I’m just going to come out and say it - this is the year

[ganesh]

16 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

Schedule was set up perfectly. 

 

Team had plenty of time to work out the kinks in the first 3/4 of the season being a cupcake schedule. Now they're going to the playoffs, and they basically get a playoff pre-season over the next month to see how they compare to the conference contenders with Baltimore and NE, and Pittsburgh and Jets both being exhibition takes on wildcard games. 

 

They continue to click and improve, and meet their level of competition - which I think they will - then they are as viable as anyone. If they beat Baltimore (coming out game for Edmunds) and NE (if you send this new Allen back in time to the first game, we win)... could you imagine? 

 

All of the pieces are there for them to get hot at the right time and be that team.

If Steelers beat the Browns today, they will be as equally tough as any other playoff team...and they do have a real defense....

[iinii]

4 hours ago, ganesh said:

How could the AFC hvae been a cupcake...There was:

Marino and the Dolphins

Montana and the Chiefs

Elway with the Broncos

Emerging Bledsoe with Patriots

Esiason with the Bengals and later with Jets,

Part of it was we played the Colts/Pats/Jets every year. There are 4-6 wins per.

Edited December 1, 2019 by iinii
Grammar

[Buffalo Boy]

6 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

 

Maybe it'll be like the Eagles game in 1990.  That was the turning point game for the no huddle and the SB bound Bills.

What a game. I watched that in an Irish pub in Canoga Park Ca

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

How could the AFC hvae been a cupcake...There was:

Marino and the Dolphins

Montana and the Chiefs

Elway with the Broncos

Emerging Bledsoe with Patriots

Esiason with the Bengals and later with Jets,

 

1990-1993 AFC was a joke.  Glitzy young QB's but mentally and physically soft teams with inferior coaching.

 

The Bills were no joke.......it's a shame that they didn't break the NFC stranglehold on the SB because they had as much or more talent than ANYONE........but their biggest issue most weeks against the AFC was making sure they showed up. 

 

Their tendency to play down to the lousy AFC competition from 1991-1993 was maddening.    Whenever I watch the Belichick Pats consistently make sure to finish off the Bills it harkens me back to some of the days the Bills went easy on those sorry old Pats team.   Hugh Millen even took the a SuperBills team to OT one time!   How hughmillenating!   The ultimate was the sorry performance in the 1991 AFC Championship game versus Denver where they played like they had zero interest in returning to the SB.    They should have beaten that team by 30.

 

But they were sensitive to the idea that they weren't NFC worthy and would get fired up to play the NFC teams in regular season and were actually 14-2 against the NFC in the SB era........which only served to illustrate that those SB losses were half caused by self doubt and by the lack of being battle tested down the stretch.   The NFC teams were building to a crescendo and saying things like "we are competing against our own standard" while Marv was just tryna keep his ridiculously talented team interested for a couple quarters so they could get a big lead and put it in cruise.   

[John from Riverside]

HOLY *****

[Mark Vader]

10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Bipolar .. there is a bit of it around here as we see in the game thread every week..

 

 

Yes, and a lot of the Josh Allen haters have disappeared.

[GregPersons]

4 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Yes, and a lot of the Josh Allen haters have disappeared.

 

Right around the time he started playing really well!

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 10/10/2019 at 11:47 AM, Wayne Arnold said:

I’m just going to come out

 

I think that everyone on the board already knew.

[1ManRaid]

15 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Guess he's back on the band wagon again. Few weeks ago they were doomed according to Wayne. Back n forth I see lol

 

15 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

The Bills are a roller coaster.

 

I predicted 11 wins in the pre-season prediction thread.

 

There's one poster who is 100% on their prediction. Got the Cleveland loss and the Dallas win correct. I think they predicted 12 wins. Gotta find that thread.

 

 

People have been saying it's our year and predicting double digit win totals for 20 years.  Some have been saying it for all of those 20 years.  I'll be the jerk who won't give credit for people finally correctly "predicting" this with educated guesses on an easy schedule.

 

It's like someone playing the same lottery numbers for 20 years and then finally winning some money saying "ha, I told you these were THE lucky numbers".  I also figured we could lose to the Browns and beat the Cowboys, that's less of a stretch than sweeping the Patriots and taking the first seed after a losing season or something like that.

[Trogdor]

5 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Yes, and a lot of the Josh Allen haters have disappeared.

I for one have never thought he was the answer, but the consistent level of play lately is changing my mind. All I've wanted was consistency and his disappearance against good to very good defenses wasn't really what I would call promising. We the "haters" haven't really disappeared, but the large volume of "Josh Allen haters" posts have probably just drowned them out. Just wait for a game where he slips up, the pendulum will swing. For the record, I think that Oliver will be a stud and have since before the draft, I think Edmunds is going to be a force at either MLB or OLB for a long time, and I think that Knox has suspect hands that will eventually be his downfall. Oh, and I think that Dawkins might be the most overrated Bill and they need two tackles to really solidify that line. 

[Chandler#81]

15 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

I for one have never thought he was the answer, but the consistent level of play lately is changing my mind. All I've wanted was consistency and his disappearance against good to very good defenses wasn't really what I would call promising. We the "haters" haven't really disappeared, but the large volume of "Josh Allen haters" posts have probably just drowned them out. Just wait for a game where he slips up, the pendulum will swing. For the record, I think that Oliver will be a stud and have since before the draft, I think Edmunds is going to be a force at either MLB or OLB for a long time, and I think that Knox has suspect hands that will eventually be his downfall. Oh, and I think that Dawkins might be the most overrated Bill and they need two tackles to really solidify that line. 

Not sorry to disappoint you, but if you do crawl out of the woodwork following what now must be considered an ever disappearing poor performance from our 2nd year QB, I’ll tear your Haterass to shreds with facts only the blind refuse to see.

Get on Board or GTFO.

[Trogdor]

13 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Not sorry to disappoint you, but if you do crawl out of the woodwork following what now must be considered an ever disappearing poor performance from our 2nd year QB, I’ll tear your Haterass to shreds with facts only the blind refuse to see.

Get on Board or GTFO.

Somehow I knew that you of all people would show up for this, because the picture fits. If you don't think that this board will swing after a bad game, you are nuts. That's how it is here, no shades of grey. Clearly anybody pointing out that Allen isn't a god is a "hater" to many on this board, and the constant calls outs depending on results from both sides is annoying at best. You basically overlooked how I said he was changing my mind to find something to argue about. Let me repeat it so we can do this again, his recent level of play has impressed me and has brought the level of consistency that I was seeking. However, anybody who thinks that everyone on this board is just going to stay optimistic after a loss is delusional. 

[Chandler#81]

From Trogdor’s favorite newspaper, the Boston Globe today

[Don Otreply]

50 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

I for one have never thought he was the answer, but the consistent level of play lately is changing my mind. All I've wanted was consistency and his disappearance against good to very good defenses wasn't really what I would call promising. We the "haters" haven't really disappeared, but the large volume of "Josh Allen haters" posts have probably just drowned them out. Just wait for a game where he slips up, the pendulum will swing. For the record, I think that Oliver will be a stud and have since before the draft, I think Edmunds is going to be a force at either MLB or OLB for a long time, and I think that Knox has suspect hands that will eventually be his downfall. Oh, and I think that Dawkins might be the most overrated Bill and they need two tackles to really solidify that line. 

You do realize you sound like an..., donkey right? Your type of whiny complaining troupe is the course taken by the weak minds of our world,  

be content in your self imposed low level thoughts, cause that’s all you’ve got evidently. 

 

Go Bills!!!

[Chandler#81]

11 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Somehow I knew that you of all people would show up for this, because the picture fits. If you don't think that this board will swing after a bad game, you are nuts. That's how it is here, no shades of grey. Clearly anybody pointing out that Allen isn't a god is a "hater" to many on this board, and the constant calls outs depending on results from both sides is annoying at best. You basically overlooked how I said he was changing my mind to find something to argue about. Let me repeat it so we can do this again, his recent level of play has impressed me and has brought the level of consistency that I was seeking. However, anybody who thinks that everyone on this board is just going to stay optimistic after a loss is delusional. 

I don’t overlook anything. Yes, your warped Hater persona has friends here. It’s called a cult. In no way does it make you right nor insightful. There’s other Fan Boards you’ll likely be more welcome to share your Allen Hate. I recommend Boston sites, though I’m sure you’re aware of them. They’ll join you here on the rare occasion a stinker game pops up.  I’ll be here waiting on you.

[Gugny]

25 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

From Trogdor’s favorite newspaper, the Boston Globe today

 

Seems that writer is a tad jealous that Josh has been playing better than Brady for the last month.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

43 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Not sorry to disappoint you, but if you do crawl out of the woodwork following what now must be considered an ever disappearing poor performance from our 2nd year QB, I’ll tear your Haterass to shreds with facts only the blind refuse to see.

Get on Board or GTFO.

 

....cue up the "Taps" tape....he is in uncharted waters.....and you are VERY easy going.....

[fansince88]

5 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Seems that writer is a tad jealous that Josh has been playing better than Brady for the last month.

Right. Headless chicken? What does that even mean. That usually means aimless running does it not?

[Chandler#81]

5 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Right. Headless chicken? What does that even mean. That usually means aimless running does it not?

Thanks. I didn’t want to show my lack of new idioms in today’s lexicon, but I don’t know what it means, aside from it not sounding favorable.

[aristocrat]

If Allen keeps this play up its going to be very tough to beat this team.  If you play efficient offense both running and throwing along with the smothering defense....wins. 

[fansince88]

Just now, Chandler#81 said:

Thanks. I didn’t want to show my lack of new idioms in today’s lexicon, but I don’t know what it means, aside from it not sounding favorable.

The " running around like a chicken with its head cut off" is related to the way you 'put down' a chicken. Lay it over a stomp while holding its head. Drop the hatchet and without the head the chicken takes off running while it has no head into everything around. I think nost agree, except for one you called out earlier, this is not Josh.  

[fansince88]

2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

People have been saying it's our year and predicting double digit win totals for 20 years.  Some have been saying it for all of those 20 years.  I'll be the jerk who won't give credit for people finally correctly "predicting" this with educated guesses on an easy schedule.

 

It's like someone playing the same lottery numbers for 20 years and then finally winning some money saying "ha, I told you these were THE lucky numbers".  I also figured we could lose to the Browns and beat the Cowboys, that's less of a stretch than sweeping the Patriots and taking the first seed after a losing season or something like that.

Wow. You ok? 

[ganesh]

24 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

If Allen keeps this play up its going to be very tough to beat this team.  If you play efficient offense both running and throwing along with the smothering defense....wins. 

They have to keep improvising and improving the game. The NFL is a Not For Long league...Teams will figure you out and you have to continue to throw more stuff at them.

[Chandler#81]

53 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....cue up the "Taps" tape....he is in uncharted waters.....and you are VERY easy going.....

eh, we’ve certainly always seen fan hatred, every sports team has this faction. Given the decades of abject failure, many have adopted ‘they suck at everything they do’ mantra as a way to compartmentalize their reason for following them. My father is one of these folks. But here’s the thing; none of us own the team, hire the GM, coaches or their staffs. We have zero input in what they do as an organization except spend our time & money to  follow our hometown team. The owner saw fit to clean house after less than 2 years of the mediocre Ryan/Whaley era, hiring ‘McBeane’. They immediately altered the team, ridding multiple pro bowlers at WR, DB, DT, LT & QB while orchestrating a highly improbable playoff season. The cleaning continued last year to amass more draft picks than we’ve ever had since the League went to 7 Rounds. Then traded away most of them to move up and draft Allen. Many here opposed the move though again, had zero input. Forced to go to the unproven, unseasoned rookie early became a better plan than sitting him for a couple years. They reaped more rewards with a hard earned FA spending extravaganza this year. The results are in. They’re pretty good and the players’ growth has been nothing short of remarkable. It makes it very easy to spend more of our $$ on them (you should see the Bills Xmas gifts being delivered here every day!). 

So I ask, WHY are there still factions of this ever-improving teams’ fandom who prefer to doubt we’re becoming legit and much of it is due to Allen’s play? Is it a protective Doom Shield? Do they really want another QB? Or are they too stubborn to accept their goddamn early beliefs that the Bills were wrong again, they were right -as usual- and we’ll all be touting their praises in the near future for having tried to tell us so. 

There is currently zero reason to doubt the trajectory of this young team. We may well be in for even greater thrills yet this season, to say nothing of the next few years. 

Silence, troglodytes. A new Day has dawned. Enjoy it.

[Wayne Arnold]

3 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

I think that everyone on the board already knew.

 

Keep the homophobic jokes coming! They're hilarious in almost-2020.

[CommonCents]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

From Trogdor’s favorite newspaper, the Boston Globe today

Who wrote that? 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

19 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

eh, we’ve certainly always seen fan hatred, every sports team has this faction. Given the decades of abject failure, many have adopted ‘they suck at everything they do’ mantra as a way to compartmentalize their reason for following them. My father is one of these folks. But here’s the thing; none of us own the team, hire the GM, coaches or their staffs. We have zero input in what they do as an organization except spend our time & money to  follow our hometown team. The owner saw fit to clean house after less than 2 years of the mediocre Ryan/Whaley era, hiring ‘McBeane’. They immediately altered the team, ridding multiple pro bowlers at WR, DB, DT, LT & QB while orchestrating a highly improbable playoff season. The cleaning continued last year to amass more draft picks than we’ve ever had since the League went to 7 Rounds. Then traded away most of them to move up and draft Allen. Many here opposed the move though again, had zero input. Forced to go to the unproven, unseasoned rookie early became a better plan than sitting him for a couple years. They reaped more rewards with a hard earned FA spending extravaganza this year. The results are in. They’re pretty good and the players’ growth has been nothing short of remarkable. It makes it very easy to spend more of our $$ on them (you should see the Bills Xmas gifts being delivered here every day!). 

So I ask, WHY are there still factions of this ever-improving teams’ fandom who prefer to doubt we’re becoming legit and much of it is due to Allen’s play? Is it a protective Doom Shield? Do they really want another QB? Or are they too stubborn to accept their goddamn early beliefs that the Bills were wrong again, they were right -as usual- and we’ll all be touting their praises in the near future for having tried to tell us so. 

There is currently zero reason to doubt the trajectory of this young team. We may well be in for even greater thrills yet this season, to say nothing of the next few years. 

Silence, troglodytes. A new Day has dawned. Enjoy it.

 

...pretty freakin' sad my friend....almost like they hope the Bills collapse down the stretch so they can say, "see I told you so...they suck".......and it's not only the team, it's INDIVIDUAL players.....pretty bold 'n brassy to be a keyboard coward from under one's desk to launch tirades....and OF COURSE they ALL come back with "mea culpas" when wrong, correct?....but that is the nature of the electronic MB beast......how you guys show up daily to be MODS is beyond me.....special thanks to "Fisher Price Wi-Fi"...SMH...

[BUFFALOKIE]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

From Trogdor’s favorite newspaper, the Boston Globe today

 

You are not a a good moderator. Probably a cool dude, but you seem to be very confrontational here.

[Chandler#81]

11 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

 

You are not a a good moderator. Probably a cool dude, but you seem to be very confrontational here.

You’re welcome to your opinion. I don’t think I’m VERY confrontational, but I do choose when to fight. I think you’d be amazed what moderating entails. It can harden the happiest of people.

 

I’ll try to be a little more forgiving of non violations I think are simply stupid.?

Thanks.

[BUFFALOKIE]

12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

You’re welcome to your opinion. I don’t think I’m VERY confrontational, but I do choose when to fight. I think you’d be amazed what moderating entails. It can harden the happiest of people.

 

I’ll try to be a little more forgiving of non violations I think are simply stupid.?

Thanks.

Thx. I do appreciate you.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

16 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

Thx. I do appreciate you.

 

It's not like he was wrong. There's a handful of miserable people here that are bound to their previous negative takes.

[LeGOATski]

4 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

People have been saying it's our year and predicting double digit win totals for 20 years.  Some have been saying it for all of those 20 years.  I'll be the jerk who won't give credit for people finally correctly "predicting" this with educated guesses on an easy schedule.

 

It's like someone playing the same lottery numbers for 20 years and then finally winning some money saying "ha, I told you these were THE lucky numbers".  I also figured we could lose to the Browns and beat the Cowboys, that's less of a stretch than sweeping the Patriots and taking the first seed after a losing season or something like that.

You're just jealous

[Don Otreply]

52 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

You’re welcome to your opinion. I don’t think I’m VERY confrontational, but I do choose when to fight. I think you’d be amazed what moderating entails. It can harden the happiest of people.

 

I’ll try to be a little more forgiving of non violations I think are simply stupid.?

Thanks.

No, just continue doing what you’re doing, it keeps the rif raf in check, it also keeps the likes of me in check, makes me use a better vocabulary when disagreeing with that faction of posters.  

 

Go Bills!!!

[BUFFALOKIE]

1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

No, just continue doing what you’re doing, it keeps the rif raf in check, it also keeps the likes of me in check, makes me use a better vocabulary when disagreeing with that faction of posters.  

 

Go Bills!!!

Agreed. I am next to worthless on this board. Butt....mods should be held to a higher standard. 

 

I love this board .

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

People have been saying it's our year and predicting double digit win totals for 20 years.  Some have been saying it for all of those 20 years.  I'll be the jerk who won't give credit for people finally correctly "predicting" this with educated guesses on an easy schedule.

 

It's like someone playing the same lottery numbers for 20 years and then finally winning some money saying "ha, I told you these were THE lucky numbers".  I also figured we could lose to the Browns and beat the Cowboys, that's less of a stretch than sweeping the Patriots and taking the first seed after a losing season or something like that.

 

I had us 9-3 at this stage but beating the Browns and losing to the Cowboys. The only other time I predicted 10 wins was Rex's first year. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

On 10/10/2019 at 12:47 PM, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

 

 

Honestly, Wayne, I’ve been thinking this the last few days.

 

Additionally, I am slightly worried that even though our trajectory is going up word we may lose a couple of pieces this off season that might hurt us in the long run.

 

...if we can get to 13-3, if we can make a run...all in.

Edited December 2, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts

[Junyto]

Well let's start by getting a new kicker, and we need to work on the offense and run defense. I think we win 11 games, 13 nahh. But we'll be in the playoffs for sure. Go Bills 

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

What’s good, gents? What’s good? 
 

Watching this Texans/Patriots* game, YE OLE is just going to say it like it is. If we can knock off Baltimore next week, there’s a really good chance we’re going to be the #1 seed. To clarify... YE OLE is not saying that’s going to be easy.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Bills win AFC east next year 

[BuffaloHokie13]

23 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

From Trogdor’s favorite newspaper, the Boston Globe today

They need a fact checker. Allen has 11 turnovers, not 13.