SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is a shocker. to some yes. see above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: So begins the incoming “fluff up the new guy so the game is watchable”. The guy was taken in the 4th round and hasn’t taken a regular season NFL snap. If Jared Goff is 200lbs, Ryan Finley is 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, DCofNC said: He's a massive upgrade over Josh right now. Allen has been a borderline Joke this year, not saying he can't get better, but he's been bad. You have no idea what you’re talking about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Enquire away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: If I'm the Bears I would be on the phone right now trying to get him. He wasn't the problem in Cincy and is being pushed aside because they have given up on the season. Replacing Trubisky has to be a priority for them unless they plan on throwing another season away. Include him in the deal to Cincy to help them take over the #1 spot in the tank race...... Are we in that different of a situation than the Bears? I guess you gotta give Allen the rest of the year, but I’d absolutely go after Dalton in the off-season if Allen doesn’t progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. Broncos, Bears, Buccaneers bound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 "Bridge QB" or "good game manager" fits him well. So many "haters" have called Allen a bust from day one. My own concern, is that he becomes a guy on Dalton's level, or Stafford's, Flacco's. etc.: quite good but not great. Good enough you don't want to get rid of him, but not great enough for the higher level games. I'm not saying that's what will happen! Just that it's my concern. Josh is already a better QB we've had for years and years. You have to go back to Beldsoe & Flutie. And he's still learning! Bengals are dumb IF they don't have another option already though. KC could change from Alex Smith as they had Mahomes. The Panthers and Jaguars now see they have another option at QB. Do the Bengals have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: to some yes. see above You're thinking of another shocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yeah, there's a guy on this board who would take him just for that, because he'd rather see a Bills QB throw for over 300 yards than a Bills win. Da Bears have to take a look. To be fair, if the Bills offence could have a game where the QB could put up 300 yards, they wouldn't have to squeak out wins and have 4th quarter comebacks against the league's bottom feeders...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. Broncos, Bears, Buccaneers bound. They are out tanking the Dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 i guess they're chasing the dolphins for that 1st pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: "Bridge QB" or "good game manager" fits him well. So many "haters" have called Allen a bust from day one. My own concern, is that he becomes a guy on Dalton's level, or Stafford's, Flacco's. etc.: quite good but not great. Good enough you don't want to get rid of him, but not great enough for the higher level games. I'm not saying that's what will happen! Just that it's my concern. Josh is already a better QB we've had for years and years. You have to go back to Beldsoe & Flutie. And he's still learning! Bengals are dumb IF they don't have another option already though. KC could change from Alex Smith as they had Mahomes. The Panthers and Jaguars now see they have another option at QB. Do the Bengals have one? Allen is too physically gifted to ever end up a game manager. It’s all or nothing with him. If he cuts down on the turnovers and learns to play winning football he’s a top 5 QB. If he continues the soul crushing turnovers and doesn’t learn to move the chains, he’s out of the League after a stint with the Raiders. Edited October 29, 2019 by BuffaloRebound 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 So the A.J Green fantasy bench stash was pointless all season... damn it! lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Do you have a link or are you saying that this is so because Dalton got benched? Asking because I'm not sure Dalton's status necessarily triggers anything else. They were already winless before this announcement. Sounds like he is going to the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, wppete said: They want to see what Finley can do. could be they seee the Dolphins playing hard and the race to bottom is not over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Funny how long it takes these organizations to realize Quarterback X isn't good enough. How many years did Cinci waste spinning wheels with Dalton and Mavin Lewis before this? How many years did Miami kill waiting for Tannehill to get good? How many years will the Bills waste waiting for Josh Allen to be less "raw" and "gain experience"? We'll find out I guess! I agree, that’s why when one drops to you, you take him. Like what the Pats did with Jimmy G. There should be constant competition at every position, especially at QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, zevo said: I was actually going to make this exact reply as a joke....sadly this dude is serious. 5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: You have no idea what you’re talking about. The first step to recovery is realizing you have a problem. Denial is not a River boys. 4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: To be fair, if the Bills offence could have a game where the QB could put up 300 yards, they wouldn't have to squeak out wins and have 4th quarter comebacks against the league's bottom feeders...... Now there's some common sense. How could any one not want the last QB to get the Bills into the Playoffs? Finally, we could have him on our roster, that would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He threw for 329 vs the Rams on Sunday John Elway is on the phone right now !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: could be they seee the Dolphins playing hard and the race to bottom is not over More like they saw the Dolphins let Pittsburgh walk into the end zone on 3rd and 22 after running out to a 14-3 lead. They realize they gotta up the ante in the race to the bottom. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: i guess they're chasing the dolphins for that 1st pick And Fitz is perfect for that. Fans love his grit and galvanizing play. But he’ll still lock up the loss when it matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, teef said: It hasn’t even been 2 full years yet. We all know he needs improvement, but just settle down. Didn't you know that you find out all you need to know about a QB after 17 career starts? It's the precise amount of games where you'll be able to definitively ascertain that the player is exactly what he is, cannot improve, cannot progress, and must be kicked to the curb in order to start all over again with someone else. Sheesh man, thought you knew this with your fancy toof degree and everything. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: "Bridge QB" or "good game manager" fits him well. So many "haters" have called Allen a bust from day one. My own concern, is that he becomes a guy on Dalton's level, or Stafford's, Flacco's. etc.: quite good but not great. Good enough you don't want to get rid of him, but not great enough for the higher level games. I'm not saying that's what will happen! Just that it's my concern. Josh is already a better QB we've had for years and years. You have to go back to Beldsoe & Flutie. And he's still learning! Bengals are dumb IF they don't have another option already though. KC could change from Alex Smith as they had Mahomes. The Panthers and Jaguars now see they have another option at QB. Do the Bengals have one? Josh Allen is not regarded as a better QB than Andy Dalton by ANYONE outside of delusional Bills fans. Right now, Josh Allen is a bottom 5 starter in this league. There's a distinct difference between potential and reality and that seems to be a lost concept to a lot of you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: They are out tanking the Dolphins I think so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Andy has thrown 115 more passes than Josh Allen this season. Both have 9 TDs and Dalton has 1 more INT. Honestly, if Allen throws 0 TDs and 1 int in his next 115 passes I hope he's benched too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yeah, there's a guy on this board who would take him just for that, because he'd rather see a Bills QB throw for over 300 yards than a Bills win. Da Bears have to take a look. See below thread. Once you can throw for 300 yards , you join an elite club ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Finley is never going to be the answer. My suspicion is that they're eyeing Miami and noticing that that Fitz might actually gut out a win or two for the Phins (Fitz did it for the 0-8 Bills in 2010, after all). At 0-8, they have a chance to get the inside track on getting #1, and they don't want to miss that chance. Either that, or they're sending up a clear smoke signal that if a talented team with a hole at QB wants to send them a pick today, they are manning the phones. Or maybe they're already talking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Not this is a tank job..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. The answer to this is "yes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Funny how long it takes these organizations to realize Quarterback X isn't good enough. How many years did Cinci waste spinning wheels with Dalton and Mavin Lewis before this? How many years did Miami kill waiting for Tannehill to get good? How many years will the Bills waste waiting for Josh Allen to be less "raw" and "gain experience"? We'll find out I guess! I love how you put “gain experience” in quotes, as if there’s another way to do it aside from waiting. “Gain immediate and absolute experience in 1.5 years” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Either that, or they're sending up a clear smoke signal that if a talented team with a hole at QB wants to send them a pick today, they are manning the phones. Or maybe they're already talking. The Bengals don't have a GM. I'd be shocked if anyone was even there to pick up the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I was late to the party and brought another Elway joke... Edited October 29, 2019 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. Broncos, Bears, Buccaneers bound. Tick tick tick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Not this is a tank job..... It's a mother tiger eating her young (old) to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Sounds like he is going to the Saints. Doubt it. The Saints have Teddy Bridgewater, who did a great job in Brees' absence, waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Josh Allen is not regarded as a better QB than Andy Dalton by ANYONE outside of delusional Bills fans. Right now, Josh Allen is a bottom 5 starter in this league. There's a distinct difference between potential and reality and that seems to be a lost concept to a lot of you. I guess this is my nomination for Unintended Irony of the Week. The potential is that Allen just made his 18th start; the reality is that he's regarded as a raw young QB with a high ceiling who has shown improvement and has yet to show where that ceiling is. The reality is that Andy Dalton is a 9 year vet with 128 starts and he's not going to get any better from this point on; in fact, without a true #1 WR target he'll arguably get worse. Very very few young QBs in this league can match up every week with a veteran QB, because savvy and experience can make ground on high energy and a big arm. That's why 15 year journeymen like Fitzy can still have jobs. 4 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: The Bengals don't have a GM. I'd be shocked if anyone was even there to pick up the phone. They have someone in the building who responds to AJ Green trade queries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Doubt it. The Saints have Teddy Bridgewater, who did a great job in Brees' absence, waiting in the wings. Not Dalton. AJ Green. When something like this gets written somebody is trying to make something happen. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/10/28/a-j-green-new-orleans-saints-bengals-may-trade-deadline-per-cbs/2493043001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 If I am Buffalo, I actually consider this move in the offseason to improve the QB room. This isn't a bad football team, but it isn't very good either. Next year we will need better QB play to win 10+ games. Allen will either be good enough by then, or we will be talking about drafting a new one in 2021. Dalton could be a good insurance policy for 2020. 2020 Opponents: MIA x2 NYJ x2 NE x2 DEN KC OAK ARI LAC LAR SF SEA PIT (if the season ended today) HOU (if the season ended today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He is not the problem there. He's part of it. Dalton has had some really good teams and has never been able to get it done. He's not awful, but he's not the answer either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Not Dalton. AJ Green. When something like this gets written somebody is trying to make something happen. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/10/28/a-j-green-new-orleans-saints-bengals-may-trade-deadline-per-cbs/2493043001/ Ah, I see. Well if the Saints are interested in an injured 31 WR, so be it. The article also states the Bengals are listening for offers for Cordy Glenn, who I could see gets moved before AJ Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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