dopey said: The 6-9 Falcons? Wellp you missed the point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Wellp you missed the point Nope got, it. You missed mine. Ryan has thrown 110 more passes than Josh and Jones/Ridley have 155 rec for 13 tds. Brown/Beasley have 139 rec for 12 tds And the falcons are 6-9. 110 more passes by Josh and the short guys are right there with them, if not past them. Edited December 24, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 8:52 PM, HappyDays said: Agreed, watching Beasley try to go up for the game tying TD was comical. The defender had a good 2 inches on him. We don't have any receivers that can go vertical and steal the catch. In crunch time you need a player like that. It wouldn't have mattered how tall someone was on that throw they weren't going to steal a catch. The ball was under thrown to the end zone because Allen had to throw off his back foot because the line fell apart. Beasley actually jumped higher than the defender and got a hand on the ball. But no one was making that catch with how good of a position the defender had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 7:59 PM, MDH said: Easier to blame the coaches than the players we love. So many opportunities in this game and the players failed on both sides of the ball. This is a really important point. Any coach will tell his players, if you can get your hands on it you better catch it. A ball hits Beasley on the hands, and he drops it. Another hits him in the arm pit, and he drops it. Yet another is “too high”, but it glances off his hands. Hands receivers are more important than size at this point. If a guy catches with his hands, he’s using his body to get his hands in front of the defender. Josh Allen needs guys that can catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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