YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, GG said: That contrasts with Spotrac that has a $25mil dead cap That was tweeted by Spotrac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Personally I would be all over this. He's a game changer I could see the bills doing this trade Actually. Beane won't give up a first though and so that's what the jets would want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, london_bills said: I could see the bills doing this trade Actually. Beane won't give up a first though and so that's what the jets would want I think the Bills would have interest but even the Jests aren’t dumb enough to trade in the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, london_bills said: I could see the bills doing this trade Actually. Beane won't give up a first though and so that's what the jets would want They will be lucky to get a late third or fourth for him. Six months ago, he was available as a free agent, for zero compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was tweeted by Spotrac It contradicts what their website says, plus the trade needs to be structured as post 6/1/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Dead cap is if you cut him. Different ramifications if you trade. Team trading for him assumes the guarantees for unpaid money. If jets cut him, they are in hook for unpaid guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'd rather have Bell than Gordon but we don't even use our full complement of RBs now. Yeldon is inactive half the time and Singletary never touches the ball. I get that special teams are important but there's a point when it starts limiting your offense. That's why Perry plays and Yeldon sits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, GG said: It contradicts what their website says, plus the trade needs to be structured as post 6/1/20 Would it have to be structured post 6/1? Overthcap has his dead cap hit for a trade pre 6/1 as 8,000,000- they would still save a lot of jack over the last three years of the contract. I mean they essentially pay him his full contract to get 7 games out of him and sell his contract, I dont think thats a bad deal for them if they want him off the team. Otherwise, I dont see them trading him in the division, and he is projected to have about 100 more total yards than Gore. Essentially the Bills would be giving up a draft pick for a push on production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Absolutely. Wanted this guy in free agency. Provided Daboll will actually use him, Bell is a mismatch nightmare in the run and passing game. You can line him up wide and actually use him as a wide out, or use him as a RB with game breaking speed. Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Do it I wanted him in the off-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 We have a RB. Devin Singletary. How about using him more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Highly doubt he gets traded and even more highly doubt he gets traded here. But I'd at least have some amount of interest in him, unlike Gordon who I want absolutely no part of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mannc said: They will be lucky to get a late third or fourth for him. Six months ago, he was available as a free agent, for zero compensation. If that's the comp then I can see them talking now. They will do anything that helps Josh Allen out more. Edited October 29, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'd sling a 5th for him if he'd be willing to restructure his contract to where it was in the 9 mill per range with an easy out after 2020 if it's not working. No way in Hades would I be paying him 13 mill at any point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 There’s only $13m in guarantees going forward. That is a deal for a top 5 RB. Jets already paid half of his guarantees. You will have to pay Gordon more guaranteed money to re-sign him and he’s not as good as Bell. Jets took most of the risk. I’d give up a 2nd rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 At under $2m the rest of this year and over $13 next year that’s about $10m per. We pay Star L that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: At under $2m the rest of this year and over $13 next year that’s about $10m per. We pay Star L that much. Hopefully not past 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Jets are fools. That's a Chip Kelly/Lesean McCoy move if they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Personally I would be all over this. He's a game changer Uh...yeah....look how he transformed the Jets! No thanks to the $14m running backs. This is hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) As usual it depends on the return but if either team is willing to part with Bell or Gordon for a mid round pick I would do it - because either one makes our team better and Gore is on a one year deal and trending toward 200 carries which is too many for him. I also think Singletary is a nice complement to either one. Edited October 29, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, H2o said: Did anyone NOT see this coming? Gase is the greatest. Can't blame him much on this one as recall reading Gase never wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Wow...he's only averaging 3.2 ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Uh...yeah....look how he transformed the Jets! No thanks to the $14m running backs. This is hilarious. I agree that Bell hasn't been stellar for the Jets, but there's only so much even he can do on a team trotting out a practically makeshift O line and a HC that apparently thinks running the ball is the way the devil gets inside you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloRebound Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: As usual it depends on the return but if either team is willing to part with Bell or Gordon for a mid round pick I would do it - because either one makes our team better and Gore is on a one year deal and trending toward 200 carries which is too many for him. Bell is better than Gordon and signed for the next 3 years with $13m in guarantees. Gordon is gonna cost at least that much to re-sign. Jets will get a 2nd rounder or better for Bell if they move him. Chargers will be lucky to get more than 5th rounder for Gordon. But Chiefs will beat everyone to the punch and we’ll end up trading a 7th rounded for the Chiefs 3rd string back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Would the Chiefs send McCoy to NYJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Something tells me Shady may be one and done in KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Bell in Reid's offense would conjure memories of Priest Holmes for Chiefs' fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wow...he's only averaging 3.2 ypc. He won't average 3.2 ypc for KC, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Wow...he's only averaging 3.2 ypc. Just as many of us predicted before the season, his patient style that worked so well in Pittsburgh is not working in NJ because there are no holes opening up. They have the worst OL in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirby Jackson Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Bell would be DANGEROUS in Andy Reid’s offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Keep an eye on the Lions here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Bell would be DANGEROUS in Andy Reid’s offense Which is polar opposite of Baker Mayfield "dangerous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Bell is better than Gordon and signed for the next 3 years with $13m in guarantees. Gordon is gonna cost at least that much to re-sign. Jets will get a 2nd rounder or better for Bell if they move him. Chargers will be lucky to get more than 5th rounder for Gordon. But Chiefs will beat everyone to the punch and we’ll end up trading a 7th rounded for the Chiefs 3rd string back. Absolutely. Jets will want a 1st for bell. May deal him for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Next they’re gonna trade sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Next they’re gonna trade sam Or put him on IR with that thumb injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I can't believe that there will be much of a market for Bell, unless the JESTS eat almost all of the cap charge. He has a very large cap number and is not a young guy. I thought at the time that the reckless signing of Bell and Mosley, would end up poorly for them. They would have been better served to sign more lower cost guys to fill more of their roster holes. I also remember the national media gushing praise over the JESTS for these signings and speculating that they would be playoff contenders again. I can't see Beane spending money and draft picks on Bell or Gordon. It just seems inconsistent with his approach to things so far. I'm glad that it's the JESTS and Miami that are floundering in roster purgatory and not our Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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