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3 minutes ago, Bring it said:

You could be right! I don’t know about winning the division but hosting a wild card game is a definite possibility

 

Top seed in all playoff games gets home field. The only way the Bills host a playoff game as a wildcard is if the Bills were seeded 5th and make it to the AFC championship game and the 6th seed also makes it to the AFC championship game. 

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12 minutes ago, Bring it said:

You could be right! I don’t know about winning the division but hosting a wild card game is a definite possibility! With a great defense, which travels well usually. We could conceivably get to the AFC championship! What a great way to stick it to the Pats but to beat them to advance to the Super Bowl!! 

 

One can dream can’t I?

 

How are we going to host a wild-card game if we don't win the division? :)

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37 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

 

Looking at next year's schedule, basing it on how good teams are this year (yes it can all change,) it's going to be BRUTAL, with 4 road trips west. So I agree this is the year to make hay. We still haven't seen this full offense yet. Singletary will be back soon, maybe Kroft (not holding my breath.) Does Beane roll the dice and trades a high pick for that last piece of the puzzle? The "Process" says no, but the McBeanes have to see what we all see.

Just now, nedboy7 said:

Do we win the last game if dude can hit a couple FGs?

 

Yes because we were in FG range at the end.

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The Bills are sitting comfortably at 4-1, in order for me to consider and debate us winning 10 games and making the playoffs, I wanted too see us start out 6-2. 

 

Different staff, different ownership, but still the same city, same football team.  I’ve seen them collapse before, we’ve seen them collapse before.  Let’s not count our eggs before they hatch.  Let me get to 6-2 in our first 8 before I start to seriously consider this team as a playoff contender, let alone a 13-3 AFC Championship team.  4-1 hasn’t won anything yet.  It’s nothing more than a hot start affording the team a little wiggle room.  

 

 

 

EDIT:  I will admit though, I am trying my hardest to hold back a smile and grin as I type this.  Even with the above being said, they certainly have given us some reason to believe and be optimistic to this point. 

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The Bills offense needs to put up at least 21 pts a game to be taken seriously. Last year I think 21 teams averaged over 21 pts a game.

 

Right now I think I saw 18? If the Bills could average close to 25, it may be a AFC push, but under 20? We will lose games we shouldn’t.

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1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

Glad to see you've come around... 

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fart rainbows for everyone!

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48 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

Got to be honest, I see 12-13 wins.  Defense is too damn good not to.

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1 minute ago, teef said:

fart rainbows for everyone!

 

Is he out of puppies and cotton candy????

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36 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

This team will go as far as Allen takes us. With our schedule and defense, 10 wins should be the floor. If Allen can tone down the turnovers then we can beat anyone.

This is how I feel.  10 wins would be disappointing with this schedule

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7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Glad to see you've come around... 

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*high five*

 

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Is he out of puppies and cotton candy????

 

Hopefully not unicorns.

 

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We clearly have a playoff caliber defense but the offense has to score more than 18 points per game.

 

There are reasons for optimists to think the O will improve.  The OL is still gelling.  Singletary is going to start playing again.  Zay's been replaced by Duke.  Josh is going to improve as he gains in experience and as he develops chemistry with a new group of wideouts.  And so on.  

 

While I'm hopeful (Napoleon once famously said: "A Bills fan is a dealer in hope"), I don't know how much the O will improve by the end of the year.  I don't think it'll be enough for 13 wins or a deep push into the playoffs.   I hope I'm wrong.

 

 

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Wouldn't it be upsetting if the Bills won 14-15 games, and had to be a wild card and travel on the road for every playoff game? Imagine the 14-2 Bills having to travel to 10-6 Baltimore or whomever in the Wild Card round, especially if the Bills beat Baltimore in the regular season.

 

This scenario spurred a change in the NBA about 10-15 years ago. I think it was Dallas who had the 2nd best record in the conference, but had to play a tougher seed, or something like that since they did not win their division. Then they were on the road in the second round, having to play the first seed.

 

Also BS if the 14-2 Bills have to play 16-0 New England in the divisional round, instead of the AFC Championship game. In MLB, division rivals cannot meet after the Wild Card game until the League Championship Series.

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1 minute ago, egd said:

Wouldn't it be upsetting if the Bills won 14-15 games, and had to be a wild card and travel on the road for every playoff game? Imagine the 14-2 Bills having to travel to 10-6 Baltimore or whomever in the Wild Card round, especially if the Bills beat Baltimore in the regular season.

 

This seems unlikely for many reasons. 

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Agree 100%.
 

I believe this team is the 2015 Carolina Panthers

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3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

This seems unlikely for many reasons. 

 

Why? Baltimore is going to win the AFC North, and be the number 3 or 4 seed. Buffalo should win 12-14 games this year, and be second to New England, who will be 15-1 or 16-0.

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46 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Unless Allen improves and cuts down on the stupid INTs there’s no way they’ll get to 12/13 wins.  The way they are winning now is not sustainable long term.  Offense needs to find a way to score some more points.  

Not sustainable long term, but sustainable for the season. Elite defenses can win championships. It's just not easy to keep elite defenses together because:

 

1) It requires the bulk of starters to return each year.

2) Coaches can't get poached.

3) There's a lot of moving parts.

4) The cost to the cap to keep a defense together increases every year.

 

That's why it is easier to get sustained success with an elite QB, because with an elite QB you can always stay in games and put up points.

 

But if you have an elite defense you can make a run for a championship. We just have to hope that our offense can become better so that this team isn't a flash in the pan.

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11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Is he out of puppies and cotton candy????

i'd assume so.  i have a dog, and i'm not really a cotton candy  guy, so fart rainbows is a no brainer for me.

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24 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Do we win the last game if dude can hit a couple FGs?

 

Yes, since if he had made two field goals, the final score would have been Buffalo 14, Tennessee 13.

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1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

 

I think 11 minimum having thought 10 before the season. But I agree in general. This team has a shot this year. It reminds me a lot of the Jags team of two years ago. Favourable schedule, suffocating defense, QB who is inconsistent but can make plays (Bortles was at his ceiling and I think Josh is still improving) and momentum building behind them. 

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