BillsfaninChicago Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Kind of disappointed I didn’t see the picture of Russ Brandon celebrating when we moved up and took him in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I’d rather go land his cousin Austin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Do you work Fridays? Just the illegals he hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Is he being given away? Sure - Id 'take' him. Would i sign him to an expensive lucrative contract? Meh Would Sammy WANT to come back? Gotta think thats a big fat no... but im not him so its sinply speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Nope. They traded him because he was not a fit. I do believe he has matured and moved on but at this point he is busted goods given his health. The talent was there had he put the work in to be an all time great but as others said he cared more about being a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Do you work Fridays? 3 day weekends, every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 2:10 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Do you think it's possible to have an entire team above mediocre? He's not a #1, probably not even a #2 at this point....he would be a #3 WR. The Dude is hurt...like all the time. He's bad. End of story. Pay him to do what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, KGun12TD said: The Dude is hurt...like all the time. He's bad. End of story. Pay him to do what? As I said in an earlier thread, I wouldn't want him but thought it was an interesting topic since he probably will be available. He's going to play somewhere and some team is going to pay him. Not as much as he's making now, it's going to be similar to a Jordan Phillips prove it deal. I'm just saying just because you have mediocre talent in some areas, it doesn't mean you're thinking on a mediocre mentality. You can't have an entire team of high level starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No. The Watkins apologists can't blame Tyrod for his seasons with the Rams and Chiefs. Yes, he is good but he is injured too much. We need a WR that is better than good. Lets draft our own guy and "trust the process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think people are looking at this the wrong way. If Brown is the number 1, and you could certainly argue he is, then Watkins would not have to be anything more than a decent 2. If the money was right I'd certainly bring Watkins in to compete with Foster/McKenzie for the 2 spot with Beasley playing the slot. It will be interesting to see what Watkins is looking to get for his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Maine-iac said: I think people are looking at this the wrong way. If Brown is the number 1, and you could certainly argue he is, then Watkins would not have to be anything more than a decent 2. If the money was right I'd certainly bring Watkins in to compete with Foster/McKenzie for the 2 spot with Beasley playing the slot. It will be interesting to see what Watkins is looking to get for his next contract. I would agree if Watkins had no history with the team and the coaching staff. I think if Wakins is cut he would be a smart acquisition for a team on a one year 4-6 million dollar one year deal with a very low or no guarantee. But Sammy left here in a bad way and alienated himself from the coaching staff is something that would not work well in the locker room and limit the chances of Sammy being successful and makes him a higher possibility for being a net negative. If Sammy had zero experience with this team I wouldn't mind seeing him brought in as a WR2 to play in front of a rookie drafted early. And you would have Brown/Sammy/Rookie drafted in round 1 or 2 playing on the outside while Beasley plays in the slot. Sammy would essentially in that scenario take pressure off of a rookie to come in right away and work as a bridge player while in the short term helping Allan by adding some speed to the team. But you can't have Sammy in that locker room with McD as the coach. Edited December 5, 2019 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 No thanks. He is better off someplace else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Maine-iac said: I think people are looking at this the wrong way. If Brown is the number 1, and you could certainly argue he is, then Watkins would not have to be anything more than a decent 2. If the money was right I'd certainly bring Watkins in to compete with Foster/McKenzie for the 2 spot with Beasley playing the slot. It will be interesting to see what Watkins is looking to get for his next contract. Which raises two important questions. 1) How much do you really want to pay for an inconsistent, injury prone guy to 'compete' for the #2 job (a job he has failed to secure in LA and KC btw)? 2) If you could sign him for what he's worth (very little), how happy do you think he'll be to play for a fraction of what he's being paid now, and having to compete with nobodies just a few years after being the big shot in town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 1:55 PM, Mopreme said: left better receivers on the board One of those was our own John Brown, selected in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 You can't define Sammy by numbers. He's a decoy and attracts so much attention over on the bench that without him Mahomes and Hill wouldn't be able to gain a single yard. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 At this point you could argue that Watkins is Ted Ginn 2.0. I personally would like to think Watkins is more talented but on paper and scheming for them I'd imagine they are rather similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 1:34 PM, wvbillsfan said: Absolutely not. Unimpressed by Watkins and his ability to stay on the field or make a difference. Pure conjecture here but I don’t think he loves football. It’s just what he does. Most people with that just collecting a paycheck attitude don’t fair well. I feel the same. If Robert Woods was available it's a different story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 No. No. I would put him just a 1/2 step ahead of AB on my want list. That guy can’t atay healthy for more than 2 games at a time. His salary pays for 3 decent players! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 There are two separate, but equally crazy things about Sammy: How little he has done, and what he hasnt turned into, given the pedigree with which he came into the NFL How much that dude has gotten PAID. $54M over his career so far. Mostly from the Chiefs. For doing nothing for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Shame on me for even touching this one but I got spanked from a mod for calling like it is. I said that the way he plays lends himself to injury and I defended myself against tons of people on here. I also compared him to Brandon Lafell production wise. Wound up with 2 warning points from it. I have no reason to believe that he could or would benefit our team whatsoever. “I need 10 targets a game”...no thanks bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: There are two separate, but equally crazy things about Sammy: How little he has done, and what he hasnt turned into, given the pedigree with which he came into the NFL How much that dude has gotten PAID. $54M over his career so far. Mostly from the Chiefs. For doing nothing for them. So he’s basically Sam Bradford of WR’s. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So he’s basically Sam Bradford of WR’s. Good comparison. I didn't like the trade at the time. I won't go back on my criticism now. The trade made the Bills worse and it took two years to rebuild the WR group. He just can't stay healthy. He is still young and may have a few good seasons left. However, if Im going to take a chance on a older injured WR Im going with AJ Green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Love Sammy but entirely unreliable. Sad because he's so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The guy was in two of the most prolific offenses of the past 20 years and produced less than Cole Beasley has in our offense. I’d take him as a 3rd or 4th option, but nothing like what he’s getting paid now. McD won that trade. (Except for blowing the pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Good comparison. I didn't like the trade at the time. I won't go back on my criticism now. The trade made the Bills worse and it took two years to rebuild the WR group. He just can't stay healthy. He is still young and may have a few good seasons left. However, if Im going to take a chance on a older injured WR Im going with AJ Green. When healthy, like the 15 games he played with the Rams....only had 39 catches. He’s just not a productive WR. The trade did not make the Bills worse. He was going to command a lot of money to keep. Doesn’t make any sense to pay a guy who is not team first, often injured and not a lot of production. So instead of having him walk for free, we got something for him. It was a good move by Beane. So was getting rid of Dareus, Darby and Ragland. Dareus was an unmotivated player on a $96 million dollar contract who was now one dimensional. Ragland is a part time player. Darby has been inconsistent and the Eagles secondary has been getting torched all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Availability > ability, and in the case of Monsieur Watkins, the former is severely lacking. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Once a WR develops chronic foot issues its over. I like Sammy and really wanted him to pan out. I honestly was pissed when we traded him away. But when you see what has transpired since then you know it was the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Mr. Glass has been paid enough for his potential. Why would we not develop our own WRs that have more of a chance of suiting up each week. Not sure why the Watkins obsession from some folks here. It is not like I did not like the dude, it was that he just could not stay healthy. Edited December 5, 2019 by WideNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Logic said: Check his Twitter timeline. He has some.....interesting beliefs. Nah , im good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 At $14 mill for the year? (Salary plus roster bonus) Nope. That's Allen Robinson - Stefon Diggs money. He's never produced at a level that would make that a sensible investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 1:53 PM, SF Bills Fan said: I think the Bills got rid of him because he wasn't a cultural fit and I doubt that has changed. The Bills are probably only going to entertain getting guys like Beasly and Brown that fit some profile/formula only Beane and McDermott know and are 100% on board with team first. I think the Bills got rid of him because his contract was expiring and they needed draft capital to ensure they got a QB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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