Bills QB Josh Allen becoming a must-watch player

[MJS]

Bills QB Josh Allen maturing, becoming a must-watch player
By Mike Giardi

"The Buffalo Bills and their rabid fan base got the full Josh Allen experience this past Sunday in a 21-17 win over Cincinnati. The second-year quarterback threw an ill-advised third-quarter interception that opened the door for the visiting Bengals to climb out of a 14-point hole and eventually take the lead in a game they had no business winning.

But Allen's desire to always make something happen came to fruition late in the fourth quarter, when the dual-threat signal-caller operated coolly from the pocket for completions of 7 and 49 yards, then turned to his legs, running three times in a four-play span (gains of 6, 8 and 7) to set up Frank Gore's game-winning 1-yard plunge with just under two minutes left in the game. The win, in front of the New Era Field faithful, improved the Bills to 3-0, their best start since the 2011 season."

...

"Despite his carelessness at times, Allen has become a must-watch player in this league, one Patriots assistant coach and former All-Pro linebacker Jerod Mayo compared to former NFL star Michael Vick, minus the 4.3-second 40 speed. The 23-year-old is growing, as he should be, with just 14 professional starts under his belt. His rookie season was a roller coaster, but his late-season performance was one that had Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll optimistic when I spoke with him about Allen at the scouting combine in February. You can see why Daboll was (and still is) excited. Allen has a unique blend of athleticism, fearlessness and an arm that just about every other quarterback in the league would trade their own for."

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001059396/article/bills-qb-josh-allen-maturing-becoming-a-mustwatch-player

 

I agree that Allen is must-watch football, and that didn't start this year. Coming back from injury last year he became a must-watch player because of his big play ability, great athleticism, and competitive, gamer style of play. He's continued that this year. You just never know when he will make a big play. 3rd and long is not as daunting as it used to be.

The entire nation will be keyed in to this game and it gives Allen a chance to really leave an impression with people. Let's hope he rises to the challenge.

[yall]

Sadly, as a Bills fan even Craig Nall constitutes as "must watch". ?

[Apocalypse Nuts]

Remember the old days when you could have the QB with the cannon arm but couldn't run to save his life?  (looking at you Drew Bledsoe)  Allen is truly always must-watch.  He must really piss of D-linemen who think they've got him dead-to-rights only to see him slip out and spin away time and again.

 

What was the old joke about Bledsoe?  Something like: What runs faster?  Drew Bledsoe or a cardboard cutout of Drew Bledsoe?  I forget the answer but you get it.  Was so true though.  Josh Allen ain't no statue and he actually throws farther than Bledsoe! 

 

 

 

 

[zow2]

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

[MJS]

19 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

Key word is "becoming"

 

EDIT: And I'll add that if other football fans are missing out on Allen, that's their problem. Doesn't change the fact that Allen is fun to watch. He SHOULD be considered "must-watch"

Edited September 27, 2019 by MJS

[atlbillsfan1975]

Allen has the physical talent. He also possesses the work ethic and desire to be great. Allen is showing this year he can get better. He has shown it since he came back from the injury last year. It’s exciting times to be a Bills fan and Allen is a big reason why.

Edited September 27, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, yall said:

Sadly, as a Bills fan even Craig Nall constitutes as "must watch". ?

 

The Bills are undefeated, have a top 10 offense, and a top 5 defense. Seems like good football to me, even compared to other good teams.

[yall]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

 

The Bills are undefeated, have a top 10 offense, and a top 5 defense. Seems like good football to me, even compared to other good teams.

My (slightly sarcastic) point was, as a Bills fan I'm watching regardless of who is under center. It's not meant to be a dig at Allen.

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

The anticipation of knowing he's capable of pushing the ball downfield for chunk plays no matter the down/distance, is what for me is so different from our previous signal callers during the drought--Kelly brought that same positive unpredictability, but minus his own running component. 

[MJS]

1 minute ago, yall said:

My (slightly sarcastic) point was, as a Bills fan I'm watching regardless of who is under center. It's not meant to be a dig at Allen.

 

I gotcha, but fans usually watch their team regardless. I think the point is that fans of other teams are beginning to see Allen as an exciting player to watch regardless of fan loyalty.

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

The anticipation of knowing he's capable of pushing the ball downfield for chunk plays no matter the down/distance, is what for me is so different from our previous signal callers during the drought--Kelly brought that same positive unpredictability, but minus his own running component. 

Absolutely. So sick of the check down QB's that are scared to throw an INT. Tyrod was a decent QB, but his hesitance to throw the ball was maddening ALL the time. So glad we have a guy who has to rein it in instead of being coaxed by the coaches to take more chances.

[John from Riverside]

12 minutes ago, Distorted One said:

Remember the old days when you could have the QB with the cannon arm but couldn't run to save his life?  (looking at you Drew Bledsoe)  Allen is truly always must-watch.  He must really piss of D-linemen who think they've got him dead-to-rights only to see him slip out and spin away time and again.

 

What was the old joke about Bledsoe?  Something like: What runs faster?  Drew Bledsoe or a cardboard cutout of Drew Bledsoe?  I forget the answer but you get it.  Was so true though.  Josh Allen ain't no statue and he actually throws farther than Bledsoe! 

 

 

 

 

To me right now the offensive line improvement in pass protection is a mirage.....Josh Allen and his ability to move is making them look better then they are.....

 

Which I expected at the beginining of the season...the OL has been almost entirely changed and need time to gel....but right now it is what it is

[Chandler#81]

15 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

That’s your opinion, and

 

[MJS]

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

To me right now the offensive line improvement in pass protection is a mirage.....Josh Allen and his ability to move is making them look better then they are.....

 

Which I expected at the beginining of the season...the OL has been almost entirely changed and need time to gel....but right now it is what it is

Hmm, but Allen's ability to extend plays and his habit of holding onto the ball to let plays develop also makes the oline look worse than it is. Kind of a double edged sword.

 

To me it's pretty clear that the offensive line is loads better than last year. Doesn't mean they are really good or even above average, but they are better than last year for sure. It will still take a few more off seasons to get it up to what it should be.

[TigerJ]

16 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

He still has to overcome the negative reputation his substandard college preparation gave him coming into the league.  It'll happen eventually.

[John from Riverside]

19 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

I live in California and you are wrong....lots of talk of Josh Allen all the way across the US map

 

And he doesnt need to beat the team that is destroying everyone else to change that......

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Hmm, but Allen's ability to extend plays and his habit of holding onto the ball to let plays develop also makes the oline look worse than it is. Kind of a double edged sword.

 

To me it's pretty clear that the offensive line is loads better than last year. Doesn't mean they are really good or even above average, but they are better than last year for sure. It will still take a few more off seasons to get it up to what it should be.

To me the holding onto the ball is him trying to get the big play with his cannon arm.....for better or worse.

 

Lately he has been VERY efficent with his passes.....which is probably because of Cole Beaslely

[mykidsdad]

I think waiting for this game is giving me an ulcer.

Edited September 27, 2019 by mykidsdad

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

there is HYPE and then there is too much HYPE 

 

 

Get your feet back on the ground fellow Bills Fans 

 

if the Bills get crushed . It won't look good.

 

There is still things Josh needs to polish up 

Edited September 27, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[Charles Romes]

He basically willed the ball across the goal line to beat the the Bengals. 

[freddyjj]

29 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

So were you asked to leave WNY, and,  in accordance with customs,  escorted to the county line?

[John from Riverside]

Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said:

if the Bills get crushed . It won't look good.

You mean like every other NFL team in the league

 

Look I think we have a chance.....but I am not hanging how I feel about this team on a game where the other team is DESTROYING teams right now......

[Klaus]

I am going to define "must watch" in my own terms.

 

On 3rd and long, I no longer have to look away knowing another punt is coming, instead I watch to see what sort of magic Josh pulls off when the DEs are coming at him with their ears pinned back. 

 

 

[ALLEN1QB]

Wonder how many prime-time games Buffalo gets next year

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Wonder how many prime-time games Buffalo gets next year

 

Hopefully none. Primetime football sucks, IMO.

 

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Hopefully none. Primetime football sucks, IMO.

 

And so do the bills usually when they are on it.

[Pokebball]

48 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

Josh has a pretty decent following among the MWC schools that he played in and against - California, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Idaho.  I go to many MWC games and Josh is brought up from opposing fans all of the time.  They are watching and following him.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

23 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

You mean like every other NFL team in the league

 

Look I think we have a chance.....but I am not hanging how I feel about this team on a game where the other team is DESTROYING teams right now......

 

I'm hoping for a Bills WIN and think they can win it.  

 

Time will tell my friend 

 

22 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Wonder how many prime-time games Buffalo gets next year

 

Other than contracted local markets .  Bills Pats IS a national game.  Not prime time but a must see in terms of ...

 

Are the Bills for real or are the Pats* falling apart (for real this time) 

[warrior9]

57 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

I also don't live in WNY anymore and I can tell you that Josh Allen is must-watch. All of my co-workers mention, "You must be excited about the Bills and Josh Allen." It's not just "The Bills" anymore... it's "The bills and Josh Allen"

[Seasons1992]

1 hour ago, yall said:

Sadly, as a Bills fan even Craig Nall constitutes as "must watch". ?

 

36 minutes ago, mykidsdad said:

I think waiting for this game is giving me an ulcer.

 

I'm so incredibly nervous also.

[klos63]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

I don't live in WNY anymore, but I can tell you that Josh Allen is not yet a must-watch amongst the average NFL fan.  He's not talked about much outside of WNY or the hardcore NFL media types.   People know of him, but they aren't fascinated by Josh Allen like they are Baker or Lamar Jackson...or now Daniel Jones.    If Josh looks great this weekend and the Bills beat New England, that will change. 

I live in AZ, all my football fan friends are very aware of Allen, and knew of him coming out of college. Some told me we got the best QB in the draft. I think you are wrong, most fans know most players, especially the QB's.

[CLTbills]

1 hour ago, yall said:

Sadly, as a Bills fan even Craig Nall constitutes as "must watch". ?

Don't forget about Gibran Hamdan!

[MJS]

47 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

there is HYPE and then there is too much HYPE 

 

 

Get your feet back on the ground fellow Bills Fans 

 

if the Bills get crushed . It won't look good.

 

There is still things Josh needs to polish up 

 

What do you think in this article or the comments in the thread are inaccurate or "too much hype"? These are all just observations. Nobody is saying that Allen is an elite QB. Nobody is saying the Bills will win the Superbowl. But Allen IS an exciting player to watch and the Bills ARE undefeated and look to be on the right track towards consistent success.

I haven't seen a single poster, even the ones that think we are going to beat the Patriots on Sunday and win 12+ games this year, who have claimed that Allen is a finished product or does not have things to "polish up".

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

I gotcha, but fans usually watch their team regardless. I think the point is that fans of other teams are beginning to see Allen as an exciting player to watch regardless of fan loyalty.

Absolutely. So sick of the check down QB's that are scared to throw an INT. Tyrod was a decent QB, but his hesitance to throw the ball was maddening ALL the time. So glad we have a guy who has to rein it in instead of being coaxed by the coaches to take more chances.

 

That was exactly my issue with Tyrod.  Even when he needed to take chances throwing he didn't.  In fact he regressed from when he was starter and usually that is coach telling him not to take chances.

[Da webster guy]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

You mean like every other NFL team in the league

 

Look I think we have a chance.....but I am not hanging how I feel about this team on a game where the other team is DESTROYING teams right now......

 

Baltimore scored 49 on Miami and it could have been more if they hadn't let up in the 4th.    Doesn't mean they're great.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, mykidsdad said:

I think waiting for this game is giving me an ulcer.

Can ya say anxiety, cause I sure as hell can... but I’m cool ?, no really...?

 

 

 

Go Bills!!!

[Punching Bag]

50 minutes ago, klos63 said:

I live in AZ, all my football fan friends are very aware of Allen, and knew of him coming out of college. Some told me we got the best QB in the draft. I think you are wrong, most fans know most players, especially the QB's.

 

They know the Cardinals choose the wrong Josh.

 

Interesting comment from person at work:  He was surprised Josh Allen did not get the Angry Run award against Bengals and he expected him to get it every week since he seems to want to mix it up with defense.  I asked if he watched this week and he said "No, just saw name of winner." "That is our rookie TE who caught a ball from him."  "Oh" was his response.

[RochesterLifer]

2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Allen has the physical talent. He also possesses the brainpower, humility, work ethic and desire to be great. Allen is showing this year he can get better. He has shown it since he came back from the injury last year. It’s exciting times to be a Bills fan and Allen is a big reason why.

Your statement is precisely where I sit with Allen right now. This is indeed, a very exciting time. I added a couple of traits that I think are important, and complete this well. I hope you don't mind. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, yall said:

Sadly, as a Bills fan even Craig Nall constitutes as "must watch". ?

 

....yup....Holcomb & Hamdan were watchin'...NOBODY else........

[HOUSE]

Only 3 things I ask

 

#1 On the Patriots 30, 4th and 1 Do not kick field goals against this team

#2 The Patriots will make adjustments at half time, change it up

#3 Do not give the ball to Tom Brady with 1:23 left in the 4th, in a 6 point game, we will lose. Brady launches those long passes looking for pass interference. Oldest trick in the book....

 

..

Edited September 27, 2019 by HOUSE

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Only 3 things I ask

 

#1 On the Patriots 30, 4th and 1 Do not kick field goals against this team-"no guts no glory...no bawls no blue chips."...go for it....

#2 The Patriots will make adjustments at half time, change it up-Daboll & Frazier better have alternate Plans B& C ready; Belichick is THE "master of adjustments" IMO

#3 Do not give the ball to Tom Brady with 1:23 left in the 4th, we will lose.-give it to him then when we're up by 10 so his feelings aren't hurt about our "W"

 

...and I have responded to the "HOUSE Wish List"...........

Edited September 27, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...and I have responded to the "HOUSE Wish List"...........

#3. Didn't we do this on the Sunday night game and lose 25-24?

 

It might have been more time but I don't feel like it was a lot more. Maybe 4ish minutes left to play? 

Edited September 27, 2019 by The Wiz