Trogdor Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Some do. Some don't. Some have franchise QBs right from the start, some have a roster in salary cap hell. Sweeping generalizations are part of the reason people don't understand/can't emotionally handle a loss. They put themselves in hell with their cuts. We aren't the first team to be up against the cap. I also don't think we have a franchise QB now. I just don't see it the same way as others and that's fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 ...sounds like the "Monday Morning Bandwagon" has a flat tire............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Four to be exact. Ravens, San Diego, Green Bay, and the Colts. It is improvement, but the manner of the blowout is still very concerning because it says that with all the resources devoted to D, we still have the same vulnerability. I am not trying to defend a poor output in ALL 3 phases. 10 minutes remained in the 4th and a 10 point deficit. I have seen many teams over come 10 in 10. So yes, while the Final score sucked.. the game was a bit closer than the final tally. Edited October 28, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Still doesn't remove the fact that those hires are a reflection on the HC. If he had to hire a 3rd OC in 4 seasons and a 2nd DC over that time, something's wrong more than just the coordinators. And if the OC is fired, how many quality candidates will sign up for going to Buffalo? I'm guessing not many. This is true but in the end something has to be done. You don't stick with something just to stick with something even though it is wrong/bad, that's being ignorant and should get you a pink slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Yes- but Daboll doesn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Let me start off by saying not a chicken little thread and I know that we are 5-2 and still have a favorable schedule to get to the playoffs. But that also goes to what I am about to say. Let’s say the Bills do not right the ship. If this season goes like seasons in the past of collapsing down the stretch after a 5-1 now 5-2 start does McD survive? With all the talk of the DNA and Standards and Process you you think McD survives a Bills collapse? BTW add another Blowout loss to the McD resume. I can't laugh hard enough at this nonsense. You're killin me here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: You're better than this, @MAJBobby. what it is a legitimate question. Two weeks back to back this “vaunted” defense has been exposed. McD and Co have spent the most assets on this defense. His teams tend to get blown out when they lose. And the Bills have a history of Collapsing. so it was a simple question. Did I call for his job? I even caveated the thread to begin. But it is a legitimate question is it not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: They put themselves in hell with their cuts. We aren't the first team to be up against the cap. I also don't think we have a franchise QB now. I just don't see it the same way as others and that's fair. They screwed up the RB position. McCoy should of stayed imo and Singletary needs more touches. Yesterday they scratch Yeldon and bring up Senorise but only use him on special teams- which that unit stunk too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: I can't laugh hard enough at this nonsense. You're killin me here! so show me in Bills history where they have not collapsed and try to tell me a story that McD coaches teams do get blown out a lot. 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Yes- but Daboll doesn’t ok how many more Ocs does McD get to pick? And you are going to try and tell me McD doesn’t have a say in the Offensive Game plans? Edited October 28, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Four to be exact. Ravens, San Diego, Green Bay, and the Colts. It is improvement, but the manner of the blowout is still very concerning because it says that with all the resources devoted to D, we still have the same vulnerability. Draft small DTs, bring in slow DTs Get gashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: They screwed up the RB position. McCoy should of stayed imo and Singletary needs more touches. Yesterday they scratch Yeldon and bring up Senorise but only use him on special teams- which that unit stunk too. The lack of Singletary is mind boggling. They run Allen like Tebow instead. Also, where is Sweeney? Why is Lee still given the opportunity to turn out penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Let me start off by saying not a chicken little thread and I know that we are 5-2 and still have a favorable schedule to get to the playoffs. But that also goes to what I am about to say. Let’s say the Bills do not right the ship. If this season goes like seasons in the past of collapsing down the stretch after a 5-1 now 5-2 start does McD survive? With all the talk of the DNA and Standards and Process you you think McD survives a Bills collapse? BTW add another Blowout loss to the McD resume. Blowouts are your specialty. He is more likely to survive then you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Are you saying Allen isnt smart enough to run this offense because the Pats have been dominating with this offense for almost 2 decades Ummm...Brady wasn't smart enough to run this offense in 2003. Your defense and spying carried you through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: so show me in Bills history where they have not collapsed and try to tell me a story that McD coaches teams do get blown out a lot. So by your logic the bills always collapse and therefore they should get rid of yet another coach that does the same (supposedly). Maybe the problem is the coaching changes. Let's try something different - consistency. And they will, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I think McD does survive. If they lost out, which I doubt, then there will be discussions; I expect to see him back next year. McD does need to get a handle on his coaching staff because all three phases look out of control the past two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'm more concerned with the OL to run and pass protect to find out if Allen is a keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) The bills were dominated at the line on both sides of tha ball- plain and simple. FFS the defending Super Bowl champs were blown out by the Titans and lions last year. It happens sometimes. 33 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Are you saying Allen isnt smart enough to run this offense because the Pats have been dominating with this offense for almost 2 decades See above. Somehow BB kept his job Edited October 28, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 McD is better than ok Beane is very good. As they are package deal no way they will be fired. Stupid idea after 1 loss in 5-2 season. We needed consistency for 20 years but with coach who deserves another year. And McD sure deserves it more than our prevuios coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: He needs to remove Dabol. Allen will be stunted in this offense. Its Allen not Dabol. Open your eyes. He is still raw. Locks on to a receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Ummm...Brady wasn't smart enough to run this offense in 2003. Your defense and spying carried you through. 14-2 beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Artem Lipatov said: McD is better than ok Beane is very good. As they are package deal no way they will be fired. Stupid idea after 1 loss in 5-2 season. We needed consistency for 20 years but with coach who deserves another year. And McD sure deserves it more than our prevuios coaches. and if season ends at 5-12 or 6-10 will you be screaming for continuity at the coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: 14-2 beg to differ Your reply says nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: and if season ends at 5-12 or 6-10 will you be screaming for continuity at the coaching staff The season won't end that way. You're being ridiculous because they had one bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 When I used to post here more frequently, there was a "wall-bash" emoticon...it would be perfect for this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Your reply says nothing My point is the scheme is fine, but its a tough scheme to ececute. Both the qb and receivers have to be seeing the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: and if season ends at 5-12 or 6-10 will you be screaming for continuity at the coaching staff I am confident this season will not end 5-12 or 6-10. We'll be in playoffs. And McD will keep his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: See above. Somehow BB kept his job To be fair, BB has built up enough equity to have some bad games or stupid decisions and get to keep his job...... 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: The season won't end that way. You're being ridiculous because they had one bad game. This isn't just one bad game, they have been like this all year, but they were playing bad teams and getting really lucky that those games ended up as wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: He needs to remove Dabol. Allen will be stunted in this offense. Where are all the Daboll apologists now? We heard so much about his pedigree last year. The Pats, The Tide, blah blah blah.....Apparently he was a system guy. And if you argue he is working with a half full glass on a rebuild, what about McD and Beane pushing all in on one side of the ball? The side that got pushed around yesterday, even when they knew it was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: The season won't end that way. You're being ridiculous because they had one bad game. Two weeks in a Row and this Vaunted defense has been exposed. Philly just better than MIA so. Also not like the offense is great. I know they have a very favorable schedule so maybe playing bad teams will mask them like they it has all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, Luka said: McDermott is fine, he just needs to fire that waste of space OC. And in the mean time stick his butt up in the box during games and out the qb coach on the sideline with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Is this a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Are you saying Allen isnt smart enough to run this offense because the Pats have been dominating with this offense for almost 2 decades This is NOT the Josh McDaniels offense. It is not. You are sadly mistaken my friend. This offense has more college concepts than pro and Daboll does a pretty job calling a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Lets also remember if Not for the Jets Collapse the Bengals comeback and the 4 missed kicks during the titans they would and could be 2-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Make it stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 In all reality the season starts today. How they respond is all McDermott. He has to get them ready to play. This loss is no different than the Ravens getting blown out at home to Cleveland. Got to regroup and win the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: If they end up 5-11, no he probably doesn't. Otherwise, yes. Yes because the schedule would have to be factored in. It's quite an easy schedule this year. If they went 5-11 then he's lost this team. Edited October 28, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 While I understand what the OP is trying to say, this isn’t the time. If we end up .500 after the next 6 weeks, then okay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so show me in Bills history where they have not collapsed and try to tell me a story that McD coaches teams do get blown out a lot. ok how many more Ocs does McD get to pick? And you are going to try and tell me McD doesn’t have a say in the Offensive Game plans? I don’t know I am not behind closed doors with them. I do feel this team is heading upward still but McDermitt will not get fired unless we have a complete meltdown and that is iffy. We are 5-2 and on to the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Me thinks the Major is either still drunk from last night, or he is a big proponent of day drinking. I'm not a huge fan of McD, but he is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Me thinks the Major is either still drunk from last night, or he is a big proponent of day drinking. I'm not a huge fan of McD, but he is going nowhere. Neither, just figured I would spark a thread that would have discussion and grounded ideas instead of the normal fire everyone or trade for everyone thread that can happen after a loss. PS I stopped Drinking in 2008 (after 3rd deployment, I would get very very angry while drinking) Edited October 28, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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