Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: 20 years of pain and suffering and humiliation is worth at least 500,000 bucks ? Here’s your can coozie and hoodie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Wow, now that is stupid. The equivalent of spillin hot coffee on yourself and sueing them. Did you ever hear the real story behind this? McDonald's supposedly was brewing their coffee's way, way too hot. An elderly lady spilled it on her lap, caused severe burns and she was hospitalized because of it. She originally just asked them (McDonalds) to pay the medical bills. McDonald's refused and she got a Lawyer. She won because the temp that McDonald's was making their coffee....I think something like it was above the safety standards or something like that. She got burned really, really bad from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did you ever hear the real story behind this? McDonald's supposedly was brewing their coffee's way, way too hot. An elderly lady spilled it on her lap, caused severe burns and she was hospitalized because of it. She originally just asked them (McDonalds) to pay the medical bills. McDonald's refused and she got a Lawyer. She won because the temp that McDonald's was making their coffee....I think something like it was above the safety standards or something like that. She got burned really, really bad from what I understand. No sympathy from me, she spilled it, she knew it was hot, the degree of hot shouldn't be the factor, there's risk regardless. now if you find someone in the company that blows the whistle, well, y'all know the outcome. It's like hitting your thumb with a hammer and suing the manufacturer for making intentionally too hard, i mean really, let's be objective about it; people shouldn't be able to sue for their shortcomings or stupidity, and there's a shocking amount of stupidity out there. Frozen pizzas have "remove pizza from all packaging" and "do not eat frozen" on the instructions, why? because someone will toss it in the oven and burn their house down. Enforce accountability for christs sake. and if any of you recall that case kicked off the frivolous lawsuit clause whereas a judge could decision and turn around disciplinary action on the plaintiff and we desperately needed that, at least in California and i'm sure in other places as well. human side me feels sorry for her experience, and yes McD was dumb to not just help out when it was a civil request, but she needs to be accountable for knowing it's hot and not to drop the damn thing in your lap. lastly regarding my lack of sympathy - she went overboard on her pain and suffering ask, if it was "just fix it" she should have stopped at a reasonable amount. Edited July 19, 2019 by Say When... typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Say When... said: No sympathy from me, she spilled it, she knew it was hot, the degree of hot shouldn't be the factor, there's risk regardless. now if you find someone in the company that blows the whistle, well, y'all know the outcome. It's like hitting your thumb with a hammer and suing the manufacturer for making intentionally too hard, i mean really, let's be objective about it; people shouldn't be able to sue for their shortcomings or stupidity, and there's a shocking amount of stupidity out there. Frozen pizzas have "remove pizza from all packaging" and "do not eat frozen" on the instructions, why? because someone will toss it in the oven and burn their house down. Enforce accountability for christs sake. and if any of you recall that case kicked off the frivolous lawsuit clause whereas a judge could decision and turn around disciplinary action on the plaintiff and we desperately needed that, at least in California and i'm sure in other places as well. human side me feels sorry for her experience, and yes McD was dumb to not just help out when it was a civil request, but she needs to be accountable for knowing it's hot and not to drop the damn thing in your lap. lastly regarding my lack of sympathy - she went overboard on her pain and suffering ask, if it was "just fix it" she should have stopped at a reasonable amount. Here’s the story here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Say When... said: No sympathy from me, she spilled it, she knew it was hot, the degree of hot shouldn't be the factor, there's risk regardless. now if you find someone in the company that blows the whistle, well, y'all know the outcome. It's like hitting your thumb with a hammer and suing the manufacturer for making intentionally too hard, i mean really, let's be objective about it; people shouldn't be able to sue for their shortcomings or stupidity, and there's a shocking amount of stupidity out there. Frozen pizzas have "remove pizza from all packaging" and "do not eat frozen" on the instructions, why? because someone will toss it in the oven and burn their house down. Enforce accountability for christs sake. and if any of you recall that case kicked off the frivolous lawsuit clause whereas a judge could decision and turn around disciplinary action on the plaintiff and we desperately needed that, at least in California and i'm sure in other places as well. human side me feels sorry for her experience, and yes McD was dumb to not just help out when it was a civil request, but she needs to be accountable for knowing it's hot and not to drop the damn thing in your lap. lastly regarding my lack of sympathy - she went overboard on her pain and suffering ask, if it was "just fix it" she should have stopped at a reasonable amount. There's certainly a line. And we do this to ourselves on both sides of the line. People seriously buy coffee, don't drink it for 2 hours, and then call back to complain that it's not hot enough in hopes of getting a free coffee. Same with NFL fans. The same people cry about not getting calls while simultaneously crying about there being too many flags. I've seen real-life idiots actually do this. The loudest people do this. Rational people couldn't care less, but the NFL is forced to take action on it. The NFL still hasn't addressed to root cause of many officiating issues: the referree hiring system. They need to pay good money for full-time refs. It should probably be handled by a contracted third party. If a lawsuit could cause that result, I'd say it was worth it. Simply asking for an apology from the NFL is not worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Wow, there's hope for my lawsuit against "just give it to them" moron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 ...yet another example of the frivolous lawsuit statute......another piece of effective legislative genius..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Calls are missed--it doesn't mean that the game is being called "unfairly" I agree that calls are missed. I also believe that some teams or players routinely get the benefit of calls at key times in critical games. Tom Brady is one of those players. I do believe that the Patriots have only won certain games because other teams got hosed by missed or phantom calls. The Steelers is another one of those teams. Do you really think that the Patriots get the same level of wrong calls against them as they get in their favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Here’s the story here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants Quoting Wikipedia as a legitimate source? Really? Don’t get me wrong, some of the contributions may have merit but let’s consider there’s potential bias in that piece. Ill give you credit for making the effort and appreciate you have passion around this but it’s still on her as far as I’m concerned, and my conviction is enough to say i’d Feel the same way as if it was my own family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Nope, he was born to be a personal injury attorney. We all have a calling and that’s his. It’s working out quite well for him. Personal injury lawyers have to be aggressive and fearless. They usually have to go against well resourced establishment institutions such as insurance companies, hospitals, doctors, police etc. The case you were describing is a waste of time and plugs up the already slow moving legal system. This is a case that is frivolous and lacks merit. He is a grandstander who I am not going to give much deference to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: I agree that calls are missed. I also believe that some teams or players routinely get the benefit of calls at key times in critical games. Tom Brady is one of those players. I do believe that the Patriots have only won certain games because other teams got hosed by missed or phantom calls. The Steelers is another one of those teams. Do you really think that the Patriots get the same level of wrong calls against them as they get in their favor? No but so what? Same is true in NBA forever. That’s how it is. Winners get the calls. You can’t sue over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, MJS said: Yes. I believe the person in question required skin grafts or something like that. And the restaurant allowed their coffee to reach dangerously high temps. And the person sued for not that much money, like just to cover the cost of medical bills. Skin grafts is a bit of an understatement. I worked with a guy who was friends with someone working for the firm the woman was using. Said the coffee was so hot that her “lips” were fused together. Now, I’m not one for people being so stupid and they should know better. But that’s some damn hot coffee. Edited July 19, 2019 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tenhigh said: I'm more of a William Mattar guy. Frivolous lawsuit. Everyone in those days knew that you didn't pour coffee on your lap until AFTER it cools, ESPECIALLY McDonald's coffee. Seriously though, it was frivolous. Caveat Emptor. She didn't pour coffee in her lap. It spilled when she ha the cup between her legs. There can be no food product sold to the public that is hot enough to cause full thickness burns. McDonalds knew this was the case and kept selling it anyway. Not frivolous---it was a slam dunk case once the jury heard the above... Edited July 19, 2019 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It also wasn't a scoring play though. That one play didn't entirely decide the outcome of the game like the MCM did. Personally I think this is all a joke and the Saints had like 80+ other offensive plays in that game to distance themselves from a Rams team that they had a massive homefield advantage over. Should a Rams fan have brought a lawsuit against the Saints for pumping in crowd noise if they lost? The NFL has all manner of gray areas and officiating is just one of them. When people start realizing that the objective of the game is to provide a clear and obvious winner they will start understanding that you can't blame officiating for deciding who the better team is by virtue of one or two plays. When I let that "this call cost us the game" nonsense go I stopped getting mad about officiating. EVER. Win the game outright. If you don't then you are leaving yourself subject to bad breaks and human error. I don’t disagree with most of that. But boy was that about as bad a call as possible. Just awful. It didn’t ruin my year or anything but on a practical level you hate to see one so blatant in such a big moment. One thing that does stick with me though is that I’m quick to point out humanity of the officials and that a bang bang play at a weird angle can be incredibly tough and perfection can’t be the expectation... this one felt like “I’m not throwing a flag no matter what” and I dislike that. I’ll stomach “if I’m not positive I’m not calling it,” but this felt even past that, and should’ve had consequences for the officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Say When... said: Quoting Wikipedia as a legitimate source? Really? Don’t get me wrong, some of the contributions may have merit but let’s consider there’s potential bias in that piece. Ill give you credit for making the effort and appreciate you have passion around this but it’s still on her as far as I’m concerned, and my conviction is enough to say i’d Feel the same way as if it was my own family. If there are stats in it and @Royale with Cheese referenced it then you can rest assured there are inaccuracies and/or misinterpreted data. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I don’t disagree with most of that. But boy was that about as bad a call as possible. Just awful. It didn’t ruin my year or anything but on a practical level you hate to see one so blatant in such a big moment. One thing that does stick with me though is that I’m quick to point out humanity of the officials and that a bang bang play at a weird angle can be incredibly tough and perfection can’t be the expectation... this one felt like “I’m not throwing a flag no matter what” and I dislike that. I’ll stomach “if I’m not positive I’m not calling it,” but this felt even past that, and should’ve had consequences for the officials. It was just a terrible football play, IMO. Terrible decision to throw that ball there by Brees.........should have been a pick six.........and almost bailed out by a surreal bonehead misplay by NRC And instead all players responsible taken off the hook by the awful mis-call. You may get the feel that the official intentionally didn't throw the flag..............my take was that NRC so terribly misplayed that ball that the official was stunned and doubted his eyes and held the flag. We just assume these officials are prepared for everything but in what situation does a CB in that position just run thru a receiver a full second or more before the ball gets there? This wasn't 40 yards downfield with a CB in hopeless pursuit.......this play was happening in front of NRC eyes.........he was the one with the quickest path to that football and the moment it was thrown I was thinking pick six. It should never have happened and I think the degree of misplay surprised officials who in truth are rapidly narrowing down the possibile outcomes in their head as plays transpire in order to make decisive calls. You could even factor in the surprise of Brees throwing such a dangerous pass there. IMO....it was just a shitztorm of bad, ugly football at a time when you are hoping and expecting to see greatness..........that disgusted me, not the perceived injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I don’t disagree with most of that. But boy was that about as bad a call as possible. Just awful. It didn’t ruin my year or anything but on a practical level you hate to see one so blatant in such a big moment. One thing that does stick with me though is that I’m quick to point out humanity of the officials and that a bang bang play at a weird angle can be incredibly tough and perfection can’t be the expectation... this one felt like “I’m not throwing a flag no matter what” and I dislike that. I’ll stomach “if I’m not positive I’m not calling it,” but this felt even past that, and should’ve had consequences for the officials. Where I am at. I can go along with a close call gone wrong, but that was blatent no call with nothing in the way of viewing it. And our boy Nickell seemed completely fine doing something that normally would draw a hail of laundry and put the Saints on the doorstep of the goal line with a fresh set of downs. He did not even pretend he was looking back for the ball.... It is entertainment, and there is betting, viewership, and new stadiums to build. It is not that far fetched that some games are fixed. I still enjoy watching my Bills play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Wow, now that is stupid. The equivalent of spillin hot coffee on yourself and sueing them. Except that was a legitimate case the lady won. The coffee was brewed/served at WAY too high a temperature, and I'm not sure but there may have been something about the lid not being secured properly. She wound up with actual horrible burns on her lap and groin. And they did come down on her for spilling it on herself, ruling she was 20% at fault thus losing that percentage of the money awarded. Because of the case, it became mandated that they actually implement safety protocols to make sure coffee is served at a temperature that won't cause third degree burns to your crotch should there be an accident. TLDR, the meme of frivolously suing over coffee is a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 It's weird to see people still operating under the belief that NRC just horribly misplayed the ball. He straight up admitted he committed the foul on purpose. Something about he didn't think he was in position to make a play on the ball so went after the man or something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: It's weird to see people still operating under the belief that NRC just horribly misplayed the ball. He straight up admitted he committed the foul on purpose. Something about he didn't think he was in position to make a play on the ball so went after the man or something to that effect. He thought he blew the play and was at least saving a TD. The irony being the flag coming out creating 1st and goal under a minute and tied... I’d bet statistically speaking that giving up a TD and getting the ball is better than letting them run out the clock with a chip shot 20 yard fg to win it as time runs out. He made a series of terrible choices and got totally bailed out saints had had plenty of chances to win, but the gravity of this bad call erased a couple other really big no calls down the stretch that were game changers too. Edited July 20, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I'm not linking to the pictures cause it will likely get me banned...if you're saying it was a frivolous lawsuit and have not seen the pictures of the burns, stop now and google it (nake sure there are no kids around, and brace yourself, it's really bad). If you have not seen those pictures, and are commenting about the case being frivolous, and do not go look at the pictures, and continue to think that way, you are an uredeemable dolt sheep. McDonald's went on a huge media campaign to tarnish this woman, and it resulted in huge changes to how people can hold corporations accountable. You now have to go to arbitration where the company wins like 90% of the time, and they have massive limits on damages that are in many cases laughably low. Do some research, tort reform is a huge power grab by corporations that achieved this through bribing elected officials through donations. She has black holes in her skin across her thighs that are mad deep. Imagine it was a car accident and it spilled on a babies face. Go look at the fing pictures and come back and tell me it was a frivolous case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: I don’t disagree with most of that. But boy was that about as bad a call as possible. Just awful. It didn’t ruin my year or anything but on a practical level you hate to see one so blatant in such a big moment. One thing that does stick with me though is that I’m quick to point out humanity of the officials and that a bang bang play at a weird angle can be incredibly tough and perfection can’t be the expectation... this one felt like “I’m not throwing a flag no matter what” and I dislike that. I’ll stomach “if I’m not positive I’m not calling it,” but this felt even past that, and should’ve had consequences for the officials. This happens in every sport. In basketball, hockey, soccer they all swallow the whistle. I don't like it a penalty is a penalty, yet the suing over it is atrocious. Saints fans are an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Wow, now that is stupid. The equivalent of spillin hot coffee on yourself and sueing them. The scar is too gross to post on here but she had a legitimate gripe. 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: I'm not linking to the pictures cause it will likely get me banned...if you're saying it was a frivolous lawsuit and have not seen the pictures of the burns, stop now and google it (nake sure there are no kids around, and brace yourself, it's really bad). If you have not seen those pictures, and are commenting about the case being frivolous, and do not go look at the pictures, and continue to think that way, you are an uredeemable dolt sheep. McDonald's went on a huge media campaign to tarnish this woman, and it resulted in huge changes to how people can hold corporations accountable. You now have to go to arbitration where the company wins like 90% of the time, and they have massive limits on damages that are in many cases laughably low. Do some research, tort reform is a huge power grab by corporations that achieved this through bribing elected officials through donations. She has black holes in her skin across her thighs that are mad deep. Imagine it was a car accident and it spilled on a babies face. Go look at the fing pictures and come back and tell me it was a frivolous case. Disregard previous post as this person has way more ambition than I do. Edited July 20, 2019 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The scar is too gross to post on here but she had a legitimate gripe. Disregard previous post as this person has way more ambition than I do. Dont be dumb enough to put a hot cup of coffee between your legs. Someones own stupidity shouldnt be dismissed in these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Say When... said: Quoting Wikipedia as a legitimate source? Really? Don’t get me wrong, some of the contributions may have merit but let’s consider there’s potential bias in that piece. Ill give you credit for making the effort and appreciate you have passion around this but it’s still on her as far as I’m concerned, and my conviction is enough to say i’d Feel the same way as if it was my own family. I wasn’t defending her. I was just sending you the story to read up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 hours ago, RiotAct said: you should look up the details of that case... it wasn’t that cut-and-dry Just like sueing tobacco companies, anyone that didnt know breathing smoke and chemicals on your lungs is bad for you is an idiot. We make choices and we should accept responsability for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Dont be dumb enough to put a hot cup of coffee between your legs. Someones own stupidity shouldnt be dismissed in these cases. Don't be dumb enough to serve coffee at 180 to 190 degrees per the employee handbook (which would cause 3rd degree burns). Don't be dumb enough to ignore over 700+ other incidents where the people were injured from your coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said: Not a good analogy. If you spill the coffee on yourself that's clearly your fault. But if the cup falls apart like the umps ability to spot a blatant PI then that's different. The argument is that people invest in tickets etc. with a clear expectation that the game will be called fairly according to the published rule set. Clearly the case is not going anywhere but I applaud the Saints fans. How else can fans try and even the playing field. If the missed/wrong calls were truly random then the same few teams wouldn't be the beneficiaries every time. Based on the way the calls went I think that the NFL wanted NE & LA in the Superbowl. Just brushed up on it. She took the lid off with the coffee between her knees to put cream in it, Then she spilled on herself. I agree with this situation being different but the football fans experienced no losses and anyone gambling assumed the risk. You being a Bills fan want them to win because we would have one hell of a class action, but to error is a human element. Edited July 20, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did you ever hear the real story behind this? McDonald's supposedly was brewing their coffee's way, way too hot. An elderly lady spilled it on her lap, caused severe burns and she was hospitalized because of it. She originally just asked them (McDonalds) to pay the medical bills. McDonald's refused and she got a Lawyer. She won because the temp that McDonald's was making their coffee....I think something like it was above the safety standards or something like that. She got burned really, really bad from what I understand. There were other complaints as well, however one should not attempt to do what she did. It was foolish. 4 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Except that was a legitimate case the lady won. The coffee was brewed/served at WAY too high a temperature, and I'm not sure but there may have been something about the lid not being secured properly. She wound up with actual horrible burns on her lap and groin. And they did come down on her for spilling it on herself, ruling she was 20% at fault thus losing that percentage of the money awarded. Because of the case, it became mandated that they actually implement safety protocols to make sure coffee is served at a temperature that won't cause third degree burns to your crotch should there be an accident. TLDR, the meme of frivolously suing over coffee is a myth. It isnt unreasonable to expect people to not put hot coffee between their legs. Just because the jurors were idiots doesnt mean it wasnt frivolous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: It's weird to see people still operating under the belief that NRC just horribly misplayed the ball. He straight up admitted he committed the foul on purpose. Something about he didn't think he was in position to make a play on the ball so went after the man or something to that effect. So that means it should warrant a lawsuit? 46 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: There were other complaints as well, however one should not attempt to do what she did. It was foolish. It isnt unreasonable to expect people to not put hot coffee between their legs. Just because the jurors were idiots doesnt mean it wasnt frivolous. You're just jealous you didn't burn your legs. I've seen your posts, I could definitely see you stuffing your face with food from a drive thru with a cup of coffee between your legs. Edited July 20, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: There were other complaints as well, however one should not attempt to do what she did. It was foolish. It isnt unreasonable to expect people to not put hot coffee between their legs. Just because the jurors were idiots doesnt mean it wasnt frivolous. Dont you think it was foolish of McDonalds to serve coffee 20-30 degrees hotter than other places after over 700 complaints? You blame the victim when these were easily fixable things McDonalds could have solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanfreek Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Billzfan23 said: call 888-8888 But what if I call 854-2020 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Worth a shot, need to make the NFL more accountable for obvious calls that cost a championship. New Orleans definitely should have went to the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 hours ago, LeGOATski said: There's certainly a line. And we do this to ourselves on both sides of the line. People seriously buy coffee, don't drink it for 2 hours, and then call back to complain that it's not hot enough in hopes of getting a free coffee. Same with NFL fans. The same people cry about not getting calls while simultaneously crying about there being too many flags. I've seen real-life idiots actually do this. The loudest people do this. Rational people couldn't care less, but the NFL is forced to take action on it. The NFL still hasn't addressed to root cause of many officiating issues: the referree hiring system. They need to pay good money for full-time refs. It should probably be handled by a contracted third party. If a lawsuit could cause that result, I'd say it was worth it. Simply asking for an apology from the NFL is not worth it. I agree +1. Independent accounting firms handle lotteries. Why not get certified, independent companies to handle refs! How is anything ever going to change if people are complicit with the crappy & egregious results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Worth a shot, need to make the NFL more accountable for obvious calls that cost a championship. New Orleans definitely should have went to the Superbowl. As crazy as this thread seems as we endure our NFL drought, with more states legalizing gambling and looking to curb underground illegal gambling, there has already been some federal hearings regarding oversight of the industry. If there ever is state or federal oversight, I imagine they will use techniques like Nevada's gaming commission claims to use to spot irregular betting. Of course the existing institutions in Nevada, and the few Indian organizations that have grown fat and happy with their virtual gambling monopoly sans transparent oversight are strongly opposed to that idea. Our government of course sees money flowing that they have not tapped into? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I'm really sick of the Saints and their fans whining They already got us this insane PI challenge rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 8:22 AM, Dopey said: Is there a way for the NFL to ask for attorney fees when this guy loses? They do that in Great Britain where loser pays in frivolous lawsuits. Something we should adopt here across the board. Might cut down on these ambulance chasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I have my lawsuit for the music City disaster ready and waiting 20 years of pain and suffering and humiliation is worth at least 500,000 bucks ? Yes 500,000 bucks kicking you in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Eball would do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes 500,000 bucks kicking you in the head. Yea well you're a real ray of ****** sunshine aren't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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