bigK14094 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, BisonMan said: I do think Bills’ fans overrate Barkley based on a single game. However, there is no way a lot of those QBs on the list, many who have never played in an NFL game, are better than Barkley. In reading that list, I’d put him above at least half of the names on that list. Bridgewater is likely the best but with such small or non-existent sample sizes, Barkley would have to be in the top 10, IMHO. Barkley looked great in the preseason, and was in training camp, so he is fully indoctrinated in the offense. He is top half, anyhow, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, BisonMan said: Apparently, according to the USA Today: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/09/25/nfl-backup-qb-rankings-teams-jets-cowboys-giants/2360551001/ Pouring it on, they list Tyrod as the 3rd best backup in the league! Tyrod???? 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Remind me tomorrow to get upset about this, Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Stupid, subjective, lazy click bait. Don't take the bait people, just ignore this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in Beantown Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I think the article can sum up national media relative to the Bills. They don't watch any tape or do any research, but he's on the Bills so obviously he must be the worst in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, ngbills said: AJM was traded for a pick. Barkley didnt have a job. Lets be real. Barkley was all set to be Dalton's backup but got hurt in PS. He was released with an injury settlement. As soon as he was healthy, the Bills picked him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I read a fantasy post regarding the patriots number 3 wideout on how he should have a big day because the bills secondary has been giving up a lot of points to wrs this year. Apparently anyone can give a write up about fantasy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Who would have thunk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Bills2ref said: First, who takes the time to rank the back up QB’s of the league? If there were any out there who could step in and win with any frequency then they wouldn’t be a back up. Precisely. I always say the Bills made the playoffs that year in spite of Tyrod, not because of. Writers will always look for underreported subjects, no matter how trivial they may seem or how poorly researched they are. Silly question. Barkley’s probably around an average backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Barkley was all set to be Dalton's backup but got hurt in PS. He was released with an injury settlement. As soon as he was healthy, the Bills picked him He was getting beat out for the job. He was going to be cut if he didnt get hurt. Back ups are mostly what they are - guys most teams hope does not start. Some teams have back ups that were in the mix to be starter, some have guys that were starters. Barkley for many years now has not been in any conversation about being an nfl starter. Decent back up to have but if Allen went down long term I would hope the bills explore other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I'm comfortable with Barkley as backup, it's hard to judge backups really. But it's interesting how many Bills fans react to him. He's played 1 game for us, and did well, but that's it. Other than that , his career hasn't been any good. I didn't read the article but i'll have to assume they are basing the rankings , in part, on the players entire career, which in Barkley's case isn't any good up until now. But it's a silly exercise in ranking players that rarely play, rarely practice with first teamer's, don't have game plans made around their strengths.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I didn’t click on it. Not giving USA Today anymore than it deserves. Honesty if they even glanced at Barkley’s stats from last year they would see he is a capable backup. I’d dare say Barkley is the perfect backup for this team and Allen. Barkley seems to be comfortable with the role and enjoys the team and city. Barkley is at the place where he realizes he can hang around for another 7-10 years as a back up. Heck Barkley can be Josh’s ‘ Frank Reich’. Barkley knows this system better than anybody and if called upon, he can play within the limits of said system. I really don't wanna see Barkley play though. Here is to keeping Allen healthy the rest of his career. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Virgil said: I’d take Barkley to start for us than anyone on the Dolphins period. I would probably take Barkley over the Giants' second ranked backup,Eli Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 USA today is the most generic place in this world where you can get sports news..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Don't see the Bills backup QB as much of a concern as their starter yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Agree that it's not worth a click. He looked good in pre-season as well. I'm happy to have him as our #2, but hey, I'll be thrilled if we never found out how he'd do in the regular season. So please stop calling all the QB draws! We need JA healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) No issue with Tyrod at 3. He has a winning record as a QB, went to the playoffs and never turns it over. I’m not sure how anyone could object to that being near the top of the league for a #2? Barkley below Geno is bad. I actually think Barkley is a little overrated by us and WAY underrated around the country. He’s a middle of the road backup at this point and seems to be ascending IMO. Edited September 26, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No issue with Tyrod at 3. He has a winning record as a QB, went to the playoffs and never turns it over. I’m not sure how anyone could object to that being near the top of the league for a #2? Barkley below Geno is bad IMO. I actually think Barkley is a little overrated by us and WAY underrated around the country. He’s a middle of the road backup at this point and seems to be ascending IMO. And lost his starting job twice. (Thrice?) Once for a 5 INT Nate Peterman!!! that's how bad it was!!! To Rookies no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: And lost his starting job twice. (Thrice?) Once for a 5 INT Nate Peterman!!! that's how bad it was!!! To Rookies no less. Without being rude that’s a pretty stupid take. He has a winning record with like a 45 game sample size!! Outside of Eli I don’t think there’s a guy on the list that boasts that resume. He scores 2 or 3 times as often as he turns it over!! He is ABSOLUTELY near the top of the league as a backup. Anyone that argues otherwise is arguing with their heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Without being rude that’s a pretty stupid take. He has a winning record with like a 45 game sample size!! Outside of Eli I don’t think there’s a guy on the list that boasts that resume. He scores 2 or 3 times as often as he turns it over!! He is ABSOLUTELY near the top of the league as a backup. Anyone that argues otherwise is arguing with their heart. Without being rude, (seriously) IMO giving Tyrod too much credit is a stupid take as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 More mind boggling? Drew Stanton has played 13 years of NFL football and has amassed 32 Million dollars for appearing in 38 games. I'd rather be him than Tom Brady. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 7 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Fake News Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Without being rude, (seriously) IMO giving Tyrod too much credit is a stupid take as well. Saying he’s the 3rd best backup isn’t “giving him too much credit.” It’s objectively comparing what the player has accomplished to what the others on the list have. @Gugny HATES Tyrod and even he admitted that. That’s not even close to a hot take. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Gugny said: I am light years away from being any kind of Tyrod fan, but I do think he's among the best backups in the league. However, putting Kizer and Eugene Smiff above any backup with a pulse makes this list crap. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: More mind boggling? Drew Stanton has played 13 years of NFL football and has amassed 32 Million dollars for appearing in 38 games. I'd rather be him than Tom Brady. FACT!! Chase Daniel is another good one. He has made $34.3M and started 4 games in his career!! It pays to be friend with Drew Brees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: FACT!! Chase Daniel is another good one. He has made $34.3M and started 4 games in his career!! It pays to be friend with Drew Brees. Yea. Why did anyone ever think he was good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: And lost his starting job twice. (Thrice?) Once for a 5 INT Nate Peterman!!! that's how bad it was!!! To Rookies no less. And Barkley has been cut how many times? And losing his job to Peterman is on the coach not Tyrod, that was a horrible decision. Tyrod had the opportunity to start because he is better than most of those guys on the list hence #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Saying he’s the 3rd best backup isn’t “giving him too much credit.” It’s objectively comparing what the player has accomplished to what the others on the list have. @Gugny HATES Tyrod and even he admitted that. That’s not even close to a hot take. I dislike Tyrod too. I don't have Gug hate but I was adamant he was a below average starter when some were arguing borderline franchise guy. That said he is a premium backup. He is somewhere between the 28th and 36th best QB in the world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. Why did anyone ever think he was good? He’s one of Brees’ best friends. They compete in EVERYTHING. He played pretty well in preseason and is smart. Brees loves him. He parlayed that into nice checks in KC, Philly and Chicago. He even had another stop here to raise his value again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Fine with Matt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 hours ago, BisonMan said: Apparently, according to the USA Today: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/09/25/nfl-backup-qb-rankings-teams-jets-cowboys-giants/2360551001/ Pouring it on, they list Tyrod as the 3rd best backup in the league! i'm not going any farther than this. there's actually times where i think we have a better chance of winning with barkley.....and i wouldn't be opposed to a change if it meant a playoff chance or not. josh is in yr. 2, he doesn't have to be mahomes, he doesn't have those weapons....and i don't want him hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Not at the bottom and not at the top. Ranking him last is laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, ngbills said: And Barkley has been cut how many times? And losing his job to Peterman is on the coach not Tyrod, that was a horrible decision. Tyrod had the opportunity to start because he is better than most of those guys on the list hence #3. The Buffalo Bills do not want a Tyrod run style offense. What good does it do to have two styles of QB on your roster. At least Barkley can run the offense and IMO better than most of our former QBs (most recently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Gugny said: I am light years away from being any kind of Tyrod fan, but I do think he's among the best backups in the league. However, putting Kizer and Eugene Smiff above any backup with a pulse makes this list crap. I agree. Barkley is a complete nobody. He can't be in any meaningful way be compared with TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Am I the only one that wants to see the patriots back up play the next 11 3/4 games ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Am I the only one that wants to see the patriots back up play the next 11 3/4 games ? I would never wish harm on anyone (yes I would) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree. Barkley is a complete nobody. He can't be in any meaningful way be compared with TT. I think they are comparable. But TT is the better QB. Not by a lot. He's still a back up (and always should have been). Eh ... we got a 3rd round pick for him, so I'll give him (actually Beane) that!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think they are comparable. But TT is the better QB. Not by a lot. He's still a back up (and always should have been). Eh ... we got a 3rd round pick for him, so I'll give him (actually Beane) that!! It's easy to be a solid QB. when you never have to play. Barkley has no body of work to compare. He's an imaginary number. A fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree. Barkley is a complete nobody. He can't be in any meaningful way be compared with TT. He’s better than Matt LineArt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: He’s better than Matt LineArt ? Zing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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