ILBillsfan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 a third pick pats defense eating young qb's alive really would of loved to see allen come back in that pats game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Well Darnold has already had his breakout game over 300 yards and 3tds passing so he must be better than allen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Really? Hero ball? ***** football is ***** football. Allen looked just as terrible vs the Pats. Second half Josh lead an impressive drive and was leading another when he got hurt .......definitely played like crap in the first half 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mead107 said: Had more yds than Brady and did not finish game I never said Brady looked good either. He was dreadful against a very good defense. That doesn't mean Allen played good. He still threw 3 picks while not finishing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Allen definitely has something special about him that I don’t see with Darnold. Allen just has to clean up some things. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Watching him against the Pats how can anyone argue this point now? Then again maybe he got mono again after it skipped the Cowboys game last week I don't think any QB should be judged on either their worst game or their light-your-hair-on-fire best game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Truth, but has any QB looked even remotely decent against the Pats D? Well, Nick Foles lit them up in the SB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Both qbs have looked like complete crap against the pats. That’s what the Pats do to young QB’s. It’s not unique to these two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Holy hell this thread is full blown AIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The jets suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Allen definitely has something special about him that I don’t see with Darnold. Allen just has to clean up some things. Neither of them has a complete skill set at this point. Their strengths and weakness are just different. Remains to be seen whether one, both, or neither will develop and how far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Did Allen have his best game against the Pats? No. But he was not anywhere NEAR this bad. At least Josh kept his team in the game. The defense kept them in the game. You want to argue about which poo sandwich tastes worse go for it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 and a fourth pick not to mention a center qb exchange issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s what the Pats do to young QB’s. It’s not unique to these two guys. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Wow must be the mono 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 He’s terrible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Anyone who thinks Allen played this bad against the Pats is delusional. Yeah he played bad but this is a ***** joke. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Our game against the patriots, would have been so much more entertaining in primetime. This game was over when the pats scored their first TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, BananaB said: Anyone who thinks Allen played this bad against the Pats is delusional. Yeah he played bad but this is a ***** joke. Josh had a HORRIBLE first half, but looked mostly good in the second. I always look for progress, and he had it just in the course of that game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Really? Hero ball? ***** football is ***** football. Allen looked just as terrible vs the Pats. Yea, trying to make something out of nothing. You watching Darnold right now? 4 picks and counting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s what the Pats do to young QB’s. It’s not unique to these two guys. to be fair Allen threw a ball into double coverage that was allen looking bad vs Pats defense The under throw to Zay, who was open for a td was not forced by the Pats defense and then the hero ball on the sideline was again more of an allen trying to make something out of nothing picks are picks but Allen did look better in the second half, darnold has yet to look very good unless you want to give all the PI calls to his credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 And to think Sam has one of the best offensive players in football in the backfield as his safety valve Bills skill talent still is a work in progress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I’m all for Tommy taking his lumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: That's 100% of what QB's are graded on. No, it's the team's won/loss record. Because there's nothing else involved in wins and losses. It all goes straight from the QB's play to the final score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, CLTbills said: It's the only stat that matters. Edited October 22, 2019 by Nick the Greek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Josh had a HORRIBLE first half, but looked mostly good in the second. I always look for progress, and he had it just in the course of that game. I believe the Bills would have won the game if not for the concussion protocol causing, illegal "helmet lead" hit on Josh. He and Daboll had started to figure it out. My standard line on that concussion protocol causing, illegal "helmet lead" hit is if that would have been on Brady, the referees would have been authorized to execute the perp immediately by any means necessary. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: I believe the Bills would have won the game if not for the concussion protocol causing, illegal "helmet lead" hit on Josh. He and Daboll had started to figure it out. My standard line on that concussion protocol causing, illegal "helmet lead" hit is if that would have been on Brady, the referees would have been authorized to execute the perp immediately by any means necessary. I fully believe they have snipers nests in the lights in every stadium around the league for when the Patriots visits for exactly this reason! I think we may have pulled that game out, and they would go to any measures necessary to prevent that. Legal or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, teef said: Young qbs are looking like young qbs. I wasn’t always as awesome as I am now. Some things take time A longgggg time perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, BananaB said: Anyone who thinks Allen played this bad against the Pats is delusional. Yeah he played bad but this is a ***** joke. He still played like actual garbage. Do you and your neighbor argue about who's garbage smells worse, or who's turd was nastier? They both sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, CLTbills said: Did Allen have his best game against the Pats? No. But he was not anywhere NEAR this bad. At least Josh kept his team in the game. The bills d kept them in the game, not Allen. Some folks seem to take criticism of Allen personally. They both sucked against ne. One more than the other and it still means they both lost. It's way too early to tell who's better. Some have pointed to win-loss record. Maybe Lamar Jackson is better than Darnold and Allen. Just saying. Edited October 22, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He still played like actual garbage. Do you and your neighbor argue about who's garbage smells worse, or who's turd was nastier? They both sucked. So when he plays a good game we don’t need to compare with every other QB who played good. It’s all the same right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dopey said: The bills d kept them in the game, not Allen. Some folks seem to take criticism of Allen personally. They both sucked against ne. One more than the other and it still means we both lost. It's way too early to tell who's better. Some have pointed to win-loss record. Maybe Lamar Jackson is better than Darnold and Allen. Just saying. Allen helped with that very nice 3rd quarter drive. He was 6 - 6 for 69 yards then he scored on a 4th down leap into the end zone. That cut the score to 13 - 10. And while Allen's INT's were bad and represented lost opportunities none of them were in the Pat's red zone nor did any of his INT's give the Pats the ball in our Red Zone. Allen had a poor game against the Pats. Darnold has had an historically horrific game against the Pats. Edited October 22, 2019 by CincyBillsFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He still played like actual garbage. Do you and your neighbor argue about who's garbage smells worse, or who's turd was nastier? They both sucked. Allen was driving the team for what would have been the go ahead score when we was knocked out on a cheap shot.. Darnold still has Laveon Bell and he still has 4 picks and a safety in his pocket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Darnold looks like shite tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Dang, Darnold has faced 3 defenses this season. Two of them are top of the league defenses. Though I agree with OP, I am amazed at how disregard the skill of the Pats' defense is here. It must mean the opposing QB sucks and deserves an "F" grade. BB's defense is making 2d year QBs look bad... So surprising. Edited October 22, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He still played like actual garbage. Do you and your neighbor argue about who's garbage smells worse, or who's turd was nastier? They both sucked. I think the point many of us are trying to make, is that when Allen has a bad game, or even makes a bad decision, it's magnified. Right now, it's all about how great the Pat's D is, with Allen, it's how horrible he was against them. And yes, Sam is having the worse game of the 2. 8-24 for 50yds, 4 picks, 1 fumble and 0 Tds. This is no longer a debate. Edited October 22, 2019 by Allen2Moulds 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 In the game I saw JA scored the first touchdown against the Patriots this season. Whiners going to whine anyhow I guess. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Serves the NFL right giving the Jets a Monday night football game and not Buffalo idiots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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