"The Bills are winning this Draft" - Per Matt Miller

[Scorp83]

Even though I know in my heart this is a good draft... I'm left a tad disappointed that we haven't address WR yet... but man Adam Lefkoe, Matt Miller & Conner Rogers just gave our GM the highest praise I've ever seen in a longtime!

 

It's definitely a treat for every person on this board to watch this video! 

 

They even went so far to call other teams "Stupid" for allowing the Bills to do what they're doing ???

 

https://bleacherreport.com/post/buffalo-bills/6325b7d3-19fb-46ad-8781-17245cef0af2

 

Enjoy... & yea... let's discuss how everyone is feeling so far about the draft too... we don't have ANY 4th Rd picks, so we won't see any action until about 2pm tomorrow afternoon. 

Edited April 27, 2019 by Scorp83
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[LABILLBACKER]

Unless they trade their 5th & 6th to move to 4th, Butler will be gone and everyone else left is just wr meh....Love our first 2 picks and Singletary will be intriguing. Dawson creek Knox landing was too expensive. 

Edited April 27, 2019 by LABILLBACKER

[Buffalo Junction]

I'm pretty happy with this draft. Grabbing a HB in the 3rd was a bit of a head scratcher when you consider the Yeldon signing, but I love the other picks. I'll just have to have faith on that pick... I just don't see a real plan at HB.

Edited April 27, 2019 by Buffalo Junction

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I'm pretty happy with this draft. Grabbing a HB in the 3rd was a bit of a head scratcher when you consider the Yeldin signing, but I love the other picks. I'll just have to have faith on that pick... I just don't see a real plan at HB.

Yeldin is pretty much a nobody at this point in his career. Received practically zero interest in free agency and saw his offensive importance shrink and shrink in Jacksonville.

[sven233]

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

I think it also has to do with where is there value in the draft. I mean they could of drafted a bunch of WR but how many of them would of actually made the 53.

[Buffalo Junction]

12 minutes ago, MJS said:

Yeldin is pretty much a nobody at this point in his career. Received practically zero interest in free agency and saw his offensive importance shrink and shrink in Jacksonville.

It's the overall grouping of talent. I don't see what the plan is. Considering that Gore and Shady will likely move on after this season Yeldon and Singletary aren't exactly complementary backs. That's not to say that things can't change.... But.... We don't exactly have a hammer. Yeldon is big but plays soft. It kind of feels like finding two guys to do what Shady does instead of getting a player that can be a reliable 3 down workhorse, or going with the "thunder and lightning" approach.

 

I don't hate the pick. I just don't see what their plan is moving forward.

[PolishPrince]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said:

It's the overall grouping of talent. I don't see what the plan is. Considering that Gore and Shady will likely move on after this season Yeldon and Singletary aren't exactly complementary backs. That's not to say that things can't change.... But.... We don't exactly have a hammer. Yeldon is big but plays soft. It kind of feels like finding two guys to do what Shady does instead of getting a player that can be a reliable 3 down workhorse, or going with the "thunder and lightning" approach.

 

I don't hate the pick. I just don't see what their plan is moving forward.

We keep forgetting about the rugby player we signed too

[Buffalo Junction]

Just now, PolishPrince said:

We keep forgetting about the rugby player we signed too

Yes, we do. I've never seen him in pads against actual competition. I can't even take a guess at how he'll fit in. Heck, they might end up trying him at H-back.

[MJS]

15 minutes ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

When you have 10 picks you use them to trade up and get better picks. That's what those 4th rounders were there for. And I hope the Bills use more of their lower picks to trade up a bit again. Having a bunch of 4th round and below guys on your team is not super helpful. Yes, you might get lucky with one of them, but generally speaking the higher a guy is drafted the better career he'll have. Generally.

[MtlBillsFan]

I love Beane but the guy is human. I'm with the posters who thinks two 4th to move up to get Knox is a bit expensive. Is it a big deal? Probably not. But that is two less chance to hit for a starting player which is very likely in the 4th.

Go Bills!

[DallasMac]

Like most here the rb selection confused me.  Just felt like Jace or Winovich would've been the better pick.  Really liked Trayveon Williams and could've got him a round later.  Bottom line is I trust the guys running the show and am still happy with what the team has done overall.

Edited April 27, 2019 by DallasMac

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Yeldin is pretty much a nobody at this point in his career. Received practically zero interest in free agency and saw his offensive importance shrink and shrink in Jacksonville.

I look at the Yeldon signing as insurance. Gore will be 36 come preseason, and I have a hard time believing he will be an upgrade from Ivory. The only thing that surprised me about the Singletary pick was that they didn't draft more of a downhill runner. But, I don't hate the pick AT ALL. I think he will be a fun guy to watch, and if his elusiveness can translate to the NFL, he could develop into something special, imo.

[mykidsdad]

Knox looks so average. He is probably just another guy, so I dont get it. Otherwise, good job Beane.

[Poleshifter]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Unless they trade their 5th & 6th to move to 4th, Butler will be gone and everyone else left is just wr meh....Love our first 2 picks and Singletary will be intriguing. Dawson creek Knox landing was too expensive. 

You really should watch the video linked in the OP. Just spend a few minutes, and you may feel much better.

 

What do these B/R draftniks think of the Dawson Knox pick?

 

Two 4th round picks is too expensive?

 

What kind of car do you drive?

 

[Scorp83]

2 hours ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

Some good points... if this is the case... then trade your 5th & 6th & one of your 7th's to get back in the 4th & take Butler. Going off your point... I'm good with not having to draft guy's that's probably gonna end up cut of practice squad. 

2 hours ago, MJS said:

When you have 10 picks you use them to trade up and get better picks. That's what those 4th rounders were there for. And I hope the Bills use more of their lower picks to trade up a bit again. Having a bunch of 4th round and below guys on your team is not super helpful. Yes, you might get lucky with one of them, but generally speaking the higher a guy is drafted the better career he'll have. Generally.

If its Hakeem Butler...then heck yea! He isn't your normal 4th Rd pick... its head scratching why he's still available. I'm guessing defense out shine the position this year. Cause Butler is a good talent... that was projected a 1st rd pick

58 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I look at the Yeldon signing as insurance. Gore will be 36 come preseason, and I have a hard time believing he will be an upgrade from Ivory. The only thing that surprised me about the Singletary pick was that they didn't draft more of a downhill runner. But, I don't hate the pick AT ALL. I think he will be a fun guy to watch, and if his elusiveness can translate to the NFL, he could develop into something special, imo.

Or better yet...draft a WR instead of a RB. 

[Scorp83]

54 minutes ago, mykidsdad said:

Knox looks so average. He is probably just another guy, so I dont get it. Otherwise, good job Beane.

This ⬇️

11 minutes ago, Poleshifter said:

You really should watch the video linked in the OP. Just spend a few minutes, and you may feel much better.

 

What do these B/R draftniks think of the Dawson Knox pick?

 

Two 4th round picks is too expensive?

 

What kind of car do you drive?

 

 

[Kmart128]

Past three drafts have been awesome. Sucks we won't have a true #1 receiever. But we have capable players atleast. Unlike last year.

[Billzgobowlin]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

It's the overall grouping of talent. I don't see what the plan is. Considering that Gore and Shady will likely move on after this season Yeldon and Singletary aren't exactly complementary backs. That's not to say that things can't change.... But.... We don't exactly have a hammer. Yeldon is big but plays soft. It kind of feels like finding two guys to do what Shady does instead of getting a player that can be a reliable 3 down workhorse, or going with the "thunder and lightning" approach.

 

I don't hate the pick. I just don't see what their plan is moving forward.

We always have next years draft to balance the RB room.

[JoPar_v2]

Forgive my ignorance, who is matt miller exactly? Obviously I see he covers the draft for BR, but BR is full of wannabes and know-nothings pretending to know stuff. Does he have a actual pedigree beyond BR? 

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Forgive my ignorance, who is matt miller exactly? Obviously I see he covers the draft for BR, but BR is full of wannabes and know-nothings pretending to know stuff. Does he have a actual pedigree beyond BR? 

 

Matt Miller is one of the best draft guys in the business as has been for a number of years. His scouts notebook column each week during the college football season is a must read. 

 

I did love the line "Knox might not have a load of production but he played with a bad Quarterback in a team that had Metcalf, Brown and Lodge catching the ball.... this isn't Iowa where they just throw to the Tight End every play"

 

??? 

 

Hock jock sniffers take note.

Edited April 27, 2019 by GunnerBill

[longtimebillsfan]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I'm pretty happy with this draft. Grabbing a HB in the 3rd was a bit of a head scratcher when you consider the Yeldon signing, but I love the other picks. I'll just have to have faith on that pick... I just don't see a real plan at HB.

I think Beane was true to his word in taking the BPA in the first three rounds.  If the o-line can mesh early, Allen is set up to have a breakout year.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Matt Miller is one of the best draft guys in the business as has been for a number of years. His scouts notebook column each week during the college football season is a must read. 

 

I did love the line "Knox might not have a load of production but he played with a bad Quarterback in a team that had Metcalf, Brown and Lodge catching the ball.... this isn't Iowa where they just throw to the Tight End every play"

 

??? 

 

Hock jock sniffers take note.

I listen to his Stick to Football podcast and he's been talking up Knox for months, even mentioned him possibly going end of the 1st at one point. I'm super excited about the Oliver, Ford and Knox picks

[GunnerBill]

Just now, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

I listen to his Stick to Football podcast and he's been talking up Knox for months, even mentioned him possibly going end of the 1st at one point. I'm super excited about the Oliver, Ford and Knox picks

 

Same. I don't hate the running back but I don't love it either. Think the other 3 are great picks. 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Same. I don't hate the running back but I don't love it either. Think the other 3 are great picks. 

Exactly where I am, it's nice he gets to learn from Shady and Gore but not a huge learning curve at RB anyway, that pick isn't moving the needle for me either way but I think we killed it otherwise.

[83Reed]

 Having multiple RBs coming out the backfield is going to cause some mismatches. One of those guys are going to get a LB mismatch.Thats where the Yeldon pick up makes sense. He had 487 yds and 4 tds receiving last year. 

Edited April 27, 2019 by 83Reed

[mrags]

4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Unless they trade their 5th & 6th to move to 4th, Butler will be gone and everyone else left is just wr meh....Love our first 2 picks and Singletary will be intriguing. Dawson creek Knox landing was too expensive. 

Butler is my favorite here. I’ve been hoping for him since round 2. But there’s still some good ones to be had

 

Hall

Harmon

Ridley

Johnson

 

thats my order after Butler. I’m really hoping we get one if then. Hopefully Butler tho 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'll give the draft a C. The linemen were safe, ok picks. The "skill" players are unknowns at best. It's a passable draft. I see his plan on offense is to proceed with a legion of average guys. Can't say it excites me.

[cage]

4 hours ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

 

...and don't forget that he'll bag another ROY candidate from the UDFA pool.  So there's that too

[BuffAlone]

14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'll give the draft a C. The linemen were safe, ok picks. The "skill" players are unknowns at best. It's a passable draft. I see his plan on offense is to proceed with a legion of average guys. Can't say it excites me.

The linemen were "safe, ok picks"?  ?

[5ths the charm]

I find it arrogant that anyone can say we don't have holes that a 4th or 5th rounder couldn't fill. That we are going with gadget rbs and project player TEs in the third round?

[BillsFan1988]

4 hours ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

This is exactly how I feel these players can be good but I truly believe Beane panicked when he select "Lil Motor" in the 3rd with Chase Winovich and Jace Sternberger still available then to right his wrong he gave up our 2 4s on Knox. Like u said it's not so much the players in that we paid handsomely for them.  

 

Any GM can look great pkn in the top 10 of the first 2rds but the meat and potatoes in this draft and every draft is the 3rd threw 5th rds. I give Beane a F grade for how he handled the 2nd day starting in the 3rd rd and what makes even more of a head scratcher is that he admitted during his press conference that panicked a Lil bit. 

[CaptnCoke11]

4 hours ago, sven233 said:

My biggest issue with this pick is not the player.  He could turn out to be awesome.  My only concern is giving up 2 4th round picks to get him.  But, it looks like Beane is starting to feel like our roster is getting very close to where he wants it to be and that the chances of these lower round guys making the team is slim.  If that's the case, then this makes giving up the 2 4th rounders a bit easier to swallow.

Well it’s essentially 1 4th round pick because they gained a 3rd 

[BillsFan1988]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

When you have 10 picks you use them to trade up and get better picks. That's what those 4th rounders were there for. And I hope the Bills use more of their lower picks to trade up a bit again. Having a bunch of 4th round and below guys on your team is not super helpful. Yes, you might get lucky with one of them, but generally speaking the higher a guy is drafted the better career he'll have. Generally.

This draft is not top heavy but it has great depth all the way threw the 5th rd. From the 3rd to 5 has basically the same caliber players . Beane fumbled the draft when he took Singletary then he had to correct his wrong by moving up for Knox. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

18 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said:

I find it arrogant that anyone can say we don't have holes that a 4th or 5th rounder couldn't fill. That we are going with gadget rbs and project player TEs in the third round?

 

....and what value have Meatball or Milano shown (COUGH)??.............

[BillsFan1988]

2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Well it’s essentially 1 4th round pick because they gained a 3rd 

To me we wasted 2 pks for nothing . 

 

Singletary- Small and slow doesn't equal workhorse . His highlight videos are against some crappy schools . Yes he's shifty and does his best impression of McCoy but after carrying the ball more then 700 times in college gives the feel that we bought an old sports car with a with some serious dents and a ton of miles.

 

 

 

 

[zevo]

37 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'll give the draft a C. The linemen were safe, ok picks. The "skill" players are unknowns at best. It's a passable draft. I see his plan on offense is to proceed with a legion of average guys. Can't say it excites me.

You are absolutely the worst poster on this board...congrats!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

21 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

The linemen were "safe, ok picks"?  ?

 

Yes. They followed the BPA model, that makes them safe and ok. 

Just now, zevo said:

You are absolutely the worst poster on this board...congrats!

 

The unmitigated gall for not fawning over every pick! How dare I?

 

Lol

[BuffAlone]

12 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yes. They followed the BPA model, that makes them safe and ok. 

 

The unmitigated gall for not fawning over every pick! How dare I?

 

Lol

I think both are more than just "safe and ok" players. 

[ProcessAccepted]

46 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'll give the draft a C. The linemen were safe, ok picks. The "skill" players are unknowns at best. It's a passable draft. I see his plan on offense is to proceed with a legion of average guys. Can't say it excites me.

Oh no only a C?!!! Is there anyway for Beane to earn extra credit to move things to a B.

 

The use of the word "safe" to describe the linemen picks makes me think that you are attempting a little amateur trolling here. I've seen worse efforts but there's definitely room for you to improve. I'm giving your trolling efforts a B- but saying you have potential.