Wk 14 Postgame Thread Bills lose to Ravens 24-17

[12+83=6]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Well I was at the stadium. Good try though. Another formerly banned poster I am sure.

Banned for what?  Telling the truth?  If folks are banned for making an honest assessment of the game, then I fell sorry for you.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

The offensive line got abused today.

 

Josh still keeps overthrowing the deep ball, and the one time he doesn't Cole drops it.

 

Singletary was great, should have used him a little more.

 

Knox is a Beast when he's not dropping the ball.

 

Many Lawson has been great this year.

 

Not enough targets for Brown and Beasley, not enough over the middle in general, which is our bread and butter.

 

Should have been some designed runs for Allen.

 

We still need more talent on this team, which means next year is our year , so we are ahead of schedule and we are going to the playoffs, so i will take it !! On to Pittsburgh and 3 more wins. Go chiefs!

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

40 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

The good is that the plays were there.  Guys got open deep, guys were open short, and there were runs there.  The bad is that Allen missed the guys deep, guys dropped passes short, and while some runs popped others had guys (Ford) completely missing blocks and leaving guys unblocked on 3rd down.

Agree. When you play elite teams you need elite execution 

[london_bills]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Yeldon and Duke would of help at lease little bit today...........

Wouldnt the same QB who played against Dallas have helped aswell?

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

The part about Beasley always open

 

the part about John brown not winning one one one in the last two minutes against Cleveland or the Ravens

 

The part about needing a big wr 

 

just waiting on your insightful responses 

 

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

The offensive line got abused today.

 

Josh still keeps overthrowing the deep ball, and the one time he doesn't Cole drops it.

 

Singletary was great, should have used him a little more.

 

Knox is a Beast when he's not dropping the ball.

 

Many Lawson has been great this year.

 

Not enough targets for Brown and Beasley, not enough over the middle in general, which is our bread and butter.

 

Should have been some designed runs for Allen.

 

We still need more talent on this team, which means next year is our year , so we are ahead of schedule and we are going to the playoffs, so i will take it !! On to Pittsburgh and 3 more wins. Go chiefs!

 

 

I lol'd at Many Lawson.  How old would that guy be now :).

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, 12+83=6 said:

Banned for what?  Telling the truth?  If folks are banned for making an honest assessment of the game, then I fell sorry for you.

 

How come you NEVER post after a Bills win?

[Bob in STL]

46 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said:

Really hurts to shut down the best offense in the league and sputter the opportunity away

Shut down? Hardly. 

 

The offense clearly got run over by a mean and nasty defense.  

 

Overall I think the Bills gave it a good game, they had a bad first half and still they had a chance to take the game in the end but came up short.  

 

This game highlighted the need for a better LT (move Dawkins to RT) and a true stud WR.  

[Maine-iac]

Mahommes just pulled a Josh Allen.

[whatdrought]

5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Obviously you want to win the game, but the Bills demonstrated today that they belong in the title conversation, taking what for my money is the best team in the league all the way down to the wire.

 

The fact that this game feels like a letdown is evidence of this.  At no time in the last 20+ years would there have been any hope, much less an expectation, that today’s game was winnable.

 

The Bills are no longer the weak sister.  Get used to double digit win seasons, playoff appearances, and challenging for the division and first round byes every season for the next decade.

 

This. 

 

All week its “Ravens are the top team in the league, we don’t stand a chance against the ravens, no way we beat them, Lamar is the mvp, we’re not ready.” 

 

Then, we overcome ourselves, the refs, and the Ravens to come down to one play, and it’s “we’re such garbage. I can’t believe we lost. What a terrible game.”

 

people are #######s, by and large. 

 

We we just gave the Ravens the only competition in the AFC they’ve faced since week 2. 

[Real McClappy]

4 minutes ago, 12+83=6 said:

Banned for what?  Telling the truth?  If folks are banned for making an honest assessment of the game, then I fell sorry for you.

Your assessment of the game is all your agenda rambling only about a QB. It's a silly crusade in all honesty.

If you can't understand how poorly the O-line played which directly affected Allen's play what is there to say? There were also some crucial dropped passes and penalties at the worst possible times. 

 

Yada, yada, yada -> Allen missed some deep or long throws. It happens to every QB in the league.  This was a team loss on O whom tried to climb back to late.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Real McCoy

[MAJBobby]

38 minutes ago, the skycap said:

How much longer MAJ?

It is gonna come off today or tomorrow with the loss. 

[MAJBobby]

Titans win today and we win next week we lock our playoff spot with 2 games to play

[njbuff]

Mahomes may not last this game. He is taking BIG shots.

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, 12+83=6 said:

I do.  I know a poor QB when I see one.  Come see me when you get back from school...

Cool. Then come back when the Bills get a new QB. We’ll be waiting to hear from you. 

[OZBILLS]

1 minute ago, njbuff said:

Mahomes may not last this game. He is taking BIG shots.

Now there is a dude with no O-line!

 

Allen should watch and learn

[WideNine]

17 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

I mean people keep running at Daboll with the pitchforks but here we are talking about missed TD's on deep passes and drops on short passes.  2 plays before the fouth down we had a screen that picked up something like 17 yards called back for a penalty.  I'm not sure Daboll is the one shooting the offense in the foot.

 

The truth is usually in the middle, there were some plays Daboll called that just had little chance of working. That happens, but what I struggle with is when he goes back to the well time and time again when he needs to except that what he drew up on the whiteboard blew up on the field.

 

He also called some really good plays. Early in the second half we were facing a 3rd and less than 5 and he called a great run play to the right and our Guard - yes, #70 Ford, looked outside where there was no one to block, spun in a complete circle, and let the defender that was actually sitting in his inside gap run right by him and destroy the play from behind. A bit early to call him a bust, but he has no right to be on the field right now, and I do not care where he was drafted.

 

I think Ford was pretty brutal this game no matter where they had him, but I will wait for some deeper analysis by better men than I before I say for certain.

Edited December 8, 2019 by WideNine

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Mahomes may not last this game. He is taking BIG shots.

Shots that aren’t allowed on TB. 

[Scott7975]

11 minutes ago, 12+83=6 said:

I don't care about the Ravens offense.  I care about our offense, and it concerns me greatly.

 

Our offense killed Denver and the Cowboys who had very good defenses prior.  Baltimore doesn't let up a lot of scores.  Yes, as a Bills fan I hope we do better.  I don't know how this one game concerns you greatly after the last month that we have had.  The Pats only put up 20.  SF only put up 17.  LA 6.  Hou 7.  I mean we have done as well as anybody since the changes Baltimore has made.

 

If you expected to win the SB this year then be concerned.  I thought we would barely compete this year so they have already blown away my expectations.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Scott7975

[london_bills]

35 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

This is a lose-lose situation in regards to fan 20/20 hindsight.

 

If he throws short of the sticks and Beasley doesn't make it, fans will freak out that he didn't throw to the sticks.

 

If he misses the throw to the sticks, fans will freak out that he missed the underneath guy.

 

The real criticism here is that Brown's route should've been squared off at the sticks to create separation and get the 1st down, not the touchdown.

And so what I think you are saying is Daboll should be modifying the offense in light of Allen's inconsistencies? That the brown throw for the touchdown could of been a. Shorter throw call but more guaranteed? 

[Aireskoi]

Bully teams like the Ravens made me want Trent Williams.  I hope we can build the toughness on O with the talent in FA and the next draft.

 

Good learning game for the youngsters, the Ravens played at a playoff level on defense.  Both teams did.

 

Offense has to find answers for this pressure because it's on film now.

 

Defense continues to impress, not  happy about that blown coverage TD, but they really did a nice job otherwise.

 

 

[dubs]

Tough game for the O. Good learning experience. This team struggles with blitz pressure.  Saw it in all the losses. Expect to see that the rest of the way. 
 

next Sunday night is going to be epic!!!  

[Bigantall]

6 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

The part about Beasley always open

 

the part about John brown not winning one one one in the last two minutes against Cleveland or the Ravens

 

The part about needing a big wr 

 

just waiting on your insightful responses 

First off, you don't know beasley always open,  second, you mention Brown, if Allen possibley throw a catch able ball instead of over throwing receivers maybe we could win so let's not blame it on anyone person.

 

[Jaydee414]

Gentlemen:  I hope any questions/doubts anyone had about the quality of the Bills is silenced. The BUF D did more than others vs LJ.  It is interesting to read all the comments from you guys re the BUF play calling. Our Ravens board was going ballistic with the Ravens calls, also. We saw more garbage/gimmick stuff today than we’ve seen all year from the Ravens. Much of that, I think, was because of the success BUF was having in slowing down LJ. 

We all agree that the BUF OL ought to donate today’s paycheck to Josh Allen’ masseuse and accupuncturist. I said on Sat that I was less than impressed with Ford on the OL. That was Re-enforced today. 

Other random thoughts:
Singletary is a nice back..maybe not a bell-cow, but good. 

Edmunds should be a Pro-Bowl LB for quite a while. Just needs consistency. 
Micah Hyde likes to hit people. 
Ed Oliver has Beast potential. 
Beasley is a PITA for opposing D’s. 
 

Overall, BUF should be proud of what you have in the Bills. Young & talented. Hope for many more years of BUF-BAL showdowns. 
 

Now let’s go root on KC. 
 

[Say When...]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Our offense killed Denver and the Cowboys who had very good defenses prior.  Baltimore doesn't let up a lot of scores.  Yes, as a Bills fan I hope we do better.  I don't know how this one game concerns you greatly after the last month that we have had.  The Pats only put up 20.  SF only put up 17.  LA 6.  Hou 7.  I mean we have done as well as anybody since the changes Baltimore has made.

 

If you expected to win the SB this year then be concerned.  I thought we would barely compete this year so they have already blown away my expectations.

 

12+83=6 is an absolute jag off, don't pay him no mind.

 

[Scott7975]

30 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

They knew that Allen can’t complete the long ball so the just kept blitzing.  The receivers are open but he has not been able to hit them all year.  They should be concerned at OBD

 

That isn't why they just kept blitzing.  They just kept blitzing because that's what they do on defense.  They are almost 50% blitzing on passing downs this season.  Its not just today.

 

PS... long balls aren't the answer to the blitz duh.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Scott7975

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Your assessment of the game is all your agenda rambling only about a QB. It's a silly crusade in all honesty.

If you can't understand how poorly the O-line played which directly affected Allen's play what is there to say? There were also some crucial dropped passes and penalties at the worst possible times. 

 

Yada, yada, yada -> Allen missed some deep or long throws. It happens to every QB in the league.  This was a team loss on O whom tried to climb back to late.

There certainly seems to be a crusade of some posters who just seemingly pop up when the bills lose. It’s kind of funny , and annoying. They are  no where to be found or have nothing to contribute anything of substance when we win or where we need to improve. 

 

Most of us have no problem criticizing our qb, when he’s not playing well.First half he sucked, I had no problem second half with Josh.  But some posters fail to acknowledge  the sum of all parts, yes he needs to make more plays, throws. But when our guys drop balls, oline gets blown up, theirs roles play just as important part to the success or failure each and every down. 

 

To hate on our Josh over and over is just kinda lazy. 

[YoloinOhio]

I’m on to Pitt. 

[Reader]

22 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

2018: Ravens 47, Bills 3

2019: Ravens 24, Bills 17

2020: ?

 

Unless we something beat NE to the one seed, I think 2020 will be a score of 0 to 0 for 0 games ?

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I am not complaining. I'd have loved to have seen them win, but they are not quite there yet. They are close.

However, anytime Josh Allen has a poor game (to me his first quarter was terrible, Daboll did him no favors, and the dropsies of the receivers were painful to watch) he learns from it.  Here's hoping he gets better after this game, too. 

And, I agree with you, first Q Josh and 4th Q Josh were not the same guy. 

 

 

I’m both disappointed and encouraged. Strange combo, but that sums it up. 

 

 

Just WIN next week! I love our leadership and trust they will be ready. ?

[CaptnCoke11]

If Bills offense somewhat showed up today that was a win for sure.  Too many three and outs and that turnover in their own end was the game.  

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, Jaydee414 said:

Gentlemen:  I hope any questions/doubts anyone had about the quality of the Bills is silenced. The BUF D did more than others vs LJ.  It is interesting to read all the comments from you guys re the BUF play calling. Our Ravens board was going ballistic with the Ravens calls, also. We saw more garbage/gimmick stuff today than we’ve seen all year from the Ravens. Much of that, I think, was because of the success BUF was having in slowing down LJ. 

We all agree that the BUF OL ought to donate today’s paycheck to Josh Allen’ masseuse and accupuncturist. I said on Sat that I was less than impressed with Ford on the OL. That was Re-enforced today. 

Other random thoughts:
Singletary is a nice back..maybe not a bell-cow, but good. 

Edmunds should be a Pro-Bowl LB for quite a while. Just needs consistency. 
Micah Hyde likes to hit people. 
Ed Oliver has Beast potential. 
Beasley is a PITA for opposing D’s. 
 

Overall, BUF should be proud of what you have in the Bills. Young & talented. Hope for many more years of BUF-BAL showdowns. 
 

Now let’s go root on KC. 
 

 

Nice take. You’re more positive on what the bills did today then a lot of bills “fans”.

 

You guys played well and are gonna be a handful in the playoffs. That being said, watch out if we see you again cause our QB ain’t giving you another!

 

good game man. Rooting for you to take that #1 seed and run with it!

[Freak-O]

The defense played really well except on that long TD. The offense was awful in the first half and a little better in the second. Allen did not have a good game but his receivers sure didn't give him much help. Several drops that shouldn't happen as well as several throws that were just bad. Flags, flags, flags... Seemed like there were flags on pretty much every play. I hate games like that.

 

We've now lost to the Patriots and the Ravens, two of the best teams this season, in games where we had the ball and could have scored for a win or a draw. That's not that bad. It's not good enough, but this season sure is a step in the right direction. Hopefully Josh keeps improving and start making those longer throws. 

 

It really sucks that had they just played okay in the first they could have won this and silenced all the Ravens hype.

[WideNine]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Some may fault Allen for that last throw, but those are the throws I want to see more of from him; throws to covered receivers where he gives them the chance to make a play on the ball. Allen has really worked hard to protect the ball, but I think it has translated to overthrown balls and an aversion to throwing those 50/50 balls.

I think he will gradually get more comfortable making those throws and we need to get him another weapon that can win more of those too.

 

 

 

[whatdrought]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I’m on to Pitt. 

 

***** Elite!

[billspro]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

It happens, we had lots of calls go our way. 

[CEN-CAL17]

48 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

O-line failed the team today....

 

Offseason has to be all about the O. 

 

RT

Eric Moulds type WR

Starting to think another stud TE paired with Knox.

 

WE can play with anyone with our current D. Shaq Lawson is a must re-sign BTW

This team desperately need a solid #2 RB.... I agree RT #1 priority.

 

I like Geronimo Allison 6’3” 210 with some stretch the field ability on a cheap deal. Focus the draft on OL and defense.

[Maine-iac]

Just now, WideNine said:

 

Some may fault Allen for that last throw, but those are the throws I want to see more of from him; throws to covered receivers where he gives them the chance to make a play on the ball. Allen has really worked hard to protect the ball, but I think it has translated to overthrown balls and an aversion to throwing those 50/50 balls.

I think he will gradually get more comfortable making those throws and we need to get him another weapon that can win more of those too.

 

 

 

The whole if "if ifs and buts were candy and nuts ..........."  Allen could have put it a little more in front of him.  Maybe Brown could have fought more.  Also let's face it, Peters is no slouch.  He's shut down much better recievers than Brown and I'm not knocking Brown when I say that.  Really the penalty a couple plays before turned the heat up on that last drive.  We played a tough team right down to the wire.  No shame in that.

[Scott7975]

27 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:

This... we had 10 days to prepare a gameplan. Ravens #1 blitzing team, and their weakness has been over 5 yards per carry on runs to the outside. 

 

So what is Dabolls script? 5 step drop backs, and slow hand off on almost like a delay. Maybe its just me but a lot of our handoffs looked very slow developing.

 

We only had a couple runs to the outside.... 1 of which Singletary busted for 30-40 yards.

 

Hey how about we have the ball on the half yard line to goal... so we do a DEEP hand off to Gore? to try to run outside? this is so wrong on so many levels.... If its to singletary, I can understand a bit... or if its a quick hitter off center with Gore I am fine with it.... but also maybe just sneak?

 

This is exactly why I don't understand Daboll.  Teams that have an obvious bad weakness, he almost never exploits them.  Why no jet sweeps this week?  Why was Singletary not used more on the type of runs that he busted for gains?  Its like we find something that works and he treats it like a trick play that only works once a game.

[whatdrought]

Just for perspective. The bills went toe to toe with the AFC#1 seed, the week after they beat the NFC#1 seed, who today beat the NFC#2 seed by scoring 1 zillion points. 

 

We may not be Super Bowl favorites, but we’re going to the playoffs, and we’re not going to be an easy out once we get there. Also, we’re winning the next 3. Take it to the bank.