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Today sucked, the front seven was terrible on the run.   The question is, will this be one bad game of the beginning of another downward spiral?

 

Whether or not McDermott and the staff can correct this during the rest of the season was go a long way in telling how good of a coach McDermott can be.

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Phillips is great and star have never been so what are you talking about??

 

bottom line is bigger good players are better than smaller good players.

 

 

Can we grow these big good players on trees?  Where do we get them?

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My Takes:

 

The first half Allen fumble is being overrated; some feel a need to state that the momentum changed there. I mean come on if that causes your team to crumble you've got bigger problems. I didn't love the playcalls the series that ended in the fumble, but we scored in the third on a great drive, and cut the score to 13-17 and then the D gave it right back to them! Was that not a big turning point?

 

Underrated: the lack of touches by Singletary in the first half 1? - I believe. Was the early gameplan really to run at Fletcher Cox?

 

Overrated : people bashing Allen for this game, I mean come on people, Eagles ran the ball down our throats after he'd just brought us down the field. He is not the reason we lost this game, IMO he actually played pretty well given the circumstances. Did Wentz look that much better than him? I say no way.

 

Underrated: How much the Eagles coaching staff outschemed, and outfocused our staff this week. I mean Bills defense had 10 men on the field, 2x lining up Offside penalties, dumb penalties on offense, dropped passes, couldn't win 3rd down or RZ on defense, couldn't avoid 3rd and long on offense after screwing up 1 and 2 with bad play calls and penalties......need I say more. This area is extremely concerning to me.

 

Underrated: I watched Mike Evans on RZ and he bailed out Winston multple times as JW just threw the ball up and trusted him to make  a play and he did! We don't have enough playmakers on offense, I can only imagine what a help it would be for JA to have someone like Evans. It impacts the team in a complementary fashion to not have enough of these guys.

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24 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

These false starts drive me nuts, then two right in a row.

 

 

 

As much as I hate that......LINING UP Offside is worse! Is that NOT something you look at every single play? Where’s the ball? Where am I? It seems pretty simple! 

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1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Better hot take:  Fill up the ignore user list by Halloween...

 

 

Instead, why not just stfu rather than being a snarky terd? Legit question.  Super insightful, and well worthwhile commentary here in this quip.  I hear only the super coolest people even know how to use the ignore list, let alone actually go out of their way to use it...

 

Besides, why such a hard on for “Dabe’s“, what exactly has this team shown you on offense that you think there isn’t room for improvement at the OC spot?  I’m really interested in hearing your take...

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40 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Disagree with this, but it happens right?

 

I think Dabol called a game that I would expect to see in a dome. He ignored conditions on the field, field position and game situations, and ignored the plays that his offense was executing vs the plays they were struggling to make. In a game that begged for grind it out ball control in the 2nd half before they fell so far behind he was giving up 3 and outs with pass, pass, pass and putting a struggling defense back on the field. Not his best day.

 

He called a bad game, AND the Bills players did not execute very well either. I think it is safe to say that both can happen.

 

In his post game presser, McDermott pretty much said that the OL was getting pushed back so we couldn’t run.

 

Shouldn’t this be something the right play calling can counter and take advantage of, at least to some extent?

 

I dunno that just sounded like an excuse to me.

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In his post game presser, McDermott pretty much said that the OL was getting pushed back so we couldn’t run.

 

Shouldn’t this be something the right play calling can counter and take advantage of, at least to some extent?

 

I dunno that just sounded like an excuse to me.

 

Early in the game I think that was true, but not after the half after they made some adjustments. Gore's few carries were strong evidence it was working.

 

I think McD was giving air support for Daboll, but will disect that game plan in private.

 

I prefer he runs things that way, never seen anything good come from throwing your coaches under the bus in a public forum.

 

Bad teams with bad HCs do that.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In his post game presser, McDermott pretty much said that the OL was getting pushed back so we couldn’t run.

 

Shouldn’t this be something the right play calling can counter and take advantage of, at least to some extent?

 

I dunno that just sounded like an excuse to me.

Nope.  I say this all the time:  football is about winning up front, about physically beating the other guy.  Has been since the first game ever played.  And their lines just flat out kicked the Bill’s tails all day.  Play calls were certainly questionable at times but the team and fans need to just accept that they were just better today.  They just kicked the Bill’s ass.  And play calling doesn’t fix that.

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Nope.  I say this all the time:  football is about winning up front, about physically beating the other guy.  Has been since the first game ever played.  And their lines just flat out kicked the Bill’s tails all day.  Play calls were certainly questionable at times but the team and fans need to just accept that they were just better today.  They just kicked the Bill’s ass.  And play calling doesn’t fix that.

This^^. You can cover up some things, but it’s tough to win if you don’t at least get a draw upfront. Bills were beat on the LOS all day. Not good , as it was Cox and some backups. 

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Just now, Boatdrinks said:

This^^. You can cover up some things, but it’s tough to win if you don’t at least get a draw upfront. Bills were beat on the LOS all day. Not good , as it was Cox and some backups. 

Their #55 abused the O line the entire game

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15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Joe fan makes up a twitter about Bills injures players and reports the obvious.. Listened to this guy on Locked on Bills and he provides nothing more than McDermott reports on a Wednesday  

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Nope.  I say this all the time:  football is about winning up front, about physically beating the other guy.  Has been since the first game ever played.  And their lines just flat out kicked the Bill’s tails all day.  Play calls were certainly questionable at times but the team and fans need to just accept that they were just better today.  They just kicked the Bill’s ass.  And play calling doesn’t fix that.

 

Their defense definitely were playing on our side of the line in the first half.

 

Their offensive line was pushing around our D in the 2nd. Yep, that was a beating.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Where's the Game Balls - Who Ya Got thread?  I really want to give a game ball to:

 

Wentz

Howard

Daboll - the Josh run fumble before the half changed the game.  Abandoning the run the rest of the way seals the deal.

Seriously....You could make the case Daboll is fully to blame for this loss.  Any talk of him as a head coach is hilarious.   

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

And they had back-ups in all over the place.    Sean, you and your team should be embarrassed  

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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In his post game presser, McDermott pretty much said that the OL was getting pushed back so we couldn’t run.

 

Shouldn’t this be something the right play calling can counter and take advantage of, at least to some extent?

 

I dunno that just sounded like an excuse to me.

Well, it's certainly not going to be very easy to pass either if your OL is getting schooled. Your OL getting beat isn't a run/pass thing.

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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

In his post game presser, McDermott pretty much said that the OL was getting pushed back so we couldn’t run.

 

Shouldn’t this be something the right play calling can counter and take advantage of, at least to some extent?

 

I dunno that just sounded like an excuse to me.

 

Have you ever learned anything from a McDermott presser? I gave up on it long ago 

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1 hour ago, Turk71 said:

  I don't think it is an overreaction to say that Daboll is an idiot and needs to go. That game plan of passing all day in 30 mph winds and barely using the rbs was so absolutely incomprehensible and stupid that I cannot wrap my head around it. 

  P.S. Star still sucks.

I've read a couple summaries of the game and so far no mention of the fact the Bills rbs were given the ball 12 times even though they were having success and Allen threw the ball 34 times in high winds even though he was not having success. That is the inexplicable fact and should be the number one story when writing this games summary. 

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