Devin Singletary unlikely to play per Rapaport

[Estro]

Didnt expect him back this week, but was holding out some hope.  Tough news for today.  

[Frez]

I wouldn't want him back today and pull up on his first play and grab his hammy! 

 

TJ and Gore will be fine. 

 

Rest up Devin, we will need you down the stretch. 

[Locomark]

Bummer. Someone better have a longgggg talk with Yeldon about ball security ! 

[Coach Tuesday]

Ugh.

[GunnerBill]

We should have cut Yeldon this week and brought Murphy back. Prepare for some more running into the backs of his own linemen with the explosion of soggy mashed potato. 

[hemma]

Rappaport called and woke him up?

[HOUSE]

GET THE HELL OUT THERE....THIS IS A HUGE GAME

 

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Edited September 29, 2019 by HOUSE

[ny33]

Let’s hope Yeldon shows up motivated. He’s a fairly talented player who has the talent to at least have a role/impact similar to a Latavius Murray, and hopefully going from a hyped Alabama prospect/second rounder to being on the fringe of being cut after another fumble stirs something in him. I don’t think we win this game without a solid game from both RBs, and it definitely hurts to not have a healthy Singletary (or McCoy) as a change of pace/outside/ passing game threat. Don’t think we can run effectively without threatening sweeps/pitches. We have the blocking scheme and makeup/deep threat to effectively run end-arounds/sweeps from a Foster/McKenzie/Brown and have to mix it up vs. the Pats, but Gore is going to have a rough game if we can’t threaten change of pace rushing plays (o-line is pretty good at getting initial leverage/creating room for our RBs). Really wish we had McCoy right now, especially with an o-line that meshes with his skill set. 

[Coach Tuesday]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

We should have cut Yeldon this week and brought Murphy back. Prepare for some more running into the backs of his own linemen with the explosion of soggy mashed potato. 

And if Yeldon fumbles the ball away again at a critical moment, it’s going to be a BAD look for McBeane.  I really like the trajectory the team is on this year but they continue to under-prioritize the skill positions for some bizarre reason.  “Shady wouldn’t have liked a part-time role” reminds me of “Sammy isn’t a process guy.”  At some point they need to make it a priority to put talent out on the field on offense, it’s absolutely maddening.

[atlbillsfan1975]

 

RB has just become the weak area on offense and maybe the entire team. Gore and Yeldon turn the offense one dimensional for Belichick. Gore is ok, but those runs he gets 7-8 yards a good elusive back gets much more. Yeldon wasn’t used for his pass catching last week. 

For me this game just got a lot less winnable.

i do think it’s the right call to sit him and not to aggravate   Singletary’s hammy anymore. We will need him for the long haul. I really wanted to see the Bills complete offense against the NE D.

 

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, ny33 said:

Let’s hope Yeldon shows up motivated. He’s a fairly talented player who has the talent to at least have a role/impact similar to a Latavius Murray, and hopefully going from a hyped Alabama prospect/second rounder to being on the fringe of being cut after another fumble stirs something in him. I don’t think we win this game without a solid game from both RBs, and it definitely hurts to not have a healthy Singletary (or McCoy) as a change of pace/outside/ passing game threat. Don’t think we can run effectively without threatening sweeps/pitches. We have the blocking scheme and makeup/deep threat to effectively run end-arounds/sweeps from a Foster/McKenzie/Brown and have to mix it up vs. the Pats, but Gore is going to have a rough game if we can’t threaten change of pace rushing plays (o-line is pretty good at getting initial leverage/creating room for our RBs). Really wish we had McCoy right now, especially with an o-line that meshes with his skill set. 

Exactly.  Once McCoy was released it was eminently predictable, for those of us who have been following the team for the past decade, that injuries would quickly hit the running back position.  It’s the Bills’ Way.

[mikemac2001]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

And if Yeldon fumbles the ball away again at a critical moment, it’s going to be a BAD look for McBeane.  I really like the trajectory the team is on this year but they continue to under-prioritize the skill positions for some bizarre reason.  “Shady wouldn’t have liked a part-time role” reminds me of “Sammy isn’t a process guy.”  At some point they need to make it a priority to put talent out on the field on offense, it’s absolutely maddening.

look everyone would want shady over yeldon 

 

but I feel like there was a conversation that hasn’t been discussed and he wanted an opportunity to be a starter which he wouldn’t have been here and the bills respected that 

 

even tho from the outside fans are crying the bills gained respect as an organization 

 

but we don’t know what happened so crying about it doesn’t matter

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, hemma said:

Rappaport called and woke him up?

 

He must have finished his Tiny Tennis match against Arnold...or maybe Arnold is in the know...

 

 

Edited September 29, 2019 by matter2003

[thebandit27]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Slick get snaps at RB.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, ny33 said:

Let’s hope Yeldon shows up motivated. He’s a fairly talented player who has the talent to at least have a role/impact similar to a Latavius Murray, and hopefully going from a hyped Alabama prospect/second rounder to being on the fringe of being cut after another fumble stirs something in him. I don’t think we win this game without a solid game from both RBs, and it definitely hurts to not have a healthy Singletary (or McCoy) as a change of pace/outside/ passing game threat. Don’t think we can run effectively without threatening sweeps/pitches. We have the blocking scheme and makeup/deep threat to effectively run end-arounds/sweeps from a Foster/McKenzie/Brown and have to mix it up vs. the Pats, but Gore is going to have a rough game if we can’t threaten change of pace rushing plays (o-line is pretty good at getting initial leverage/creating room for our RBs). Really wish we had McCoy right now, especially with an o-line that meshes with his skill set. 

No.  He sucks

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, mikemac2001 said:

look everyone would want shady over yeldon 

 

but I feel like there was a conversation that hasn’t been discussed and he wanted an opportunity to be a starter which he wouldn’t have been here and the bills respected that 

 

even tho from the outside fans are crying the bills gained respect as an organization 

 

but we don’t know what happened so crying about it doesn’t matter

Gain respect by winning games.

[ny33]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Exactly.  Once McCoy was released it was eminently predictable, for those of us who have been following the team for the past decade, that injuries would quickly hit the running back position.  It’s the Bills’ Way.

Yeldon was actually a very solid receiving back last year- 55 catches, 70% catch rate, 487 yards (8.9 ypr). Hate having backup running backs who are constant risks for fumbles, though, especially against a disciplined team like the Pats; would almost prefer to have a guy like Ivory, who had clearly lost a step last year, but played damn hard and protected the ball/was a better receiver than everyone but Foster and late season Zay. 

[mikemac2001]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Gain respect by winning games.

And they have with the starting RBs we have put out McCoy was likely 3rd on the depth chart 

 

I’m someone who wanted to keep him and was upset at the time But I understand the move as a team McCoy wouldn’t have been happy here and it would have likely created an issue 

 

also his running style isn’t made for a play here and there he is a home run hitter and needs swings 

[ny33]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No.  He sucks

He has receiving skills and occasionally makes impact plays. I agree that a backup RB with ball protection issues and a tendency to “dance”/slight build isn’t what you want from a 5th-year backup RB. The Jags were/are a mess, though, and I do think that this team’s culture/hunger to win can and does rub off (don’t see Foster “getting it” in a Jalen Ramsey/Blake Bortles locker room vs. a relatively ego-free Bills locker room and Josh’s infectious competitive attitude). 

[HansLanda]

Still dont understand why he was even on the field when he got hurt

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, ny33 said:

He has receiving skills and occasionally makes impact plays. I agree that a backup RB with ball protection issues and a tendency to “dance”/slight build isn’t what you want from a 5th-year backup RB. The Jags were/are a mess, though, and I do think that this team’s culture/hunger to win can and does rub off (don’t see Foster “getting it” in a Jalen Ramsey/Blake Bortles locker room vs. a relatively ego-free Bills locker room and Josh’s infectious competitive attitude). 

Every RB “occasionally makes impact plays”. Literally.  Tolbert occasionally made impact plays.  He’s a meh RB that fumbles.  Makes no sense

[YoloinOhio]

Dammit

15 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Slick get snaps at RB.

Who is Slick? McKenzie?

[thebandit27]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Dammit

Who is Slick? McKenzie?

 

Yeah...no idea why I started calling him that or why I persist. Easier than typing his name on my phone maybe?

[Magox]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

And if Yeldon fumbles the ball away again at a critical moment, it’s going to be a BAD look for McBeane.  I really like the trajectory the team is on this year but they continue to under-prioritize the skill positions for some bizarre reason.  “Shady wouldn’t have liked a part-time role” reminds me of “Sammy isn’t a process guy.”  At some point they need 

It won't reflect poorly on Beane because he has shown time and time again that he has made lots of good moves for this team.  His reservoir of good will with the fanbase and more importantly ownership is high.  Also,  who knows what happened behind the scenes, remember how many people were upset with the Incognito deal?  There was more to it than what people knew until Incognito made the public aware.   Not to mention that Shady's play last year not only had he visibly dropped off but in just about every advanced metric he was near the bottom of the league.

 

Yeldon is not going to tear it up running the ball but what he will do aside from catch passes really well is pass protect and he pass protects well.  Yeldon is the 3rd back on the rotation and I have a feeling that Shady would not have wanted to be the 3rd back on the team.  Do you?  

 

 

Edited September 29, 2019 by Magox

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No.  He sucks

 

This. The guy has no ability to run through tackles. Gets knocked over with the slightest touch.  I have no idea what any team sees in him.

[ny33]

14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

And if Yeldon fumbles the ball away again at a critical moment, it’s going to be a BAD look for McBeane.  I really like the trajectory the team is on this year but they continue to under-prioritize the skill positions for some bizarre reason.  “Shady wouldn’t have liked a part-time role” reminds me of “Sammy isn’t a process guy.”  At some point they need to make it a priority to put talent out on the field on offense, it’s absolutely maddening.

Wasn’t on the board for a while until recently, but ludicrous that people would have been a “fit” issue with Watkins. He played hard, clearly demonstrated an elite skill set, and never had a QB/TE (though played with an excellent receiver in Woods and a weapon in Goodwin). Giving up an extra first for a receiver was inexcusable for a team without a QB, and too many people see Sammy as a failure in Buffalo because of the compensation relative to our draft capital investment. Maybe a change of scenery/playing for two losing teams as a top 5 pick has helped to motivate him in KC, but I’m sure he would have been open to staying here and would have helped Josh’s development/the team tremendously. It’s pathetic that we went from Watkins/Woods/Goodwin to having an undrafted rookie cut mid season be our only talent at wideout last year (+ some promising role player types like McKenzie, who looks more decisive and is a great 4th/5th option assuming he has cured his fumbleitis. 

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Every RB “occasionally makes impact plays”. Literally.  Tolbert occasionally made impact plays.  He’s a meh RB that fumbles.  Makes no sense

4 YPC/his receiving numbers are good enough for your third RB. Obviously we would be better off with McCoy, and probably should have drafted another RB in the 5th or so, but plenty of teams have just two RBs who are just serviceable enough to rotate in. Would prefer to have kept Murphy over Yeldon, and the Bengals fumble should have been the last straw, but the team obviously sees some upside if he’s still hanging on. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I would sit Singletary this week and next week. With the bye right after that, that would give him basically 3+ weeks of rest. Don’t want this hammy issue to linger all year. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

13 minutes ago, ny33 said:

Wasn’t on the board for a while until recently, but ludicrous that people would have been a “fit” issue with Watkins. He played hard, clearly demonstrated an elite skill set, and never had a QB/TE (though played with an excellent receiver in Woods and a weapon in Goodwin). Giving up an extra first for a receiver was inexcusable for a team without a QB, and too many people see Sammy as a failure in Buffalo because of the compensation relative to our draft capital investment. Maybe a change of scenery/playing for two losing teams as a top 5 pick has helped to motivate him in KC, but I’m sure he would have been open to staying here and would have helped Josh’s development/the team tremendously. It’s pathetic that we went from Watkins/Woods/Goodwin to having an undrafted rookie cut mid season be our only talent at wideout last year (+ some promising role player types like McKenzie, who looks more decisive and is a great 4th/5th option assuming he has cured his fumbleitis. 

4 YPC/his receiving numbers are good enough for your third RB. Obviously we would be better off with McCoy, and probably should have drafted another RB in the 5th or so, but plenty of teams have just two RBs who are just serviceable enough to rotate in. Would prefer to have kept Murphy over Yeldon, and the Bengals fumble should have been the last straw, but the team obviously sees some upside if he’s still hanging on. 

 

Bills fans. Pros at living in the past.

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, ny33 said:

Wasn’t on the board for a while until recently, but ludicrous that people would have been a “fit” issue with Watkins. He played hard, clearly demonstrated an elite skill set, and never had a QB/TE (though played with an excellent receiver in Woods and a weapon in Goodwin). Giving up an extra first for a receiver was inexcusable for a team without a QB, and too many people see Sammy as a failure in Buffalo because of the compensation relative to our draft capital investment. Maybe a change of scenery/playing for two losing teams as a top 5 pick has helped to motivate him in KC, but I’m sure he would have been open to staying here and would have helped Josh’s development/the team tremendously. It’s pathetic that we went from Watkins/Woods/Goodwin to having an undrafted rookie cut mid season be our only talent at wideout last year (+ some promising role player types like McKenzie, who looks more decisive and is a great 4th/5th option assuming he has cured his fumbleitis. 

4 YPC/his receiving numbers are good enough for your third RB. Obviously we would be better off with McCoy, and probably should have drafted another RB in the 5th or so, but plenty of teams have just two RBs who are just serviceable enough to rotate in. Would prefer to have kept Murphy over Yeldon, and the Bengals fumble should have been the last straw, but the team obviously sees some upside if he’s still hanging on. 

Ok, you convinced me.  Yeldon sucks 

 

I’d take Murphy over yeldon all day every day.  No question

[stevewin]

You know every time Yeldon touches the ball the Pats** are going to be trying to rip it out.  Please dear God secure the ball

[Teddy KGB]

Yikes.      Sounds like an L ??

 

A few big plays from Devin are needed to beat the Pats 

Edited September 29, 2019 by Teddy KGB

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Yikes.      Sounds like an L ??

 

A few big plays from Devin are needed to beat the Pats 

Agreed.

[JM57]

18 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

I would sit Singletary this week and next week. With the bye right after that, that would give him basically 3+ weeks of rest. Don’t want this hammy issue to linger all year. 

It would be even longer than that. The injury was 2 weeks ago today. By the time the Dolphins game rolls around it would be 5 weeks. 

[ny33]

Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Bills fans. Pros at living in the past.

I’m happy with what Beane has done with the receiving corps and don’t blame the team for letting Watkins go. Woods wanted to be home in LA, and Goodwin needs a legitimate QB/other receiving talent to be effective.

 

Just was surprised that we were comfortable with last year’s offense/Peterman as the veteran for our rookie QB out of Wyoming. Giving up a 3rd for Benjamin, who completely lacks the requisite motivation to be a professional football player, is one of Beane’s worst moves, in my book, as they should have had a much clearer sense of Benjamin’s work ethic and fall-off at the conditioning level he was in at the time of acquisition & as a Bill, plus reports that he needed a rookie to tell him where to line up. 

 

The past offseason’s moves are shaping up to be the most impactful and shrewd of any team. Brown is good enough, in my book, to be the best WR on a Super Bowl team; he’s bounced back better from adversity (health issues in Arizona) and was playing extremely well for Baltimore; shocked that he didn’t cost 2-3x more and receive more offers. The o-line has quality starters at backup prices, above-average depth, and no players who shouldn’t be starting in the NFL (compared to a number of past lines with 1-3 starters who barely belonged on a roster). 

 

Watkins is in the team’s past, and Beasley/Brown were clearly the right fits/targets. If he’s healthy, having Foster in a backup role to Brown/additional deep threat in a two-minute offense is a real asset, even if he doesn’t put up the quietly top-32 numbers that he did in Brown’s role last year, which was crucial to Allen’s development. This is the first year that I can see the team being able to afford drafting the best available luxury/mismatch player (especially in a great WR draft) unless they have concerns with the o-line. 

 

[fansince88]

TJ fumbled 6 times in 473 attempts. Fred Jackson had 1305 attempts and 16  fumbles. We didnt want him gone. Give the kid a chance to play and see what hapens. 

[Virgil]

4 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

TJ fumbled 6 times in 473 attempts. Fred Jackson had 1305 attempts and 16  fumbles. We didnt want him gone. Give the kid a chance to play and see what hapens. 

If he fumbles once in this game, he’s dead to me

[JoPar_v2]

I would rather they not rush Motor back with an early bye. Record’s already good will probably need him down the line

[H2o]

It's better to have him fully healthy for the long term than to rush him back and risk further injury. I was hoping the kid could go though. Yeldon better hold onto the ball today. 

Edited September 29, 2019 by H2o

[fansince88]

6 minutes ago, Virgil said:

If he fumbles once in this game, he’s dead to me

Both fumbles in reg and pre season he reached out to pick up yards. He shouldnt be doing that. Protect the ball.

I agree with you but lets see if he can move the ball instead of consider him to have already lost the game for us right?

3 minutes ago, H2o said:

It's better to have him fully healthy for the long term than to rush him back and risk further injury. I was hoping the kid could go though. Yeldon better hold onto the ball today. 

I was thinking about that yesterday. To sacrifice this game fr the season it is worth it. That said...lets beat these guys and test that "great D".

Edited September 29, 2019 by fansince88

[formerlyofCtown]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

And if Yeldon fumbles the ball away again at a critical moment, it’s going to be a BAD look for McBeane.  I really like the trajectory the team is on this year but they continue to under-prioritize the skill positions for some bizarre reason.  “Shady wouldn’t have liked a part-time role” reminds me of “Sammy isn’t a process guy.”  At some point they need to make it a priority to put talent out on the field on offense, it’s absolutely maddening.

Though I was not happy to see Shady cut I dont agree with your take on our skill positions.

Edited September 29, 2019 by formerlyofCtown