What kind of place do members want The Stadium Wall to be?

[Lv-Bills]

1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said:

Your post is missing the option, “like it is without posts like these.”

 

 

This.  Couldn't have said this better.

[HOUSE]

I try to help out when I can....

 

 

 

[JoeF]

I want free beer, not free puppies...

 

Love this place just the way it is.

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

 

If you have that many people on ignore, I would have to suspect that you are somewhat closed-minded. And, if that is the case, you're not really going to know it. Nobody actually thinks they are closed-minded. You'll probably put me on ignore now, if I'm not there already.

 

Don't leave out self-criticism! I think the board could use a lot more of that. At least, I know I'm an idiot.

 

I know you’re an idiot too... am I doing this right?

[US Egg]

13 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I try to help out when I can....

 

 

 

Ironically, old guy lost his wallet that day.

[WideNine]

 

I do think some get "critical of the Bills" confused with "annoying mantra of unsupportable opinion". When folks get tired of that approach and tune it out, it is misconstrued as being a site not open to critiquing our team. There are plenty of Bills boards out there that are perfect for just endless bitching, TBD probably less so.

 

The ignore works for the most part if you just can't see eye-to-eye with someone.

 

I only have a very few in that list, and only those because it seemed they either stopped taking their meds at some point or rather than critique the topic, they fell back on what they are better at -  trying to attack me or others personally. I do not have a lot of patience with that. There are a few ranting noobs on it that were either drunk or English was their 3rd language.... I hope that was the case, or Webster would weep.

 

Nothing is perfect, but I keep coming back to TBD because I learn more about the team specifically and the game in general. There are more than a few quality posters here that change my mind, provide quality updates, or point to resources that have changed my opinion. I honestly feel better informed because of the community here.

[Buffalo ill]

 

 

There could be a hot take thread for people to post all their "so and so sucks" garbage.  It's annoying when I'm just trying to get an idea of what play just happened and emo teens (maybe adults?) chain post "Allen sucks!!!!11!"   That contributes nothing to me personally. 

 

We could also have a more productive gameday thread, that acts as a play by play discussion to keep people like me (almost never get to see the games on tv) informed. A description of what happened, such as "Allen held the ball to long and got strip sacked" is infinitely better than 2-3 word boohoo venting posts.

[Rocky Landing]

13 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

I know you’re an idiot too... am I doing this right?

i think so...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said:

I'm not criticizing anyone, and I suspect there are opinions going both ways.  I'd just like to know how most members feel about whether topics and posts critical of the Bills should be allowed here.   I encourage everyone to participate in the poll.

 

This board is not a Democracy, folks.  It's SDS House, run by SDS rules.  Mods do their best to interpret them. 

Occasionally the Big Man wanders by the Mods forum and says "Nope, This way" and Mods say "Understood"

 

See under "Browse" "Guidelines" for the full spiel.  It's dense, like eating a poundcake, and takes some time to unpack, but it's all there.

 

Part of it:

Topics and posts critical of the Bills are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.  It's considered discussion, and why we're here!!

Fans of other teams who come here for football discussion and are reasonably respectful are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.

 

/thread

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, 32ABBA said:

I want it to be a place where people can say whatever they want, and if you decide you don't like interacting with a particular poster, you can set them on "Ignore". 

 

My ignore list is lengthy (I just counted, 56 posters), and I put people on it for a variety of reasons. Perhaps I think they are abusive, or I think they have idiotic posts, or just don't add anything...all these are fine, I just set them on ignore. No problemo!

 

It's not going to be a place where "people can say whatever they want".  So if that's what you want, please look for another venue.

 

Fundamentally, Civility is expected, because when Dude A starts slingin' the insults at Dude B, Dude B tends to return fire, others join in.

Pretty soon the thread is full of AB insults and football convo gets drowned out.

 

The board used to be more self-policed that way.  When it became all at once significantly bigger (after BBMB shut down), that no longer worked quite as well.

 

 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's not going to be a place where "people can say whatever they want".  So if that's what you want, please look for another venue.

 

Fundamentally, Civility is expected, because when Dude A starts slingin' the insults at Dude B, Dude B tends to return fire, others join in.

Pretty soon the thread is full of AB insults and football convo gets drowned out.

 

The board used to be more self-policed that way.  When it became all at once significantly bigger (after BBMB shut down), that no longer worked quite as well.

 

 

I think you forgot how the /thread thing works  ?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, wagon127 said:

The Bills never do anything wrong, so we should always post happy things.

 

@wagon127 meet @mead107

 

@mead107, meat @wagon127

 

I wish you positive sweet thoughts for you both to have a splendid delightful day!

 

5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I think you forgot how the /thread thing works  ?

 

Hell I did.  When I wanna close a thread for reals welp then.

[whatdrought]

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This board is not a Democracy, folks.  It's SDS House, run by SDS rules.  Mods do their best to interpret them. 

Occasionally the Big Man wanders by the Mods forum and says "Nope, This way" and Mods say "Understood"

 

See under "Browse" "Guidelines" for the full spiel.  It's dense, like eating a poundcake, and takes some time to unpack, but it's all there.

 

Part of it:

Topics and posts critical of the Bills are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.  It's considered discussion, and why we're here!!

Fans of other teams who come here for football discussion and are reasonably respectful are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.

 

/thread

 

Is it at least vanilla pound cake, and none of that strawberry crap? I hate that stuff...

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's not going to be a place where "people can say whatever they want".  So if that's what you want, please look for another venue.

 

Fundamentally, Civility is expected, because when Dude A starts slingin' the insults at Dude B, Dude B tends to return fire, others join in.

Pretty soon the thread is full of AB insults and football convo gets drowned out.

 

The board used to be more self-policed that way.  When it became all at once significantly bigger (after BBMB shut down), that no longer worked quite as well.

 

 

and we certainly don't need anymore stuff about AB on here.

[Don Otreply]

I voted yes,  because critiques of the team is no big deal as long as it is substantive in content, not just the endless whiny crap that a small yet vocal group here seem to pride themselves in. It’s a fan site, in which positivity should be the primary line for a fan base. It ain’t that hard to wrap ones head around imo.

 

SDS, and the mods rule the roost, it is what it is, be comfortable with that fact. 

 

 

Go Bills!!!

Edited November 8, 2019 by Don Otreply

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This board is not a Democracy, folks.  It's SDS House, run by SDS rules.  Mods do their best to interpret them. 

Occasionally the Big Man wanders by the Mods forum and says "Nope, This way" and Mods say "Understood"

 

See under "Browse" "Guidelines" for the full spiel.  It's dense, like eating a poundcake, and takes some time to unpack, but it's all there.

 

Part of it:

Topics and posts critical of the Bills are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.  It's considered discussion, and why we're here!!

Fans of other teams who come here for football discussion and are reasonably respectful are allowed here until SDS says otherwise.

 

/thread

 

What?? I hardly know the guy...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

(to someone else) If you have that many people on ignore, I would have to suspect that you are somewhat closed-minded. And, if that is the case, you're not really going to know it. Nobody actually thinks they are closed-minded. You'll probably put me on ignore now, if I'm not there already.

 

I dunno, I think when I got modded, I must have had 40-50 people on Ignore.  I'd been here 10 years, you see.  Even at 3-4 people a year, it adds up.

Probably a lot of 'em had wandered off and weren't too active any more.

 

When modded, I deleted the whole list.

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Is it at least vanilla pound cake, and none of that strawberry crap? I hate that stuff...

 

Is lemon OK?  or that Sprite poundcake common in the south?

 

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

and we certainly don't need anymore stuff about AB on here.

 

??? OMG good one, believe it or don't I did not see that

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

Yep, you're already on there too.

You’re now on mine.

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I dunno, I think when I got modded, I must have had 40-50 people on Ignore.  I'd been here 10 years, you see.  Even at 3-4 people a year, it adds up.

Probably a lot of 'em had wandered off and weren't too active any more.

 

When modded, I deleted the whole list.

Free me.....

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

What?? I hardly know the guy...

 

And he's probably OK with that

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

if i could have one wish it would be new threads during the game. up-to-the-second reactionary "i told you so" threads that just can't be contained in the game day thread. 

 

You can start new threads during the game, they just can't be game-day discussion

If you want to start a thread about how we should sign AJ Green in FA during the game or something, Go For It.

 

 

[LB3]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

46 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

 

 

There could be a hot take thread for people to post all their "so and so sucks" garbage.  It's annoying when I'm just trying to get an idea of what play just happened and emo teens (maybe adults?) chain post "Allen sucks!!!!11!"   That contributes nothing to me personally. 

 

We could also have a more productive gameday thread, that acts as a play by play discussion to keep people like me (almost never get to see the games on tv) informed. A description of what happened, such as "Allen held the ball to long and got strip sacked" is infinitely better than 2-3 word boohoo venting posts.

 

I think what you're looking for here could be better supplied by listening to radio play by play or following the play-by-play as it happens on NFL.com.  Bills Mafia on Facebook has coverage.  I believe I've reddit the games may be available elsewhere.

 

If someone wants to try play by play'ing,  I'm willing to float the idea with the other Mods and see if they're down with it (PM me whoever is That Person)

 

But I kind of don't see the point of trying to duplicate what is already available.

 

19 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

You’re now on mine.

 

Wait, a Mod can have an Ignore list?  Dammit Chand why didn't none of you tell me?

[djp14150]

Can peop,e get status demotions?

[Rocky Landing]

10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Wait, a Mod can have an Ignore list?  Dammit Chand why didn't none of you tell me?

I don't think he can see your post.

[nedboy7]

This is sooooo dumb. 

[BillsfaninChicago]

Having lived through the message board version of the Cultural Revolution during the “In Marv We Trust” era of 2006-2008 on the old BBMB, I really appreciate a place like TBD where you can speak your mind and not have it become WWIII if someone else disagrees with you.

[whatdrought]

57 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I dunno, I think when I got modded, I must have had 40-50 people on Ignore.  I'd been here 10 years, you see.  Even at 3-4 people a year, it adds up.

Probably a lot of 'em had wandered off and weren't too active any more.

 

When modded, I deleted the whole list.

 

Is lemon OK?  or that Sprite poundcake common in the south?

 

 

??? OMG good one, believe it or don't I did not see that

 

Its gross. Honestly, vanilla pound cake is the best and it isn’t that great (at least the store bought stuff)... the problem is, once you start eating it, you can’t stop yourself...

[Wilton Bills]

I enjoy responding, sometimes rather sarcasticly, to posts I feel strongly about and have been cautioned about. I believe that as long as we are not offensive, anything goes. If I post an opinion I fully expect to have a face full of any comment thrown at me. Go Bills and let's go keep having fun on this forum!

[whatdrought]

3 hours ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

I want a thumbs down button, dammit! 

 

Agreed. It isn’t enough to verbally shame idiots, I want a tangible demonstration.

 

3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Oh, ? you!!!

 

?

 

Beat me to it...

 

3 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

This place has an ignore feature ? ... Why didn't anybody tell me that ?

 

Anyway, I've never even thought of using an ignore thing because I want to hear all sides, whether they're intelligent, Humorous or just plain bizarre. Why limit peoples opinions ?

 

To each their own I guess.

 

We were too busy ignoring you to tell you about it...

 

[mead107]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

@wagon127 meet @mead107

 

@mead107, meat @wagon127

 

I wish you positive sweet thoughts for you both to have a splendid delightful day!

 

 

Hell I did.  When I wanna close a thread for reals welp then.

Thank you so much for showing me the love and kindness that needs to be spread to all TBD members.  It’s amazing how awesome, wonderful, and joyous being kind and considerate to others can be so fulfilling.  
 

thank you for all you do.  ❤️❤️??

[LSHMEAB]

This is where I come to air all my grievances with the team. Kind of like a "family" of sorts.

 

I'm not gonna put any of it out there to non Bills fans. Only I can talk (blank) about my brother type of deal.

[stuvian]

Mostly I want 2BD to be a place where people don't ask me stupid questions 

[Gugny]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

There seems to be a growing trend lately.  More and more users are crying foul, saying they're being "censored," because they're being critical of the Bills.

 

No ... that's not why you're being censored.

 

You're being censored because you're creating unnecessary new threads.  You're being censored because you're being argumentative.  You're being censored because you're being disrespectful.

 

And when you get called out on those things, you immediately say, "you just don't like me because I'm not a homer."

 

It's BS.  And it's easy to see.  This trend, as I see it, is happening with a lot of newer users who are creating accounts for the sole purpose of bashing the Bills every chance they get.  That's not what this place needs.

 

There are lots of things about the Bills that can be criticized, from top to bottom.  Those criticisms, as long as I've been here, have never been silenced.  A-holes are silenced.

 

So the obvious choice is YES, but there's a lot more to it, in my opinion.

 

@eanyills, you seem to be befuddled by my sentiment.  Do you care to explain?

[Freddie's Dead]

First Amendment and all that, what?  Unfortunately, too many on the board get into ad hominem attacks on each other, instead of discussing football, which is what we're supposed to be doing here.  I try not to partake, but sometimes ya just gotta smackdown the trolls.  

 

[dayman]

A solid stadium wall would be mostly critical IMO. If I can't B word about the Bills I don't really need an internet forum...

[Augie]

2 hours ago, JoeF said:

I want free beer, not free puppies...

 

Love this place just the way it is.

 

Why can’t we have free beer AND puppies?  What kind of Grinch are you???

 

 

. 

1 hour ago, djp14150 said:

Can peop,e get status demotions?

 

I think they call them.......vacations. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Augie

[MJS]

If we take away the criticisms, who would I argue with?

[Virgil]

I’ve thought about this a lot.  I’m glad someone had the courage to create this thread because only one of pure bravado, intelligence could do so.  
 

I’m going to take my best shot....

 

Strawberries wear shorts that are too long for the warm winter nights.  When you look into someone’s eyes and smell their Tuesday, then you know carpets can’t dry with ketchup.  
 

Fire cramps bottle openers from a newborn baby. 
 

I challenge anyone to find a more logical representation.  
 

 

 

Oh yeah, and Epstein didn’t kill himself. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Virgil

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

I’ve thought about this a lot.  I’m glad someone had the courage to create this thread because only one of pure bravado, intelligence could do so.  
 

I’m going to take my best shot....

 

Strawberries wear shorts that are too long for the warm winter nights.  When you look into someone’s eyes and smell their Tuesday, then you know carpets can’t dry with ketchup.  
 

Fire cramps bottle openers from a newborn baby. 
 

I challenge anyone to find a more logical representation.  
 

 

 

Oh yeah, and Epstein didn’t kill himself. 

 

I love you, man.