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This kid can single handedly ruin that gameplan! Wow .. I understand this is the NFL but Rare to see a rookie DT be playing at the level Oliver has been playing and starting to think he can consistently dominate  , and that'd be a nightmare for Offenses and add another dimension to an already Elite defense. 

Thinking his rare speed an athleticism is something Lamar wasn't used to in college,  if he can have a repeat performance,  things can get ugly in Buffalo!!!

 

Edit - if you can't see full tweet,  Oliver had 6 tackles,  3 tfl , 2 sacks and 1 FF. Not to far off from last week at Dallas. Kid can be special and a game changer 

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This kid can single handedly ruin that gameplan! Wow .. I understand this is the NFL but Rare to see a rookie DT be playing at the level Oliver has been playing and starting to think he can consistently dominate  , and that'd be a nightmare for Offenses and add another dimension to an already Elite defense. 

Thinking his rare speed an athleticism is something Lamar wasn't used to in college,  if he can have a repeat performance,  things can get ugly in Buffalo!!!

 

Jesus...Jackson had 43 pass attempts and 25 rushes that day?  How many plays total did they run?  Did anyone else touch the ball?  

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I’ve been trying to mention this a lot this week. Shaq, milano, and Edmunds (maybe) have experience against him from his ACC days. His year after the heisman wasn’t too great so maybe they remember how to play him (I think that team didn’t have much talent though). 

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1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

25 rushes for 33 yards???   That’s 2019 Frank Gore-esque

You have to remember that in college ball, sacks are deducted from a QBs rushing yardage as well. And Jackson was sacked some 11.5 times that day. 

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I remember putting $100 on the ML at +950 on that game. Nice hit. In fact I miss Lamar at Louisville because he was such a great fade after he became really well known. That offense literally turned into give it to Lamar. He manufactured everything on every play. Petrino was just awful in how they utilized him. I like the notion that some of our players are familiar with him but take very little away from his time at Louisville.

 

I'm not scared of Lamar. He is having an amazing season, should be the MVP if things hold serve, but he will get figured out. You look at his passing numbers and it's easy to say and he's a great pocket passer. He isn't. His athleticism and the power Greg Romans run game has made two athletic QB's look like great passers, especially in the stat book. Lamar is just the next level of it all and Roman is having a field day. But all of his game and the Baltimore offense is predicated on running and once teams figure out how to neutralize that more Lamar will start looking much more baffled. I don't know when the blue print will come, I just know it will. Hopefully this weekend.   

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Bills need to follow some of this game planning and that is make sure you make somebody other than Jackson beat you.  So be it if they give the the Ball to Ingram make sure you attack Jackson.  Mentioned often that is what Houston did they also blitzed him form various positions a lot.

 

Granted its a college line vs the blitz but you can see the accuracy issues in the game and how the blitzer disregarded the runner to force the ball out of Jacksons hand.

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3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Lamar Jackson: 25 rushes for 33 yards. In college. How is he doing what he's doing now in the NFL? Why can't an NFL team hold him to a statline like this?

Gap integrity Bosa and Anderson for SF were crashing way to hard on Ingram and giving the outside run up.  Been that way most of the year.  I would rather the ball go to Ingram vs leave Jackson one on one.

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23 minutes ago, K-9 said:

You have to remember that in college ball, sacks are deducted from a QBs rushing yardage as well. And Jackson was sacked some 11.5 times that day. 

wait really?  So if a QB takes a 5-step drop and the pocket collapses immediately and he’s sacked, it counts as negative rushing yardage for him?

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Said it in another thread, but EO could very well play a major role defensively in containing a guy like Jackson. EO is EXCEPTIONAL at tracking ball carriers from behind and LJ likes to dance. That gives EO an opportunity to diagnose and aid the LB's in blowing up or containing big runs.

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4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Said it in another thread, but EO could very well play a major role defensively in containing a guy like Jackson. EO is EXCEPTIONAL at tracking ball carriers from behind and LJ likes to dance. That gives EO an opportunity to diagnose and aid the LB's in blowing up or containing big runs.

I agree. Feel he's the most important DL and his quickness up the middle is rare! If he can get consistent pressure,  he can ruin that gameplan.  I feel Shaq is the next important DL. He's excellent versus the run. Can also play DT and when these guys get pressure,  they free up two studs in Edmunds and Milano and our amazing S duo

6 minutes ago, StHustle said:

 

How does Roman know the Bills defense and most the players?

I believe Lawson, Hughes and Lorax were only defenders on roster when Roman was here..Crazy

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2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

 

This kid can single handedly ruin that gameplan! Wow .. I understand this is the NFL but Rare to see a rookie DT be playing at the level Oliver has been playing and starting to think he can consistently dominate  , and that'd be a nightmare for Offenses and add another dimension to an already Elite defense. 

Thinking his rare speed an athleticism is something Lamar wasn't used to in college,  if he can have a repeat performance,  things can get ugly in Buffalo!!!

 

Edit - if you can't see full tweet,  Oliver had 6 tackles,  3 tfl , 2 sacks and 1 FF. Not to far off from last week at Dallas. Kid can be special and a game changer 


Interesting - someone on the Baltimore fab page was saying how they were concerned about the Bills and that Eddie was a key reason why Houston beat Louisville in college.  Let’s hope history repeats itself

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21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This was the game that I was positive I wanted Ed Oliver on my team. As a freshman I thought that he was the best that I’d ever seen (still think that). This game though was a special kind of dominant.

Best you ever seen huh? That makes me excited, I respect your opinion.  I think he can  be a generational talent and so unique in size , speed and athleticism.  He's a bad dude. To have a DT , coming right up the middle dominate consistently makes our defense special.  This kid is a phenomenal talent.  He changed the whole game last week  , 12th game ever , prime time on Thanksgiving,  in his state , he dominated and caused Dallas fits

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47 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Best you ever seen huh? That makes me excited, I respect your opinion.  I think he can  be a generational talent and so unique in size , speed and athleticism.  He's a bad dude. To have a DT , coming right up the middle dominate consistently makes our defense special.  This kid is a phenomenal talent.  He changed the whole game last week  , 12th game ever , prime time on Thanksgiving,  in his state , he dominated and caused Dallas fits

He was legitimately the most dominant freshman that I’ve ever seen (keep in mind I’m too young for Herschel Walker). Adrian Peterson was up there as well but I don’t remember anyone else that I’d have there. He was in the backfield every, single play.
 

We are starting to see his legendary quickness. If he continues to develop like this we may have a star on our hands.

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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He was legitimately the most dominant freshman that I’ve ever seen (keep in mind I’m too young for Herschel Walker). Adrian Peterson was up there as well but I don’t remember anyone else that I’d have there. He was in the backfield every, single play.
 

We are starting to see his legendary quickness. If he continues to develop like this we may have a star on our hands.


We can use his legendary quickness this weekend!

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This was the game that I was positive I wanted Ed Oliver on my team. As a freshman I thought that he was the best that I’d ever seen (still think that). This game though was a special kind of dominant.

I guess the next step in this discussion is where do you line him up to blow up romans game plan.  Are they on their back up center?

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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/jenny-dial-creech/article/Creech-Ravens-Lamar-Jackson-has-history-in-14829735.php

 

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In 2016 — the year he won the Heisman Trophy — Jackson and the No. 5 Louisville Cardinals headed to town for a nationally televised Thursday night game against the University of Houston.

 

And they were shocked by the Cougars, who beat Louisville 36-10 and knocked the Cardinals out of College Football Playoff contention.

UH was up 31-0 by halftime and cruised to the victory. Jackson was sacked 11 times in the loss. He threw for 211 yards and a touchdown and rushed for 33 yards.

Ed Oliver — now of the Buffalo Bills — sacked Jackson twice and recorded three tackles for loss. UH quarterback Greg Ward Jr. — who went undrafted, but landed as a receiver in Philadelphia — threw for 233 yards and two scores in the win.

 

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https://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/article/Heisman-winner-Lamar-Jackson-praises-Ed-Oliver-11219865.php

 

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The University of Houston defense and All-American tackle Ed Oliver left an impression on Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson.

In a question-and-answer with Athlon Sports, the Louisville quarterback said the Cougars were the top defense he faced last season.

Excerpt from the Q&A with Athlon Sports:

 

Athlon Sports: What was the best defense you faced last year?

Jackson: "Houston. No. 10 [Ed Oliver] was nice. I give all credit to him. He's a nice guy. I give credit to their entire defense. They played the whole four quarters. Every game can't go your way. We're going to build from that."

UH sacked Jackson 11 times and held him to 33 rushing yards on 25 carries in a 36-10 win over the third-ranked Cardinals.

 

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14 hours ago, ColeB said:

Roman VS Bills defense.  I think that slightly works to his advantage, knowing the defense and most of its players.

Just because he coached in Buffalo under Rex with different players does not mean he knows the D. Different players. Different system. Different team. Better record. Nope. No advantage for Roman.

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13 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He was legitimately the most dominant freshman that I’ve ever seen (keep in mind I’m too young for Herschel Walker). Adrian Peterson was up there as well but I don’t remember anyone else that I’d have there. He was in the backfield every, single play.
 

We are starting to see his legendary quickness. If he continues to develop like this we may have a star on our hands.

 

 

Sammy Watkins freshman year at Clemson was the best I've seen a true freshman non-RB perform.

 

Definitely the best freshman WR season in NCAA history to that date.

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17 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Jesus...Jackson had 43 pass attempts and 25 rushes that day?  How many plays total did they run?  Did anyone else touch the ball?  

 

...something is drastically wrong...gotta be mistaken identity........some TBD pundits told me "Too Short" is a bust.....now who the hell do I believe??....sleepless conundrum.....

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16 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

I’ve been trying to mention this a lot this week. Shaq, milano, and Edmunds (maybe) have experience against him from his ACC days. His year after the heisman wasn’t too great so maybe they remember how to play him (I think that team didn’t have much talent though). 

His post-Heisman year was actually still pretty impressive. More importantly, he improved his passing skills markedly during that year which has clearly translated to his performance in the NFL.

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