Bills (3-0) vs Bengals (0-3) Postgame thread

[jlgarsh]

1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

I don’t think Gore can carry the ball that much. 

 

What puzzles me is why they think Yeldon is better than marcus Murphy. 

 

I think Gore is playing through an ankle sprain.  He was hobbling quite a bit.

[blargo]

2 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Wow! It was nervous at the end. But anyway we won. I like Allen's reselience. I think we have a good future with QB which is not choking in 4th quarter even after his mistakes.

Yes I agree. How many times in the past did we lose a game like this?

[DuckyBoys]

11 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

what the..... 

good way to eat pvc shrapnel or lose a hand  You use hdpe pipe to do mortars just in case the lift charge fails  Hope that guy was ok

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dr. K]

14 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Eventually meaning that there is a hole in the roster. It's shown all 3 weeks, today, obviously, for the entire game.  It is a need and not a little one.  Beane and McDermott's willingness to go with Singletary and Gore minus McCoy created a void.

 

Talk through over and around it all you want. They didn't need the cap $ and McCoy, reportedly, is the one who convinced Gore to sign here.  Don't you suppose that McCoy would have considered that his role would automatically be reduced because of that?

 

You don't cut talent to keep lesser talent. Nobody can argue that is exactly what happened in this instance.

If McCoy were on the team we would not have seen Singletary half as much as we have, and would not know how good he could be. McCoy would take a lot of the snaps that now go to Singletary. 

 

Plus, McCoy would not have liked giving up snaps to Singletary, if it meant him sitting on the bench. The dynamics of this situation, not cap space, is what led to the Bills letting him go.  

[Cripple Creek]

Just now, Dr. K said:

If McCoy were on the team we would not have seen Singletary half as much as we have, and would not know how good he could be. McCoy would take a lot of the snaps that now go to Singletary. 

 

Plus, McCoy would not have liked giving up snaps to Singletary, if it meant him sitting on the bench. The dynamics of this situation, not cap space, is what led to the Bills letting him go.  

So you're saying that Singletary might be healthy at this point? I'll go for that, great idea.

 

Dynamics led the team to cut talent and keep less talent. Brilliant strategy. 

[Happy]

27 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

3rd QTR we did. 

 

Exactly.  What does McDermott tell his staff and the team during halftime:  "Alright guys, we have a lead...nurse it an run the clock out" ?

Good luck with that strategy next week.  NE** will put up 28 in the 3rd quarter, alone.

[DisplacedBillsFan]

It takes all good teams time to learn how to win. We're doing that now. All that matters is the number in the W column!

 

That said, hopefully we've learned a thing or two these past three weeks, because we need a dominant performance next week to even have a chance to be in the game in the 4th. School is out. Time to show us what they've learned.

[Happy]

1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said:

So you're saying that Singletary might be healthy at this point? I'll go for that, great idea.

 

Dynamics led the team to cut talent and keep less talent. Brilliant strategy. 

 

It's interesting that Gore, Yeldon, and Singletary are all north-south runners, where Shady is more east-west/improvise.  Shady's style probably doesn't work as well with what the OLine wants to do in their run blocking scheme.

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, inkman said:

I think there is a one missing there. This is not a good football team. 

It wasn't great. The Bills aren't good and will get smoked next week. 

They shouldn't have been down in the first place. The Bills aren't good. 

Poor baby ?, tissue?

 

Go Bills!!!

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, HerdMentality said:

Combined wins of our opponents so far: 0.

 

 

Whoops combined 1 win - that is more than NE right now does that mean we are better?

[Billsatlastin2018]

We got 3! @Micah_Hyde | #GoBills

 

And THAT is all that counts! ?There are only 16. Keep winning the ones you should, by whatever manner and you’re Playoff bound! These first 3 Ws were definitely the ones I posted a month ago, on the way to a 10-6 season. Having seen the entire NFL thus far, more not less, is possible.

 

THAT was a game changing, horrendous Pass by Allen. He needs to change that crap pronto, when being chased down. Better, he needs to read those plays early, to roll out free- prior to being chased and sling one of those great passes to Brown, Beasley or Knox that we saw earlier and at the closing.

 

Make NO mistake about it, though. 90% of this millennium that was a soul crushing snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory. I’m normally contrarian here, but I see a young QB who is getting better, 3 count em... 3 real live Receivers NOT from the 2018 Sunday Beer League, interesting vet & rookie RBs and an entire stout D.

 

Yes, I have Week 4 pegged as an L... but shock me, for once! 

I will be in travel mode during the game and won’t see anything until Q4. 

 

12th. Man! THIS is your week to shine. Make sure #12 can’t hear ONE play call!

 

GO BILLS! ? 

Edited September 23, 2019 by Billsatlastin2018

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

im not so sure it is.

 

Dallas and maybe baltimore are the only REALLY tough looking games outside of the pats.

 

And yet 3 games that didn’t look so tough were pretty close late , where a play or two here and there could have lead to different outcomes.  Can’t assume anything in the NFL. I’m not predicting it, but 7-10 wins IS realistic for this team.

[Mat68]

They handled business.  Mistakes previous Buffalo teams couldn't overcome Allen has lead them to do it.  Game on the line.  Need a Touchdown.  Allen has done it 2 out of 3 weeks.  Now Buffalo cant put themselves in those situations often, but having a Qb win games they shouldn't is promising.  

 

Cleaning up the mistakes is a must.  I will sit here and say if Buffalo avoids TO they can beat anyone.  Even NE.  

[Trogdor]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

im not so sure it is.

 

Dallas and maybe baltimore are the only REALLY tough looking games outside of the pats.

 

Eagles aren't a pushover and Browns might get it together. You never know how things will look at that point. Dallas didn't look great for most of the game today. 

[SCBills]

28 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

And yet 3 games that didn’t look so tough were pretty close late , where a play or two here and there could have lead to different outcomes.  Can’t assume anything in the NFL. I’m not predicting it, but 7-10 wins IS realistic for this team.

 

All one has to do is look at the scores any given week.  Blowouts are rare in the NFL.  

 

I think any objective person would say we looked like the better team each week this year.  Jets/Bengals went down to the wire because of 5-10 more mistakes than the opposition.  

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by SCBills

[Reader]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

All one has to do is look at the scores any given week.  Blowouts are rare in the NFL.  

 

I think any objective person would say we looked like the better team each week this year.  Jets/Bengals went down to the wire because of 5-10 more mistakes than the opposition.  

 

 

You make a good point. Somewhere lost in the spectrum of we're going to beat NE 56-3 to we're 3-0 against a combined 1-8 teams is the fact that the Bills have looked like the better team all three games and that it indicative of their playing ability.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

Gore, cannot at his age, be that guy any longer, IMO.  That is a big miss for this team right now.  Gore did well today but I don't think we can expect him to do more. Singletary is an unknown at this level.  Can he carry a team?

 

I sure hope so.

That's why it was stupid to cut Murphy and keep guys like Dimarco....every team in todays NFL strives to rotate rbs. Thats why you should have 4 capable ones.  Not 3 + a worthless FB?

[Boatdrinks]

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

All one has to do is look at the scores any given week.  Blowouts are rare in the NFL.  

 

I think any objective person would say we looked like the better team each week this year.  Jets/Bengals went down to the wire because of 5-10 more mistakes than the opposition.  

 

It is those mistakes that are cause for concern. While blowouts are not the norm, good teams don’t make a lot of mistakes. Making less mistakes is a marker of a good team, as the talent level between most teams isn’t that different. The Bills need turnover free football and practically error free execution to stay with NE for 4 quarters. 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It is those mistakes that are cause for concern. While blowouts are not the norm, good teams don’t make a lot of mistakes. Making less mistakes is a marker of a good team, as the talent level between most teams isn’t that different. The Bills need turnover free football and practically error free execution to stay with NE for 4 quarters. 

 

Probably.  I certainly think anyone beating NE in Week 4 is a tall task, especially a team like us that “should” be much better later in the year with all our youth and new players.  

 

I do agree the mistakes need to chill. 

 

That being said, we all talk about our schedule...  The Pats have played 3 teams with a combined worse record than the teams we beat.... and the teams we’ve beat have only won 1 game. 

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by SCBills

[Reader]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Probably.  I certainly think anyone beating NE in Week 4 is a tall task, especially a team like us that “should” be much better later in the year with all our youth and new players.  

 

I do agree the mistakes need to chill. 

 

That being said, we all talk about our schedule...  The Pats have played 3 teams with a combined worse record than the teams we beat.... and the teams we’ve beat have only won 1 game. 

 

 

To add to this, I think psychologically we try to look for patterns to be able to predict what is going to happen, but with the NFL it is really hard to do because so much is going on. Then of course there is a team like NE which makes thing seem predictable.

[Boatdrinks]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Probably.  I certainly think anyone beating NE in Week 4 is a tall task, especially a team like us that “should” be much better later in the year with all our youth and new players.  

 

I do agree the mistakes need to chill. 

 

That being said, we all talk about our schedule...  The Pats have played 3 teams with a combined worse record than the teams we beat.... and the teams we’ve beat have only won 1 game. 

 

Right. However, they have the track record and dispatched those teams pretty handily. We have a decent idea what that team is, but not a very clear picture for this one. Especially on offense, it’s just too new. 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

It's interesting that Gore, Yeldon, and Singletary are all north-south runners, where Shady is more east-west/improvise.  Shady's style probably doesn't work as well with what the OLine wants to do in their run blocking scheme.

I would say almost all of Singletary’s good plays were East West. 

[Happy]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I would say almost all of Singletary’s good plays were East West. 

 

Not to the extent that Shady improvised.  Singletary seems to stay more on script.

[Bob in STL]

22 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

That's why it was stupid to cut Murphy and keep guys like Dimarco....every team in todays NFL strives to rotate rbs. Thats why you should have 4 capable ones.  Not 3 + a worthless FB?

I tend to agree that we need another RB. Murphy is not at all a complete back but he is capable of getting yards.  

 

DiMarco was lead blocker on the game winning TD.  He can block and play special teams.  

[26TrapDraw]

My simple thoughts and observations on this one. That interception by Allen was garbage and if he's going to be taken seriously he simply can't throw that ball. I said ok Josh you have to lead your team in the fourth quarter to a come from behind victory drive. He did he absolutely did. Though he can't make that type of throw anymore ( and sitting on the sideline he knew it. So there's that) He showed the poise the Will and most important the ability to compete and that's what I needed to see.

[Stank_Nasty]

Bills lose... lots of pissing and moaning around here

 

Bills win... lots of pissing and moaning around here. 

 

If nothing else we’re consistent!  Impressive. 

[John from Riverside]

7 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

When's the parade?

How about just enjoying the win?  Do we need a parade to enjoy being undefeated today?

[Nextmanup]

20 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Bills lose... lots of pissing and moaning around here

 

Bills win... lots of pissing and moaning around here. 

 

If nothing else we’re consistent!  Impressive. 

You forgot the part about posters pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning.

We get a lot of that around here.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I would say almost all of Singletary’s good plays were East West. 

I am not seeing the same thing.....I see someone that makes sharp jump cuts then gets north south....Shady dances too much

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

I’m bullish on the job Bills GM Brandon Beane and coach Sean McDermott have done team-building, and it really does show up in the young core on a week-to-week basis. This week, 2017 Defensive Rookie of the Year Tre’Davious White (two interceptions) and 2019 third-rounder Dawson Knox (first career TD, 49-yard catch on which he ran through two tacklers) were the ones illustrating it in the home opener against the Bengals. We’ll see who steps up next for 3-0 Buffalo, with the Patriots coming to town.

[MJS]

8 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

I tend to agree that we need another RB. Murphy is not at all a complete back but he is capable of getting yards.  

 

DiMarco was lead blocker on the game winning TD.  He can block and play special teams.  

Better run and hide. This board does not accept positive words about DiMarco. He is useless and must be cut. Any evidence to the contrary must be ignored.

[Meatloaf63]

13 hours ago, JohninMinn. said:

Knox was lucky not to have had a face mask penalty called.

No he wasn’t, it was an open hand slap, he didn’t grab the mask

[Cripple Creek]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Found this tidbit interesting.

Tracking the snap counts by possession is a good way to learn more about the roster and what the team thinks of individual players. Recently, we’ve seen a trend of defensive tackle Harrison Phillips on a similar footing as incumbent starter Star Lotulelei. How the Bills organized their personnel in the fourth quarter made evident whom the team trusted with the game on the line, at least on Sunday. Lotulelei received only three fourth-quarter snaps — and none on the final defensive series. By the end of the game, Phillips wound up with more time on the field than Lotulelei.

 

Additionally, it was notable that the Bills felt comfortable enough on the final drive to take their top pass-rushers off the field. After six snaps, the Bills called Jerry Hughes and Trent Murphy off the field and put backups Shaq Lawson and Darryl Johnson in a huge spot. For the backups, it’s proof of the trust the coaching staff places in them. For the starters, it’s difficult to come out of the game in a spot that big.

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by Cripple Creek

[Coach Tuesday]

Has Allen said anything about that INT?

[ALF]

It looked like Daboll read the riot act to Allen after one of his mistakes. That's part of the process to improve.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Juice_32]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

My favorite part of this was piece something I noticed while watching the game yesterday. Daboll is the best OC we have had in a long time. Switching it up like he did with the pullers led to a few big gains.

 

For the third consecutive game, the opposition was left guessing from one play to the next because of the offensive coordinator’s innovative approach. Daboll’s ability to defy the tape and clues from the previous weeks gave his offense the edge in the first half.

“They were doing a lot of jets (sweeps) and a lot of pullers,” Bengals linebacker Preston Brown said after the game. “The pullers were taken to the ball on film, but this week the pullers were the misdirection.”

[YoloinOhio]