GoBills808 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chris66 said: That moneyline looks like vegas isnt sold on the Bills just yet. Thats a lot different than the spread they put out. Thats not to say Bills havent improved. I expected a -225 on the Pats. I called that +7.5 open Sunday right after Bills game ended (think it was actually 6 and jumped right to 7), but ML says to me they expect $$ coming in on Bills to thin Pats -320 and recover from there...unless sharps know something I don't there's just no way they get much action there, I don't see the value tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I called that +7.5 open Sunday right after Bills game ended (think it was actually 6 and jumped right to 7), but ML says to me they expect $$ coming in on Bills to thin Pats -320 and recover from there...unless sharps know something I don't there's just no way they get much action there, I don't see the value tbh No no no, you are doing this wrong, you are supposed to bet 5k AGAINST the bills to ensure a victory! Didnt you learn anything last year from the Vikings game???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I called that +7.5 open Sunday right after Bills game ended (think it was actually 6 and jumped right to 7), but ML says to me they expect $$ coming in on Bills to thin Pats -320 and recover from there...unless sharps know something I don't there's just no way they get much action there, I don't see the value tbh Nope not on the Pats, but that +265 is very tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 We will see where our team is Sunday. They have played three pretty easy teams so far. I think we're heading in the right direction but unfortunately I see this game a blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Take a look at that "tickets as low as column". https://www.espn.com/nfl/schedule/_/week/4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Juice_32 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is not insignificant, he is a huge piece to their run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: The Patriots faced 3 of the worst offenses in football. The Bills did not. The Giants and Bengals had put up a lot of offensive production before they faced the Bills. Debating is useless though. We'll see how the teams fare against each other next Sunday. I'd be a fool to bet against Tom Brady and the Patriots, though. And, not for nothing, the Jets were not depleted as they are now, and had legitimate playoff aspirations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 NOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Dude evaluates pizza slices for a living. You’re gonna throw shade at pres ? He sold 50% of barstool sports for 15 mil ???? Lmao at an attempted diss Edited September 23, 2019 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris66 said: Nope not on the Pats, but that +265 is very tempting. I obviously felt the same??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris66 said: That moneyline looks like vegas isnt sold on the Bills just yet. Thats a lot different than the spread they put out. Thats not to say Bills havent improved. I expected a -225 on the Pats. The money line is based on trying to get half the bettors on each side- it is not an indicator of what Vegas thinks will happen. With that said the lines are mostly accurate because people are usually staying away from wild lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: The money line is based on trying to get half the bettors on each side- it is not an indicator of what Vegas thinks will happen. With that said the lines are mostly accurate because people are usually staying away from wild lines. Not going to get much play on the pats at -365. I would rather take the spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hit Brady early and often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Hit Brady early and often. Amen. I would like to see our D double cover and jam Edelman at the line on every play. Take a page out of BB's book, take away their biggest threat. And then also every so often single cover man to man the WRs and send everyone else after Brady on a jail break reddogblitz. One thing I know for certain is that if we only rush 3 or 4 and try to cover everyone, Tommy will eat our lunch. Seen it way too many times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Patriots have not scored less than 30 this season. The have given up an average of 5.7 pts per game. The most the Bills have scored is 28. The have given up an average of 17 points per game. The money line will get action where it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: You’re gonna throw shade at pres ? He sold 50% of barstool sports for 15 mil ???? Lmao at an attempted diss So what I should lick the guy’s boot because he’s wealthy? Typical Ryan L Bilz blue collar hero worship. I don’t care what his deal is, he’s not very informed about sports. He’s just the guy at the end of the bar. Idolizing people because they’re rich is the kind of thing that gets idiots and lunatics elected to high office. Is that a better attempt at a dis? Edited September 23, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ctk232 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Juice_32 said: I worry most about the pats* RB's catching passes all day. Surprised I've only seen this mentioned once - while I agree with the other posts regarding the pass rush, one thing we've all seen from the Pats all too many times are the screens and delayed checks to the flats utilizing every single RB on their roster. Cover1 has been beating this dead horse since the end of last season, but one of Edmund's biggest criticisms is he isn't great at shedding blocks to cover RB screens/throws to the flats, or plays to the boundary. Of course, in the scheme of his entire game coupled with his age I have nothing but upside on him and his future with us, but this is to Edmund's what accuracy was/is for Josh. If we can minimize the chunk plays and 1st downs the screen/flat game has given the Pats in our previous matchups - I think we'll see a more even-keeled game. Belly will test our LB core with this in conjunction with short spacing routes to attempt to slow their reads on the screen/flat plays (a la Mixon chunk play from yesterday). 9 hours ago, thebandit27 said: I think that the problem for Buffalo is the matchup of WRs vs secondary. Gilmore will probably draw Smoke and is capable of limiting him significantly. That likely means that Beasley draws a bracket inside and Zay/Foster/Slick draw 1-1s. If the Bills want to score consistent points against NE, they're going to have to hit big plays to their backs and TEs early and often and force NE to adjust. Gotta second the love for this analysis as well. If I may offer a counter to this however - I too think Belly matches Gilmore to Smoke in man coverage most of this game, and considering the Pats play a week-to-week defensive scheme, I'd like to see us balance mesh concepts (maybe even some Hank with Knox) with spacing landmark curls/crosses and outs for zone beaters, early and often. There are ways to stretch their secondary, but none of this matters if we can't 1) provide consistent pass protection to let 10-15+ yard concepts develop, and 2) NFL 101: establish a run game. To the first, assuming Feliciano is out this week, I won't expect much from our right side - I mentioned this in a response in another thread, but if it's known to us as an issue, it's known to the Belly. My completely speculative guess is he will likely be planning to generate most of the pass rush with 4 man rushes to avoid sacrificing an extra guy in coverage. Perhaps moving Bennett/Winovich to the left side with offset rushes/stunts, and likely with Van Noy/Hightower either providing delayed rush pressure/spying on Josh to contain his running. Heck, I'm not sold on our left side with Dawkins either - a safety blitz or two could be dialed up against him off the edge. Unless we can execute the second point and establish a run game to open up more passing concepts, those short throw spread options will likely be our bread and butter early on for moving the ball and converting 1st downs. To the second point, PLEASE let Singletary be available. I don't mean this as a knock on Gore in the slightest, but man, what having a power/finesse back combo does to a defense scheming pass coverage/pass rush along with a big yet mobile QB. While clearly less effective in pass pro this past week, I hope our OL can continue it's run blocking successes (likely in Feliciano's absence). Ford has been less of a glaring outlier in the run game in comparison to his pass pro, so I hope we can use him and Morse in more of the pin and peel runs that helped us in week's 1 and 2. The ability to demand a defense to respect the interior and outside runs will take all the more pressure off of Allen to create the opportunities needed to win, and hopefully alleviate our OL concerns at the same time. There's always something to add/counter to every analysis, but I like the attitude this team has internally developed. Being home dogs feeds into it and as long as they play within themselves and don't bite the penalty bug with the overhype (always gotta account for the Brady-ref factor), this will be a great game to watch. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: So what I should lick the guy’s boot because he’s wealthy? Typical Ryan L Bilz blue collar hero worship. I don’t care what his deal is, he’s not very informed about sports. He’s just the guy at the end of the bar. Idolizing people because they’re rich is the kind of thing that gets idiots and lunatics elected to high office. Is that a better attempt at a dis? Nope and LoL at bringing the real president into this too ???. Portnoy racks up the W’s and sits front row for all of the sports. He’s better at everything than you but hey you tried ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Nope and LoL at bringing the real president into this too ???. Portnoy racks up the W’s and sits front row for all of the sports. He’s better at everything than you but hey you tried ?? Lol what are you his ball boy? Such a pathetic display of internet sucking up, even for you. Edited September 23, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Nope and LoL at bringing the real president into this too ???. Portnoy racks up the W’s and sits front row for all of the sports. He’s better at everything than you but hey you tried ?? Except ... oh noes! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Lol what are you his ball boy? Such a pathetic display of internet sucking up, even for you. He’s entertaining, you’re not. He’s a millionaire. You’re not Maybe you can ask him for a few bucks at the game this weekend. It might make you less angry and judgemental ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Portnoy is funny watch the video of security trying to find him at the super bowl lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 No James Develin on Sunday!! This is a big blow to Pats run game. Beware of the two back set with James White leaking out the backfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Nope and LoL at bringing the real president into this too ???. Portnoy racks up the W’s and sits front row for all of the sports. He’s better at everything than you but hey you tried ?? I don't know this guy from Adam, but sitting in the front row is the worst place to be for most sports, unless your only goal is to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, the skycap said: No James Develin on Sunday!! This is a big blow to Pats run game. Beware of the two back set with James White leaking out the backfield It really isn't. The Patriots are going to pass 50 times. Half will go to RB's. I fear this will be a horrible matchup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: It really isn't. The Patriots are going to pass 50 times. Half will go to RB's. I fear this will be a horrible matchup You might be right. Milano and Edmunds best be ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: It really isn't. The Patriots are going to pass 50 times. Half will go to RB's. I fear this will be a horrible matchup You can watch the Pats games vs McDermott and Fraiser’s D from last year and see what kind of matchup it will be . The personnel is basically the same at least on our end. Their offense scored 18 at New Era and 24 in Foxborough. Edited September 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, the skycap said: You might be right. Milano and Edmunds best be ready I am admittedly jaded. I'm not feeling confident at all in their chances this Sunday. Really hope I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I don't think we'll win but I like us to cover. McD will bring the kitchen sink in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, driddles said: I don't know this guy from Adam, but sitting in the front row is the worst place to be for most sports, unless your only goal is to be seen. Except in hoops or hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You can watch the Pats games vs McDermott and Fraiser’s D from last year and see what kind of matchup it will be . The personnel is basically the same at least on our end. Their offense scored 18 at New Era and 24 in Foxborough. The defense in that MNF game was really impressive. They played out of their minds for about 3.5 quarters. There were about 30 other qb’s in the nfl that could have taken us to a victory that night. One was sitting on our sideline with a bum elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: The defense in that MNF game was really impressive. They played out of their minds for about 3.5 quarters. There were about 30 other qb’s in the nfl that could have taken us to a victory that night. One was sitting on our sideline with a bum elbow. It was so excruciating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I think NE wins...something like 27-6......I don't think there's that much of a gap in talent per say ( although their D is staked ).....it's more, IMO having Belichick getting a plan together to get to... and confuse Josh.....I see him digging in the archives and use a Defensive approach similar to what he used to do when playing a young Big Ben....I think he's going to try to bring the hammer down on our 2nd year QB...they already have 13 sacks and 6 picks.....McD better use some max protection early and often....we might catch them by surprise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Except in hoops or hockey. Front row in basketball is pretty great too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Front row in basketball is pretty great too I said hoops 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: I think NE wins...something like 27-6......I don't think there's that much of a gap in talent per say ( although their D is staked ).....it's more, IMO having Belichick getting a plan together to get to... and confuse Josh.....I see him digging in the archives and use a Defensive approach similar to what he used to do when playing a young Big Ben....I think he's going to try to bring the hammer down on our 2nd year QB...they already have 13 sacks and 6 picks.....McD better use some max protection early and often....we might catch them by surprise.... How confident are you on that scoreline? I got a bunch on this game already and I’m in the mood rn. Let me know Just now, Joe in Winslow said: I said hoops I don’t read I just respond lololol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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