BarleyNY Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) Pretty thorough job of rating all of the OLmen currently under contract with the Bills. There seems to be a huge emphasis on pass blocking over run blocking. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-examining-the-buffalo-bills-offensive-line-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season Edited May 21, 2019 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Pretty though job of rating all of the OLmen currently under contract with the Bills. There seems to be a huge emphasis on pass blocking over run blocking. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-examining-the-buffalo-bills-offensive-line-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season That seemed to jump out with each signing. I guess they are all in on giving Josh the protection he needs to sit back and throw, rather than be forced to run for his life. Fingers crossed and time will tell! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I’m not expecting the best line in football, but I’m thoroughly pleased with how they rebuilt that so quickly. We could have 5 potential upgrades on our O-line.. that’s insane! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I’m not expecting the best line in football, but I’m thoroughly pleased with how they rebuilt that so quickly. We could have 5 potential upgrades on our O-line.. that’s insane! Yeah. I’m certainly expecting a whole lot better from the OL as a whole. Hopefully they get the line set quickly so they can gel a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The Nostradamus forecasters on all things NFL know no bounds. Can ranking team game day hydration staffs in May be far off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Almost anything would be an improvement over last season, but the guards still don't seem very impressive and based on the contracts they received, I don't think Beane is expecting a whole lot. Overall , really need Dawkins to get back to rookie form and hope Ford can contribute as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, klos63 said: Almost anything would be an improvement over last season, but the guards still don't seem very impressive and based on the contracts they received, I don't think Beane is expecting a whole lot. Overall , really need Dawkins to get back to rookie form and hope Ford can contribute as a rookie. I agree. I an sort of hoping either Ford or Dawkins end up inside. I think they'd solidy the line by doing that. Both would be very athletic guards and I think that is a big deal these days as the DT's get more and more athletic. Anything has to be better than last year but I still think this area can stand some upgrading with one or two highly regarded draft picks. Most of the signees were middling which is still better than the dregs of 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Cannot figure what order the ratings are. Not alphabetical, rating, length if contract or experience which is odd. And Long also plays guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Cannot figure what order the ratings are. Not alphabetical, rating, length if contract or experience which is odd. And Long also plays guard. Niche says, "out of chaos comes order." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 My guesses: Dawkins (left) and Nsekhe (right) at the tackle spots. Ford could play his way into the right tackle spot, depending on how ready he is. If that's the case, would have Nsekhe as a versatile backup. Center is obviously locked up by Morse and backed up by Bodine. The two guard spots seem the most up in the air. Spain (left) likely will take one of them. The other will be up for grabs, but I would guess Long ends up playing rg for the season. It's possible we see Ford here too, but from what Beane said.. it would appear that they are going to try him at RT first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Rookie offensive lineman need more coaching up than any other position besides rookie QB they practically live on the hip of the line coach... you get less personal time every year It would be wise to coach Ford up in the position you have him pegged at... because playing guard and tackle are completely different and with a second round pick you want development... if you want him at guard then you stick him at guard now... if you have him pegged as a Tackle, you start coaching him up as a tackle.. you don’t want him bouncing around and potentially slowing development because the positions aren’t similar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Niche says, "out of chaos comes order." blow it out your a** Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Cannot figure what order the ratings are. Not alphabetical, rating, length if contract or experience which is odd. And Long also plays guard. It's hard to take that grade sheet seriously when they have rookie UDFA Garrett McGhin getting a higher grade than Dawkins, or Nsekhe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: It's hard to take that grade sheet seriously when they have rookie UDFA Garrett McGhin getting a higher grade than Dawkins, or Nsekhe. He is being graded on college not on the pros, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Imagine the number of times this offseason that the Bills OL is going to be discussed here in an optimistic way.. Regardless of what combination they come up with, there is not even the most remote chance that the OL is not improved from last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Augie said: That seemed to jump out with each signing. I guess they are all in on giving Josh the protection he needs to sit back and throw, rather than be forced to run for his life. Fingers crossed and time will tell! The Air Raiders !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 As long as Castillo isn't teaching our players, we have a shot... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: Cannot figure what order the ratings are. Not alphabetical, rating, length if contract or experience which is odd. And Long also plays guard. Long plays both Center and Guard. He has played more Center in his career which is why he is listed there. Only reason he moved to Guard this past season is he had a hand injury which caused problems snapping and led to many fumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 PFF people are such nerds. I just go to the youtube highlights and see the PANCAKES!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I dont know if I am going to just trust the numbers, but I'll say there are two really nice things we haven't seen for a while: 1) competition will win out. There's too much talent around to have anyone (except maybe Morse) to be gifted a job. 2) Depth. How many seasons have we seen immediate drop off when someone is injured. 3) 6 O-line formations. Ok, this is a guess, but they were effective with Roman. We are still a heavy run game team, so we can bulk up, or give extra protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I think we end up with around a top ten unit. Splitting hairs between units that are from 4-15 in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: PFF people are such nerds. I just go to the youtube highlights and see the PANCAKES!!!! Are you implying that being a nerd/book reader/numbers cruncher/intellectual is a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: It's hard to take that grade sheet seriously when they have rookie UDFA Garrett McGhin getting a higher grade than Dawkins, or Nsekhe. Or McDermott grading higher than Waddle? Did he even have more than 10 snaps all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I used to be really in to PFF, but after E.Wood and @AngryNFLScoutVet came out on twitter and said it was impossible to grade these guys without knowing the play, and that you can't just guess the play, I am just completely out on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 9 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Niche says, "out of chaos comes order." You straight up murdered his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He is being graded on college not on the pros, obviously. Obviously, but there's a lot of apples and oranges on that list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 My guess is... Dawkins Spain Morse Long Nsekhe We keep Teller, Feliciano, Waddle and Ford, who is waiting in the wings to bump Nsekhe to swing. Long is the back up C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: You straight up murdered his name. Tell that to the good folks or Rock Ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Tell that to the good folks or Rock Ridge. Excuse me while I whip this out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: PFF people are such nerds. I just go to the youtube highlights and see the PANCAKES!!!! You know, i'm thinking we missed an opportunity when Ndamukong Suh was stepping on everyone with his cleats to call that Waffling somebody. Toasted, Jammed at the line now i'm hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I expect the line to be vastly improved this season, but I'm keeping my expectations tempered. There will probably be five starting O-linemen who have never played with any of the others, and none of them having ever played for the new OL coach. There's a lot of promise, but nobody has played at a blue-chip level. This is going to be a 'get to know you' season, and will likely take several games into the schedule to start gelling - I wouldn't be surprised to see the lineup change a couple of times along the way. And with so many FA signings, odds are that there will be a couple of busts. On he upside, I see pass protection being greatly improved from Day 1, giving Allen a lot more time to throw. If all goes well. the Bills might be competing for a playoff spot. But next year, 2020, the line will be set and experienced going into the season. Then, I see Buffalo being an absolute beast. Not just a playoff team, but a threat to win multiple games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Honest question. How does PFF evaluate players without knowing the playcall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 16 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Niche says, "out of chaos comes order." @Cripple Creek do you have thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 16 hours ago, berg1029 said: My guesses: Dawkins (left) and Nsekhe (right) at the tackle spots. Ford could play his way into the right tackle spot, depending on how ready he is. If that's the case, would have Nsekhe as a versatile backup. Center is obviously locked up by Morse and backed up by Bodine. The two guard spots seem the most up in the air. Spain (left) likely will take one of them. The other will be up for grabs, but I would guess Long ends up playing rg for the season. It's possible we see Ford here too, but from what Beane said.. it would appear that they are going to try him at RT first. Feliciano appears to be the back up to Morse because hes with the ones today. I think Bodine is gonna be traded for a mid-late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: @Cripple Creek do you have thoughts on this? He is the expert no matter how you spell it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: He is the expert no matter how you spell it! This is true, so don’t be no sidewinding, bushwhacking, hornswaggling, cracker crocker trying to ruin my biscuit cutter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 The only thing that concerns me is the fact that most coaches believe that continuity is vital to building a solid O-Line. These guys will be pretty much be starting from scratch at training camp. An O-line has to work as a unit and each player needs to know exactly what the other 4 guys are doing on any given play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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