Tipping Getting Out of Control

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

In all honesty.  I calculate 20-25% in even before going out.  If I can't afford it, I don't stuff my fat Bougie face and consume.  Just don't go out.  LoL...

 

/i_am_NOT_a_damn_communist_contrary_to_what @Joe in Winslow says

 

LoL...

 

You keep telling yourself that, Lenin.

 

[shrader]

22 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

An offshoot of the tipping craze that I just hate is the grocery, pet store etc. asking if you want to donate to some charity when you go to pay.  My kids looked at me funny at first for saying "no" but 1.  I don't know how much of my dollars are actually ending up at that charity and 2. I choose when and where I donate, not at some big business' request.

 

The random place that asks you if you want to round up to the next dollar for a charity, those ones do it right.  Sure it's a small donation each time, but I bet they consistently get that donation from most customers.

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

The random place that asks you if you want to round up to the next dollar for a charity, those ones do it right.  Sure it's a small donation each time, but I bet they consistently get that donation from most customers.

 

i bump it up $5 to not look cheap in front of business folk or the rare date

 

 

[Bad Things]

There's no tipping down here in New Zealand, thank God.

 

It's one of the irritating things to deal with when visiting the States.

[Foxx]

2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

you read that wrong 

 

Tip Jars are voluntary.   If I frequent the place a lot I will tip. 

 

Automatically adding 15% onto your bill - that is not voluntary. 

"Recommending" 20% is just as outrageous.

 

Bring my food, be polite, be attentive but not too attentive.  Act as if you care and I'll give them a nice tip. 

 

Bring my food and ignore me for 30 minutes .... is not tip worthy. 

 

basically, i don't want to be bothered after my meal is served. yet if i need something i fully expect y waiter to be available. if this is the case then a bigger tip is coming their way.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...love the way restaurants show suggested percentages of tip and calculate it on total bill INCLUDING sales tax....if I take my gang out, the bill is 300 bucks plus 24.00 in sales tax....why should tip be calculated on $324 versus $300?....I usually leave 20% for good service ($60.00) so why should I pay an extra $4.80 tip on the sales tax ($64.80) ?......

Edited May 28, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Even worse... Firefighters, police panhandling @ the intersection.  That's the absolute lowest of the low.

 

 

....agreed...almost shamed into it......now they hand out stickers that you donated so you don't get nailed at the next six intersections they're at.......ask 'em if they take VISA next time........

Edited May 28, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Gugny]

15 minutes ago, Foxx said:

basically, i don't want to be bothered after my meal is served. yet if i need something i fully expect y waiter to be available. if this is the case then a bigger tip is coming their way. 

 

My big thing is beverages.  A good server will keep an eye on everyone's drinks.  If I finish my drink and I need to wait for the server to come ask if I want another ... that's a ding.

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

so my service tip goes to a person washing dishes????    

 

EII said it well enough   

 

PAY these people well enough and F the tips.  Better pay = better working attitude = better service 

 

(I'll go back and sit with my fellow socialists now) 

 

It would be split amongst servers and other staff.

 

And I can say, unequivocally, that you and The Climate Changer otherwise known as @ExiledInIllinois, would ***** your collective pants if restaurant food prices rose 15-20% across the board. In other words, you’re both full of it.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Cripple Creek

[coloradobillsfan]

49 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

There's no tipping down here in New Zealand, thank God.

 

It's one of the irritating things to deal with when visiting the States.

 

this was a point my friend from England made too, but it seemed to me like the tip may have been 'built in' by the inflated prices, ie. pints of beer were commonly £5 which came to over $8 at the time of my visit to the UK

[Bray Wyatt]

In one of the restaurants I worked at, a guy would come in and at the beginning of his meal set down a bunch of dollars and tell them this was the servers tip. If he had to wait to have his drink refilled or there were any problems with his meal he would remove money from the pile

[Ol Dirty B]

This pretty simple a buck for each take out item and 20% at least for a meal you're served.

 

Unless the service is awful, I don't understand people's issue with tipping.

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm served at a restaurant.  Handing me a bag full of food isn't what I consider as "Service."

 

What's the difference between someone assembling a bunch of burgers, etc. and putting them in a bag to hand to you .... and someone putting together any other meal, then putting it in a bag to hand to you?  Why do you draw a line between "fast food" and a "restaurant?"

 

5 hours ago, Steve O said:

I don't mind tipping $1-$2 a drink. What I don't like is when I go to a place, start a tab, have several beers, and only get charged for half of them. I mean if someone is having 3 or more drinks they are probably entitled to one on the house. But it's tough to run a business when the profits are given away in the hopes of a big tip. Which admittedly I give, often upwards of 100% when this happens, which probably makes me part of the problem.

 

And while we're ranting, when did "no problem" replace "you're welcome" as the proper response to a thank you? Nothing irks me more than thanking the wait staff and being told it was not a problem. I wasn't expecting it to be a problem, it's their effing job! Okay, there's probably a lot that irks me more that that, but I find it really annoying. Does anyone else?

 

You're the first person I've ever heard of complaining about getting hooked up.

 

You'll never be happy.

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

so my service tip goes to a person washing dishes????    

 

EII said it well enough   

 

PAY these people well enough and F the tips.  Better pay = better working attitude = better service 

 

(I'll go back and sit with my fellow socialists now) 

 

Exactly!

 

Yet... On other hand:

Look @ us lock operators!  LMAO... Oops scratch that.  ?

27 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

In one of the restaurants I worked at, a guy would come in and at the beginning of his meal set down a bunch of dollars and tell them this was the servers tip. If he had to wait to have his drink refilled or there were any problems with his meal he would remove money from the pile

What douchebag.  If he had a boat, I'd make him wait 36 hours.  LMAO... 

[Augie]

2 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

An offshoot of the tipping craze that I just hate is the grocery, pet store etc. asking if you want to donate to some charity when you go to pay.  My kids looked at me funny at first for saying "no" but 1.  I don't know how much of my dollars are actually ending up at that charity and 2. I choose when and where I donate, not at some big business' request.

 

I go to Publix at least 5 times a week, and they are a bit out of control with this. I give a dollar each time, but usually don’t even know what it’s going toward. I’m hoping the entry fee to Heaven isn’t any more than one dollar. 

[/dev/null]

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I follow the foreign European rule $1 EU

 

Or the countries where No tips allowed

China.

French Polynesia.

Japan. Tipping under any circumstance in Japan may seem rude, because good service is standard and expected. ...

Korea. ...

Hong Kong. ...

Switzerland. ...

Australia. ...

Belgium.

 

Been to Hong Kong many, many times and you are wrong about tipping.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

Our oldest son was a wild card, but with a good heart. I found a can of orange spray paint in his car one time. Naturally, you need to ask “what was the paint for?” He stammered for a bit, but then admitted he went with a buddy from the football team to go cow tipping one night. The poor cows were so innocent and unaware, and they didn’t have it in their hearts to rock them to the ground, so they......”decorated them” instead. 

[GaryPinC]

6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Even worse... Firefighters, police panhandling @ the intersection.  That's the absolute lowest of the low.

Wow.  Your reading comprehension is truly awful.  I've got no problem and always do donate to both those groups.

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, GaryPinC said:

I've got no problem and always do donate to both those groups.

While they are panhandling as a public safety menace on the street?

 

Just raise my taxes please = just raise the wages of restaurant workers so we can avoid beggars.  Begging culture.

[KD in CA]

9 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Also, cash tips are much more appreciated since Servers don't have to declare the full amount.

 

Help them cheat on their taxes so I can carry more of the burden?  ***** that noise.

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Help them cheat on their taxes so I can carry more of the burden?  ***** that noise.

"It's not cheating, it's just being smarter."

 

~Signed,

Donald J. Trump

[SinceThe70s]

10 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Help them cheat on their taxes so I can carry more of the burden?  ***** that noise.

 

LOL, you sound like my father. That's a good thing IMO even if I don't always live up to his ideals.

[SinceThe70s]

Restaurant tipping is straight forward. I'm tipping on the service, not the meal. 20% is the standard (including drinks). Could go higher or lower but usually not by much either way. If I'm with a big group I'll kick in extra after the anal retentive calculator folks figure out "what's right".

 

Hotel tipping is more interesting. They seem to always have their hand out for services I have little use for. Bell boy? You better get running now, I can handle my own bags. Does anyone tip the maids for daily service? I don't. But I'll leave a buck or two for clearing our plates while we are in between rounds of gluttony at the breakfast buffet.

[Just Joshin']

6 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...love the way restaurants show suggested percentages of tip and calculate it on total bill INCLUDING sales tax....if I take my gang out, the bill is 300 bucks plus 24.00 in sales tax....why should tip be calculated on $324 versus $300?....I usually leave 20% for good service ($60.00) so why should I pay an extra $4.80 tip on the sales tax ($64.80) ?......

You are correct.  Worked my thru college as a waiter and the tip was always pre-tax.  Post tax is one of my pet peeves.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

Restaurant tipping is straight forward. I'm tipping on the service, not the meal. 20% is the standard (including drinks). Could go higher or lower but usually not by much either way. If I'm with a big group I'll kick in extra after the anal retentive calculator folks figure out "what's right".

 

Hotel tipping is more interesting. They seem to always have their hand out for services I have little use for. Bell boy? You better get running now, I can handle my own bags. Does anyone tip the maids for daily service? I don't. But I'll leave a buck or two for clearing our plates while we are in between rounds of gluttony at the breakfast buffet.

I don’t need a bellhop, and I may just offend a few who try to get a few bucks from us by being pushy. It’s not the money as much as assuming I can’t do it myself. I got this stuff all the way from my closet to your front door. I can handle to the elevator and up to the room. That can be annoying. 

 

I don’t tip maids, but a cruise is different. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

Restaurant tipping is straight forward. I'm tipping on the service, not the meal. 20% is the standard (including drinks). Could go higher or lower but usually not by much either way. If I'm with a big group I'll kick in extra after the anal retentive calculator folks figure out "what's right".

 

Hotel tipping is more interesting. They seem to always have their hand out for services I have little use for. Bell boy? You better get running now, I can handle my own bags. Does anyone tip the maids for daily service? I don't. But I'll leave a buck or two for clearing our plates while we are in between rounds of gluttony at the breakfast buffet.

I leave 10 bucks a day for maids.  It's back breaking work. I value their work.  I am not a pig in the room... It doesn't get left a mess.

 

@LeviF91 nailed in his post above.

 

I don't tip for my service.  I tip to gracious and thankful that someone is helping.  It's about them, not me.

 

I know I am an oddball.  So be it.

 

I don't even understand why it's necessary the begging culture... People simply aren't paid enough or we aren't taxes for our services enough if public entities have to beg for extra money, widows and orphans, etc... etc... 

 

Charity sometimes creates more problems, inequity:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/mackenzie-bezos-tech-philanthropy-pitfalls/amp

 

This article can be applied to the culture of tipping, begging for extra.  The fact is, these people are underpaid for their services.

 

 

[KD in CA]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I leave 10 bucks a day for maids.  It's back breaking work. I value their work.  I am not a pig in the room... It doesn't get left a mess.

 

@LeviF91 nailed in his post above.

 

I don't tip for my service.  I tip to gracious and thankful that someone is helping.  It's about them, not me.

 

I know I am an oddball.  So be it.

 

I don't even understand why it's necessary the begging culture... People simply aren't paid enough or we aren't taxes for our services enough if public entities have to beg for extra money, widows and orphans, etc... etc... 

 

Charity sometimes creates more problems, inequity:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/mackenzie-bezos-tech-philanthropy-pitfalls/amp

 

This article can be applied to the culture of tipping, begging for extra.  The fact is, these people are underpaid for their services.

 

 

 

My wife would be pissed if she saw how neat I generally keep my hotel room (unless she's with me of course).

 

$10/day is insane though -- unless you're Richie Rich like you.  I probably average $2/day, which is about $10/hr.

 

 

 

p.s.  Where are you getting this 'cops and firefighters panhandling' nonsense?   Every panhandler I've ever seen is either a) a certified bum who hasn't held a real job in years or b) a professional begger (lots and lots of those).

[Misterbluesky]

22 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

Restaurant tipping is straight forward.

I want my bride to leave the restaurant very,very happy.I use cash at the bar,the table, including tip.

Money is no issue...because the entire meal/drinks is about getting home.??

Put on some smooth as silk love making jazz..oh baby

Tips..what

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I leave 10 bucks a day for maids.  It's back breaking work. I value their work.  I am not a pig in the room... It doesn't get left a mess.

 

@LeviF91 nailed in his post above.

 

I don't tip for my service.  I tip to gracious and thankful that someone is helping.  It's about them, not me.

 

I know I am an oddball.  So be it.

 

I don't even understand why it's necessary the begging culture... People simply aren't paid enough or we aren't taxes for our services enough if public entities have to beg for extra money, widows and orphans, etc... etc... 

 

Charity sometimes creates more problems, inequity:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/mackenzie-bezos-tech-philanthropy-pitfalls/amp

 

This article can be applied to the culture of tipping, begging for extra.  The fact is, these people are underpaid for their services.

 

 

 

We don’t tip at hotels, and that seems crazy! My wife is in a hotel more than home, and we are rarely here together. It’s almost all business travel, and sometimes I join her to see the city she is visiting. Tips at a hotel is odd behavior in our view. 

 

Again, on a cruise there is a different set of expectations. I’m fine with that. 

 

 

. 

Edited May 29, 2019 by Augie

[Rocket94]

10 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

well, I think most restaurant meals I order takeout involve lots more than putting something in a bag. Pizza not included.

I was a server at a popular WNY restaurant years ago. The menu was steak, lobster and French centered. The prices were high (even by today's standards) but money never appeared to be the object. It was more or less a social club for some. If I gave them what they wanted, I was tipped handsomely. I worked some brutal hours...but made a killing.

[ExiledInIllinois]

22 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

My wife would be pissed if she saw how neat I generally keep my hotel room (unless she's with me of course).

 

$10/day is insane though -- unless you're Richie Rich like you.  I probably average $2/day, which is about $10/hr.

 

 

 

p.s.  Where are you getting this 'cops and firefighters panhandling' nonsense?   Every panhandler I've ever seen is either a) a certified bum who hasn't held a real job in years or b) a professional begger (lots and lots of those).

They stand @ intersection with a boot and beg for money.  Because their departments aren't getting enough.  The police should write them a ticket for standing in traffic.

 

Professional beggars.  Same with the professional charities that beg on the phone for the widows and orphans... We must not be paying them well enough?

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

They stand @ intersection with a boot and beg for money.  Because their departments aren't getting enough.  The police should write them a ticket for standing in traffic.

 

Professional beggars.  Same with the professional charities that beg on the phone for the widows and orphans... We must not be paying them well enough?

 

I’m ready to get rid of our land line. Not because of cost, but the half dozen robo-calls every day are pissing me off more and more. I’ll vote for someone who will END that! 

[KD in CA]

21 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

They stand @ intersection with a boot and beg for money.  Because their departments aren't getting enough.  The police should write them a ticket for standing in traffic.

 

Professional beggars.  Same with the professional charities that beg on the phone for the widows and orphans... We must not be paying them well enough?

 

Yeah...."we're" not paying anyone enough.  Except the ones with the new cell phone and cable TV.   

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yeah...."we're" not paying anyone enough.  Except the ones with the new cell phone and cable TV.   

 

Rut row! This could get squirrelly! 

[ExiledInIllinois]

20 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m ready to get rid of our land line. Not because of cost, but the half dozen robo-calls every day are pissing me off more and more. I’ll vote for someone who will END that! 

You would think... There would be a way to block them with computers. Lot of spoofing going on.  Got into an argument with someone who called my cell.  They said I called, I said no, they said my # on their caller Id.  LoL... How the heck are they spoofing #s.

 

At least a cell, you can block the #.

18 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yeah...."we're" not paying anyone enough.  Except the ones with the new cell phone and cable TV.   

I agree.

 

Lots of gratuitous stuff consumers are bombarded with today... And they always make bad choices.

[Warcodered]

16 hours ago, unbillievable said:

I will tip if the food is waiting for me when I arrive.  Only a few dollars, and only if it's a real restaurant; mostly because they have to preserve the integrity of the food, instead of just sticking it into a styrofoam box.

 

I used to tip 20% at vietnamese cafe I frequented about once a month.

 

I Built a relationship with a particular waitress who practically shoved all the other servers aside to get to me first. I always ordered the same thing so all I had to do was walk in, answer yes to her question of "same order", shop at the asian market next door, then drop off a $20 ($15 order) at the counter, as I was handed my food,  on my way back to my car.

 

I never realized how much I relied on this simple routine, until my waitress wasn't at work. Consequently, I had to wait in line to put my order in when I arrived, then forced to wait 10mins after my shopping trip as they had not gotten to my order yet. There was no tip on that one.

 

 

Isn't that a 33% tip?

[Teddy KGB]

Jersey Mikes/Chipotle/Moes style places = no tip for you 

 

The sub combo is 15.00.  I’m all tapped out my man.  

 

Restaurants 20-30% 

[unbillievable]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Isn't that a 33% tip?

...you're right.

 

The order came out to $15+, so the tip was actually $4 and some change. In my head I rounded it down to about $4 so I did the math as 4 out 20.

 

All those years I was tipping her 30%... ?

 

 

[Bray Wyatt]

 

This thread lol

[Bill from NYC]

8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

They stand @ intersection with a boot and beg for money.  Because their departments aren't getting enough.  The police should write them a ticket for standing in traffic.

 

Professional beggars.  Same with the professional charities that beg on the phone for the widows and orphans... We must not be paying them well enough?

The NYC PBA, DEA, and all of the other unions do NOT solicit. They never have and the PBA in particular has millions of dollars in the treasury.

 

When generous citizens call and ask to donate money, the Widows and Orphans Fund will accept it but that is it. These "charities" who call and solicit are scamming you.

 

PS: Decades ago, Yoko Ono, during a fiscal crisis, donated money to NYC (not the police unions) to purchase bulletproof vests for police officers.