Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, whatdrought said: Yeah, I don't know if they liked Teller at all, given how much they put in the OL. I think Spain is a shoe in to start, and either Feliciano or Long at the other guard spot. Long also has skills at Center which increases his value. But Spain, Feliciano & Long don't exactly have long term deals and they are veterans. They should be ahead of Teller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lotta talk today about how Ed's having some trouble adjusting to facing huge NFL olinemen. Whoda thunk it? He is gonna be fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: How is Sills V looking can't find much about him today... 4 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: I think that’s your answer. Saw a few tweets that he’s not getting a lot of looks and would be a long shot to crack the roster based on how the coaches are not using him. Let's wait and see. Long way to go. Besides, I haven't heard a thing about players like VoSean Joseph, Maurice Alexander or Daryl Johnson. Doesn't mean they aren't making the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Sills has not played with starters, and that's where everybody is focusing their attention. We're not hearing much of anything about Boldin, McKenzie, or Duke Willliams either, because it is Matt Barkley or Tyree Jackson who are throwing the ball to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) I was off the grid so sorry if I missed this but it seemed like Hughes was getting pressure today. Anyone know if it was vs Ford or Nsecke? Or was that Dawkins? Edited July 27, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Maybe I'm crazy. ^^^ ding ding ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Interesting thing Jeremy White has brought up. He's talking about the McCoy rumors. A texter brought up getting rid of McCoy and going with Singletary. He didn't agree with it but didn't bring up a point. McCoy isn't in the embedded series other than Allen bantering him for spoiling the Avengers movie, he hasn't met with the media much in the offseason and Beane's comments this morning. Basically Beane just said "when the ball roles out, McCoy will get the first rep". Sounds like Beane left the door open and didn't fully commit to McCoy? There is competition at every spot on the team. This will make the team better and add in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Sills has not played with starters, and that's where everybody is focusing their attention. We're not hearing much of anything about Boldin, McKenzie, or Duke Willliams either, because it is Matt Barkley or Tyree Jackson who are throwing the ball to them. Fair point, but barring injuries (avert!) or other unforseen circumstances, it seems pretty likely that the guys who make the team are the ones who are playing with the first team, or rotating in with the first team eg, Beasley, Brown, Jones, Foster, Roberts (the ones getting most of the reps). McKensie has made some appearances with the 1s. Sal Capaccio reported that he had not seen Victor Bolden, David Sills, Duke Williams, Cam Phillips, and Nick Easley rotate in with the 1's at all, so unless they suddenly take a step, someone is injured, or one of the first-team guys takes a step back when the pads go on, it seems fairly likely the best 1-2 of the second- or third- team guys might make practice squad but they're unlikely to make the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Heard it on ESPN Rochester. I’m not going to worry about a rookie DL not playing in pads on day 2 of camp...based on a single report, which by the way is not a “lotta talk.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Shaq putting the moves on! the guy yelling “oh ****” made me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I’m not going to worry about a rookie DL not playing in pads on day 2 of camp...based on a single report, which by the way is not a “lotta talk.” You are missing out on a fantastic opportunity to go into a panic and downright tizzy! What kind of fan are you? ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Can you link or indicate where to find some of this talk? I think I'll wait until the pads go on to evaluate. It was definitely mentioned on OBL by Tasker, I think. Maybe they had 'Zo on at the time? I didn't catch Tasker's citation for the observation, if it came from him personally or from talking to others. Paraphrase from memory: The Bills have some big, wide NFL bodies on the interior O-line, and Oliver has had some difficulty getting around them at times. That's where I heard "this talk" earlier today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Where are the white guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, stony said: Seems like a cool dude. Quick side note, my firm did some work for the owner of the building he lives in here in Buffalo. I was in his apartment unit, and let’s just say as a fellow wine enthusiast myself, his wine game is very respectable. Specifics? As someone who pours mucho vino for the PSE organization and teams, I'm always interested in what they (top to bottom) get turned onto for wine. LaFontaine, for example, was a big Bordeaux guy (which made for an interesting dynamic with Terry Pegula, who knows his Left Bank chateaus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Hopefully they just leave Cody at RT, and we're set there for the next 10+ years (better than set!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair point, but barring injuries (avert!) or other unforseen circumstances, it seems pretty likely that the guys who make the team are the ones who are playing with the first team, or rotating in with the first team eg, Beasley, Brown, Jones, Foster, Roberts (the ones getting most of the reps). McKensie has made some appearances with the 1s. Sal Capaccio reported that he had not seen Victor Bolden, David Sills, Duke Williams, Cam Phillips, and Nick Easley rotate in with the 1's at all, so unless they suddenly take a step, someone is injured, or one of the first-team guys takes a step back when the pads go on, it seems fairly likely the best 1-2 of the second- or third- team guys might make practice squad but they're unlikely to make the 53. I think most of us figured that Brown, Jones, Foster & Beasley were locks to make the final roster. Andre Roberts as well due to his kick returning abilities. Although I was not expecting Roberts to be getting such significant time with the 1's. After those players, the remaining roster spot(s) were up for grabs, which is not surprising. Dhaquille Williams, Sills & Easley could end up getting a spot over McKenzie, Phillips or McCloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: It was definitely mentioned on OBL by Tasker, I think. Maybe they had 'Zo on at the time? I didn't catch Tasker's citation for the observation, if it came from him personally or from talking to others. Paraphrase from memory: The Bills have some big, wide NFL bodies on the interior O-line, and Oliver has had some difficulty getting around them at times. That's where I heard "this talk" earlier today... A number of media types have commented on this. They have all also commented on the fact that Oliver's speed/athleticism game won't really come into play until the pads come on. And, that he is a rookie at his second practice of the pre-season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 So, what did we learn from Day 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: I’m not going to worry about a rookie DL not playing in pads on day 2 of camp...based on a single report, which by the way is not a “lotta talk.” I've worried about it since the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I've worried about it since the draft. you need to stock up on sewing supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Nervous Guy said: you need to stock up on sewing supplies. If you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Oliver is the least concern I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Oliver is the least concern I have Fair enough. What’s your biggest concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Fair enough. What’s your biggest concern? Backup long snapper. But seriously it’s allen. Living and dying by the reports of him. D end opposite Hughes big concern for me. Right tackle, guard spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My opinion on Josh isn’t popular on either side of extremes, but I’m confident he’ll be an outstanding QB for us for many seasons -starting in 2022. His growth at the position was legendarily stunted from high school through the colleges he played for. That’s hard to make up for at this level. Especially when considering he only had 5+ hours total of actual play last season and no more than 8 hours in any non-playoff season (@ avg. 30 minutes TOP/game). He survived a ‘thrown to the wolves rookie campaign’ and grew exponentially from the experience. There’s just so much here to be enamored with while still learning how to play the position at comparatively his sophomore college year. We anointed Kelly as God on Opening Day in ‘86, yet it took a couple years to hone his game while starring at a major college and ‘semi-pro’ ball prior. This will take time but I believe he cares enough to be the very best he can -and he’ll achieve greatness. My biggest concern this season is a shallow one. Our schedule is easier up front than the back half, but we still won’t know who we are or play well enough to win some games we should. Regardless of playoff potential, if Josh improves his play markedly from Nov through Dec, the 3 year learning curve I expect could be reduced 1 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: the camaraderie this team is building is really cool, really cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the camaraderie this team is building is really cool, really cool... Plus Choluas. Can't go wrong with that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Specifics? As someone who pours mucho vino for the PSE organization and teams, I'm always interested in what they (top to bottom) get turned onto for wine. LaFontaine, for example, was a big Bordeaux guy (which made for an interesting dynamic with Terry Pegula, who knows his Left Bank chateaus). Sounds like a cool gig. I'd love to take a peak into Terry's cellar. Mostly Cal cabs. A few large format bottles of your usual suspects like Caymus. Think there was a Far Niente. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 14 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Beasley wants the ball every time, like all WR's should. Ok And? He gets open he gets the ball. Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) On 7/26/2019 at 10:02 PM, Royale with Cheese said: I've always wondered how trading players, the surprises especially get done? Darby and Watkins were surprises to us and fans...I remember the texts and jaw dropped. I have a hard time believing it was at random. What and how did the conversation start? Did the Eagles and Rams (and other FO) know the Bills were going through a rebuild and started calling Beane? Did Beane know that Darby wasn't a great fit for zone coverage...he started putting feelers out there? He knew Watkins wasn't going to sign here long term and put feelers out? All offseason, I thought trading McCoy was absurd. But now, especially after this morning, I will not be shocked now if he's dealt. I don't think he will if I had to put money on it today but wouldn't put too much down. Beane's non-committal talk speaks volumes.... Beane answered a lot of your questions in the PC after those trades. He wasn't actively trying to trade either guy. The teams called him, he didn't call them. If a team offers good value, he feels he has to consider it. And he made it very very clear that he absolutely considered signability and salary cap concerns as a major factor. I'd disagree with those who say Beane has been non-committal about Shady. IMO they've been very positive about him. They've said he's the number one, they've said they want him here. They've said they think he's got a lot left. They're not going to say anyone's untouchable, because you never know what value will be offered. He says he doesn't even like the word "untouchable." There are a few guys who are in practical terms untouchable because we're going to value them higher than anyone would give for them. Shady isn't one of those guys but I think they fully expect him to be here this year ... subject to competition and to the fact that nearly anyone's available if the offer's good enough. Edited July 27, 2019 by Thurman#1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: That's awesome, although apparently no player actually did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 9:49 AM, MAJBobby said: Like CLOCKWORK Practice Starts and The Flagship station goes to Instigators. Trash. Thats just bizarre, Murphy used to cover practice maybe its too early for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 10:45 AM, Chandler#81 said: Draft position. Hockenson can block like a lineman and has great hands. I dont expect Knox to be that kind of blocker but hopefully he catch like Gronk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 11:24 AM, Royale with Cheese said: Who needs 26 anymore? We've got the updates covered! was thinking that on day 1. Plus without the "superior" attitude . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 11:29 AM, Chandler#81 said: That’s 2 WRs in 2 days the G-men have lost. Shepherd broke his thumb yesterday. Sad news, on one hand, but perhaps an opportunity to unload some guys who won't make the team for future picks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 11:26 AM, MAJBobby said: Would be really cool if this kidd develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 12:58 PM, whatdrought said: Am I the only one that thinks Allen looks a little Native American? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yes Hm. I guess I'm imagining it then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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