Myles Garrett suspended indefinitely (minimum 2019 season), Pouncy 3 games, Ogunjobi 1 game

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Why do I get the feeling that many of the posters taking this stance would be just as likely to say "Why'd they give up?   They should have fought to the final whistle!" 

 

 

hindsight is really 20/20 here.

[badassgixxer05]

16 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I just did. He actually never kicked. Here is a better video then someone filming their tv. 

 

Its a ridiculous narrative some are trying to drum up, to justify how this great player can snap and really not be that insane.. 

[row_33]

Just now, badassgixxer05 said:

Its a ridiculous narrative some are trying to drum up, to justify how this great player can snap and really not be that insane.. 

 

they are trolls

 

 

[Wayne Arnold]

11 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Because that’s what I wrote, here let me try your take:

 

Rudolph should be strung up and crucified!

 

How did I do?!?

 

It’s just funny seeing the excuses many make for certain players in the league. “His hand was stuck.” Good Lord ?

[Jerry Jabber]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

For what?.... 

 

Attempting to pull off Garrett’s helmet after being late hit/driven into the ground on a throwaway play at the end of the game?

 

You think that warrants a suspension?   That’s an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for sure.... maybe a fine if you’d like.  Suspension though....

 

You sound like the NBA and how they hand out suspensions. 

First off, it's not like Garrett slammed Rudolph to the ground and Rudolph's head bounced off the turf. Was it a late hit, absolutely, but Rudolph overreacted. Second, with how the NFL preaches Player Safety, no helmet-to-helmet hits, worried about concussions, etc..., it would make sense for the NFL to fine and/or suspend players that go after another players head/neck with trying to rip off a helmet.

[Nick the Greek]

Rudolph was by no means innocent in this whole thing. He just got the worst of it (he was the smallest guy, after all).

 

he deserves a game suspension I’d say.
 

 

[billsfan_34]

Rudolph deserves a few games- he didn’t start it all however he kept at it too and deserves a slap also.

[Real McClappy]

21 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I just did. He actually never kicked. Here is a better video then someone filming their tv. 

 

LMAO and you don't see his right foot driving into his groin at 1:25? Or trying to rip his helmet off before that!

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Why do I get the feeling that many of the posters taking this stance would be just as likely to say "Why'd they give up?   They should have fought to the final whistle!" 

 

 

 

When the game is out of reach you do the common sense thing...dont risk injury to one of your players.

 

Or in this case a 3 game suspension to a key player on your OLine.

[Wayne Cubed]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

It’s just funny seeing the excuses many make for certain players in the league. “His hand was stuck.” Good Lord ?

Okay.

[CircleTheWagons99]

Just now, Real McCoy said:

LMAO and you don't see his right foot driving into his groin at 1:25? Or trying to rip his helmet off before that!

I’m not defending anyone. Just stated what the announcers said, and when I watch the replay he was pushing Myles off of him with his foot, not really kicking.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

......and Haley's Comet, sour grapes and all after Browns canned him weighs in......SMH...

 

Todd Haley: Myles Garrett’s behavior falls on Freddie Kitchens

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 15, 2019, 12:09 PM EST

 

Last year, Todd Haley was replaced mid-season as Browns offensive coordinator by Freddie Kitchens. This year, Kitchens is taking some criticism from Haley.

 

Haley said today on SiriusXM NFL Radio that Kitchens deserves scrutiny for the way his player, Myles Garrett, acted at the end of Thursday night’s game.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/15/todd-haley-myles-garretts-behavior-falls-on-freddie-kitchens/#comments

 

[Lurker]

Just now, matter2003 said:

 

When the game is out of reach you do the common sense thing...dont risk injury to one of your players.

 

My point was about the posters who put stuff out there just to pull people's chains...

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said:

Rudolph was by no means innocent in this whole thing. He just got the worst of it (he was the smallest guy, after all).

 

he deserves a game suspension I’d say.
 

 

 

..more to come....NFL got the "heavy lifting" out of the way first.........

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

26 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I just did. He actually never kicked. Here is a better video then someone filming their tv. 

 

age restricted. don't want those young kids learning anything from the nfl thugs.

[Real McClappy]

2 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I’m not defending anyone. Just stated what the announcers said, and when I watch the replay he was pushing Myles off of him with his foot, not really kicking.

IDK man. 

 

Myles suspension is justified in my eyes. Mason is def. no choir boy here either, he fueled the fire here and deserves some discipline. 

 

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Just now, Real McCoy said:

IDK man. 

 

Myles suspension is justified in my eyes. Mason is def. no choir boy here either, he fueled the fire here and deserves some discipline. 

 

 

he will be fined, but suspended I dont know, he can justify his actions because the "kick" came after Myles is trying to rip his helmet off.  At that point he has a right to defend himself considering what came next. 

[Doc]

31 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

This incident was gronk wwe x100. one was a dirty hit, the other was insanity

 

So Gronk didn't go insane when he jumped on Tre's back and threw his metal-casted arm at the back of his head while he was face down on the ground?  LOL, OK.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

7 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

LMAO and you don't see his right foot driving into his groin at 1:25? Or trying to rip his helmet off before that!

He does try and push off Garrett with his foot. This was after Garrett had a hold of his facemask and was pulling it. If a 275 pound man was trying to pick me up by my facemask I'd hit him with a foot to a groin also. Pause the video and go frame by frame, the foot comes second. 

[Franco_92]

10 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Rudolph deserves a few games- he didn’t start it all however he kept at it too and deserves a slap also.

"A few games" for an on-field action would put him up near the top of the list of suspension length due to on-field actions, in NFL HISTORY. His reaction is deserving of a penalty and little more. This is just crazy talk. 

[row_33]

can't wait for the rematch in Steeltown in 2 weeks

 

[Rob's House]

18 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

The guard had him subdued laying on top and Pouncey kicks and punches him while he was defenceless so I think he deserves 3 for that. 

 

I love what Pouncey did. If I were the stealer's owner, and the league would let me, I'd pay him for every game of the suspension.

 

I understand that the league can't allow that kind of retaliation to go unpunished, but when someone does your buddy like that, I fully support you beating his ****ing ass.

[Phils n Bills]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

You say tomato, I say passion fruit.

Lol that actually made me laugh. 
 

I meant it as a joke, said I was a big josh Allen fan and even said it may have been too on the nose for some. Yesterday, I went to the Chris brown thread to find it was littered with nothing but josh Allen. So today, in what seems to be a thread going off the rails a bit, I tried to lighten the mood. 

[GoBills808]

I am going to start working Myles Garrett as a verb into my vocabulary like 'Man, I got totally Myles Garretted this year on my tax returns'

[Real McClappy]

13 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

he will be fined, but suspended I dont know, he can justify his actions because the "kick" came after Myles is trying to rip his helmet off.  At that point he has a right to defend himself considering what came next. 

No, watch your video again. After the late hit around 1:20 mark of your video Mason is trying to rip Garrett's Helmet off. Directly after that, Myles is trying to stand up and Mason drives his right foot/cleat into Myles groin. Myles and Mason are both upright and the  Mason helmet grab and smash by Garrett begins while Mason is coming off the ground. 

 

Bolded is the fuel that drove Myles into rage mode which deserves the suspension he got. To let Mason off with zilch at this point is not justified. A fine means pretty much nothing at this point.  

 

 

Edited November 15, 2019 by Real McCoy

[JMF2006]

2 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

I love what Pouncey did. If I were the stealer's owner, and the league would let me, I'd pay him for every game of the suspension.

 

I understand that the league can't allow that kind of retaliation to go unpunished, but when someone does your buddy like that, I fully support you beating his ****ing ass.

 

I thought Ritchie would be doing that to somebody sometime this year

[Real McClappy]

9 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

He does try and push off Garrett with his foot. This was after Garrett had a hold of his facemask and was pulling it. If a 275 pound man was trying to pick me up by my facemask I'd hit him with a foot to a groin also. Pause the video and go frame by frame, the foot comes second. 

OMG people can't even see a vid with clear eyes. 

 

Mason tries ripping Garrett's helmet off and Forces his foot into groin well before Myles started pulling up on his facemask and eventually ripping the helmet off his head. 

 

What are you people looking at?

Edited November 15, 2019 by Real McCoy

[Rob's House]

1 minute ago, JMF2006 said:

 

I thought Ritchie would be doing that to somebody sometime this year

 

I think Ritchie was on the receiving end of one of these some time back. Wouldn't be surprised if he had it coming.

[JMF2006]

2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

OMG people can't even see a vid with clear eyes. 

 

Mason tries ripping Garrett's helmet off and Forces his foot into groin well before Myles started pulling up on his facemask and eventually ripping the helmet off his head. 

 

What are you people looking at?

 

He had clearly  misplaced his Terrible Towel and was searching Garretts helmet for it

[row_33]

2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

OMG people can't even see a vid with clear eyes. 

 

Mason tries ripping Garrett's helmet off and Forces his foot into groin well before Myles started pulling up on his facemask and eventually ripping the helmet off his head. 

 

What are you people looking at?

 

dude was driving the wrong way on the one-way street toward me

 

so i gunned it and hit him as fast as i could

 

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

No, watch your video again. After the late hit around 1:20 mark of your video Mason is trying to rip Garrett's Helmet off. Directly after that, Myles is trying to stand up and Mason drives his right foot/cleat into Myles groin. Myles and Mason are both upright and the  Mason helmet grab and smash by Garrett begins. 

 

Bolded is the fuel that drove Myles into rage mode which deserves the suspension he got. To let Mason off with zilch at this point is not justified. A fine means pretty much nothing at this point.  

 

 

Again, you are seeing what you want to see to further your agenda.  Pause the video at 1:26, Myles already has a grasp of his face mask and mason is lying on his back, you can see Mason's ankle between the refs legs starting to extend towards Myles groin.  

[row_33]

it was good Mason got up immediately

 

imagine if this had happened to Vince Carter, or it was a WWE chair-shot

 

 

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Myles hand grasping Mason's facemask while he is lying on the ground.

[Watkins90]

1 hour ago, r00tabaga said:

Rudolph skates.......smh

They said in the statement that more could be coming. I doubt he gets away with this scot-free. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

OMG people can't even see a vid with clear eyes. 

 

Mason tries ripping Garrett's helmet off and Forces his foot into groin well before Myles started pulling up on his facemask and eventually ripping the helmet off his head. 

 

What are you people looking at?

Nope. Garrettt clearly had a hold of the facemask and as he started pulling up a foot was placed in his groin. If many are disagreeing with you, are we the problem?

[Franco_92]

3 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Myles hand grasping Mason's facemask while he is lying on the ground.

*Gasp* a penalty

Ban that man for life 

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Very Predictable that the QB that also was involved gets NOTHING.  

I don't know how predictable it was, but it does look like Rudolph is going to escape with no penalty.

Which is ironic, considering he was easily the second most guilty party in the entire incident and can be argued to have started it all.

I think Garrett started it with the way he took Rudolph to the ground after the ball was gone and considering the score and clock.

 

Nonetheless, Rudolph had a major role to play in this whole thing and he gets nothing!?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

They said in the statement that more could be coming. I doubt he gets away with this scot-free. 

Still unclear why he wouldn't have received something right now; his involvement in this whole thing is obvious and really doesn't require further review.

 

I suspect the league doesn't want to leave Pittsburgh without a QB.  Too great a punishment, I guess.

 

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Rudolph should get a large fine in my opinion

 

What he did I don't think is suspendable, just because his actions provoked absolute lunacy from Garrett doesn't mean he should be suspended

 

 

[starrymessenger]

Mason is not beyond reproach IMO .  Think a four game suspension would be appropriate.  

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

I don't know how predictable it was, but it does look like Rudolph is going to escape with no penalty.

Which is ironic, considering he was easily the second most guilty party in the entire incident and can be argued to have started it all.

I think Garrett started it with the way he took Rudolph to the ground after the ball was gone and considering the score and clock.

 

Nonetheless, Rudolph had a major role to play in this whole thing and he gets nothing!?

 

 

He simply reacted to the way he perceived he was brought to the ground late. Then to getting pulled up off the ground by his facemask. Jim Kelly would've done the same thing Mason did or worse if that happened to him.