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I’m just going to come out and say it - this is the year

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1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I don't know if you're purposely being obtuse or if you just don't understand my point. We are 12th in the league in yards per game and we're 26th in points per game. That's because we aren't finishing drives.

 

I guess I was accidentally obtuse.  My point was that when we make it to the red zone, we finish drives better than most teams in the league, which I think is really positive.  The red zone is more challenging on offenses where everything is tighter, so I am encouraged by this stat.

 

I completely agree with you that we haven't generated the points that we should have with how well we've moved the ball this year.  I feel that our offense is better than our points per game would indicate.  Josh's hero ball tendancies have turned the ball over too much and resulted in 20-yard sacks when we were already in field goal range.  I think Josh will make fewer of these mistakes in the second half of the season.

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15 minutes ago, H2o said:

I already had the feeling this team was special and talked about it through the offseason. I think we not only get to the playoffs, but win in the playoffs this year. I want to see how they come out of the bye week against Miami. I want to see a dominant performance in all facets given they've had rest and more than ample time to prepare. The only thing that makes me nervous is we either seem to play up to the level of the team we are facing or down to it in a sense. In the end, it's on Josh. If he limits his mistakes, because every QB is going to make them, and doesn't throw the bad interception or take the bad sack then this team has the chance to be standing on the podium in February. Look at the Ravens teams that won the SB, the Tampa team, the Steelers team that won in '06, they all won with defense and just enough offense. If Josh can not put us in bad situations, take what the defense gives him, and play smart football for the rest of the season then why not us?

 

My answer to why not us is that we have to find a way to beat the Patriots. And until we do it I am going to continue to doubt their ability to do it.

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25 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

If you think the defense is going to hold every opponent to under 20 points your sadly mistaken

What team currently on our schedule do you think will score more than 20 on us?

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2 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

What team currently on our schedule do you think will score more than 20 on us?

 

The eagles might, if we see good wentz. I don't think we'll see good wentz. I'm sure the Lamont Jackson fan club will claim they will, but I'm not convinced. Dallas? Again, good Dak or bad Dak?

 

 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

The eagles might, if we see good wentz. I don't think we'll see good wentz.

 

Ok. Even if so.... one team? I’ll take that.

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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

My answer to why not us is that we have to find a way to beat the Patriots. And until we do it I am going to continue to doubt their ability to do it.

And that is a reasonable answer that I don't believe anyone can argue with. I do believe we have assembled a team that can do it though as long as they 1) don't shoot themselves in the foot and 2) make the most of their opportunities. 

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1 minute ago, CLTbills said:

Ok. Even if so.... one team? I’ll take that.

 

I edited.

 

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I’m going to come out and say it...

 

The Bills will be even better next year...

 

Im never concerned about the schedule in advance of the season starting..

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I edited.

 

At the end of the day... we held the GOAT to nine points.

 

I have complete faith that we can hold Dak Prescott and Lamar Jackson and Carson Wentz to under 20.

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Just now, CLTbills said:

At the end of the day... we held the GOAT to nine points.

 

I have complete faith that we can hold Dak Prescott and Lamar Jackson and Carson Wentz to under 20.

 

Yeah, they don't scare me too much either.

 

And the other thing is, only Baltimore on that list has a defense that really worries me. I know gunnerbill and some others like Dallas' defense, but I'm not impressed.

 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yeah, they don't scare me too much either.

 

And the other thing is, only Baltimore on that list has a defense that really worries me. I know gunnerbill and some others like Dallas' defense, but I'm not impressed.

 

Yeah... if they can get the offense to 21-24 ppg, I don’t know how we possibly lose a game. 

 

Yes, I know we’re not going to go 15-1 but... the point is, we will absolutely b in every single game with a shot to win. 

 

There will be no blowouts against this squad.

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I can see playoffs for sure.  As long as Josh continues to progress and the defense continues to fire on all cylinders we are making the post season.  I think the thing Josh has to figure out now, is the BB/Patriots defensive plan for him.  If he can figure that out, we could be looking at AFC East Champions.  But he's gotta figure that out.

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9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yeah, they don't scare me too much either.

 

And the other thing is, only Baltimore on that list has a defense that really worries me. I know gunnerbill and some others like Dallas' defense, but I'm not impressed.

 

That Baltimore defense has been pretty crappy thus far. They are in the 20's in total defense this year and have gotten shredded in a couple of games. Lamar Jackson worries me because of his legs and not his arm. Either way, I believe every game on our schedule is winnable where I wouldn't have had the slightest bit of confidence in saying that years past. 

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41 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I don't know if you're purposely being obtuse or if you just don't understand my point. We are 12th in the league in yards per game and we're 26th in points per game. That's because we aren't finishing drives.

That is absolutely correct. 18 drives ending in opponent' territory (15 inside the 40) with no points over the first five games. It is not all on Allen, I have looked at everyone of those drives and there is plenty of room for blame: turnovers, penalties, drops, sacks, etc. They can move the ball. Their problem has come in finishing those drives for scores.

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It has taken a long time for me in my Bills fandom (since 2002) to feel like we have the right General Manager, the right Head Coach and the right Quarterback. 

 

I don't think this is a one off like 2017. I think this is the start of a team that is going to be competitive for a decent stretch. Can they go from competitive to a Championship team? To be confirmed. 

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2 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Gotta hope everybody still says healthy but agree with the OP.  Hopefully there not gonna be happy winning 9 games and sneaking into the playoffs 

No sneaking. This defense deserves playoffs.  3rd best record in the league thanks to them. 

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Pavlov’s dog really wanted to believe, too.

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Just now, iinii said:

No sneaking. This defense deserves playoffs.  3rd best record in the league thanks to them. 

It's not as if the offense hasn't helped in any way...

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14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yeah, they don't scare me too much either.

 

And the other thing is, only Baltimore on that list has a defense that really worries me. I know gunnerbill and some others like Dallas' defense, but I'm not impressed.

 

 

Dallas's defense is good. It isn't in the conversation for best in the league in the way the Bills are... but they are 6th in yards and 7th in points. I think they will be a top 10 / top 12 defense.

 

They are very talented up front and at linebacker. They are more vulnerable in the secondary. 

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2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

I’m glad you came out , BUT are you SURE that’s all there is ??? 

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Man, this is going to feel like the longest bye week ever. I know this is important for them to rest and such. I can't wait another 10 days to see what this team does next. And then, after we play the dolphins, the game against the Eagles, could have as much hype going into it, as the Bills Vs. Patriots game did earlier.

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1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

First world problems if that scenario occurs

 

And this is so true! Good post.

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Just now, wagon127 said:

Man, this is going to feel like the longest bye week ever. I know this is important for them to rest and such. I can't wait another 10 days to see what this team does next. And that game against the Eagles could have as much hype going into it, as the Bills Vs. Patriots game did earlier.

 

I want to see them be really dominant against the Dolphins. I want to see them shut the Dolphins down (keep them below 12) and score at least 30. 

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49 minutes ago, MyDogLuvsPB said:

It's way too premature to make predictions.  However, if everything falls our way we "should' make the playoffs and at least host 1 game.  Sadly, we can't be the 1st or 2nd seed unless we win the division. 

 

1. Highest seed in any playoff game is the home team. 

2. The 6th seed can never host a game because it is always the lowest seed.

3. 5th seed will only host a game if they are playing the 6th seed.

4. The only way the 5th and 6th seeds play a playoff game against each other is if both make it to the conference championship.

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