Mahomes would like to challenge Allen to a throwing contest for charity

[Augie]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Just a bit of fun, I guess.

 

I’m all for fun and charity. Maxing out on a lot of things can mean some risk. I realize a lot of people think this is silly,  but we’ve been waiting on our QB for a long, loooong time, and I hate to risk any damage to the man’s most important tool. It’s fine to disagree, I’m the cautious type with something so important. I’m a wimp, I get it. 

[RyanC883]

I can't imagine that either team would allow their QB to do this.   It's a terrible idea due to injury risk.  Although there is some sort of mutual respect brewing between JA and Mahomes that is fun to watch. 

Edited April 5, 2019 by RyanC883

[Chuck Wagon]

I imagine the national media would view Mahomes as an overwhelming favorite.  Would be fun if JA out threw (and out "accurate'd") Mahomes.

[Rob's House]

I'd rather see a charity match in the octagon.

[WideNine]

15 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Bad idea for both QBs.

 

This..

 

I know it is a buzz kill, but too easy for me to imagine something going wrong.

 

Protect the investment for now...

 

 

 

[Seoulofstone]

27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

I can't imagine that either team would allow their QB to do this.   It's a terrible idea due to injury risk.  Although there is some sort of mutual respect brewing between JA and Mahomes that is fun to watch. 

 

 Please explain this to me. Terrible risk? When was the last time a QB was taken out of a game by straining his arm by throwing? Check that. Has it EVER happened? It must be a regular occurrence the way some people here are talking. I genuinely cannot see any grounds for concern if common sense is applied.

 

 I get that people are protective of their QB but this is insane! 

 

 Here’s a radical idea. How about holding this in the off-season?

 

 Please someone explain the insane risk because this line absolutely boggles my mind.

[RyanC883]

28 minutes ago, Seoul_panther said:

 

 Please explain this to me. Terrible risk? When was the last time a QB was taken out of a game by straining his arm by throwing? Check that. Has it EVER happened? It must be a regular occurrence the way some people here are talking. I genuinely cannot see any grounds for concern if common sense is applied.



 

 I get that people are protective of their QB but this is insane! 

 

 Here’s a radical idea. How about holding this in the off-season?

 

 Please someone explain the insane risk because this line absolutely boggles my mind.

 

1.  I did not say it was a "terrible risk," but a "terrible idea" because of the risk.  There is zero reward, and there is risk. 

 

2.  This event is totally different than a QB throwing during a game.  The idea of "who can throw it further," is much more akin to a pitcher in baseball straining his arm to the max to throw a fastball, etc.  During a game, a QB is throwing a variety of throws at various speeds, likely never "red-lining" their arm.  This contest would involve throwing it as far as possible, ask., pushing your arm to its limit.  That's dangerous. 

 

 

 

[One Buffalo]

Another Twitter poll... Right now Mahomes is winning 64-36, with close to 2700 votes

 

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by One Buffalo

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:

Another Twitter poll... Right now Mahomes is winning 64-36, with close to 2700 votes

 

 

 

https://www.stack.com/a/josh-allen-threw-a-66-14-mph-pass-at-the-senior-bowl-no-qb-at-the-nfl-combine-has-ever-exceeded-60

 

based on measures I’ve seen Josh may have the strongest arm the NFL has ever seen. 

 

Mahommes would lose 

[WideNine]

3 hours ago, eball said:

Fearing injury to Josh is the most BBFS thing ever.  This would be fun and generate interest in both Josh and the Bills.

 

I know right?

 

I was fear mongering too, but realistically Allen has 300 LB defensive tackles who can run sub-5 40's wanting to crush him each play, so wrapping him in bubble wrap doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

Plus the kid thinks he can run through them, or leap over them.

 

Must be a knee-jerk negative outlook reaction to years of seeing defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

 

Hard to be a Bills fan and not have "How could this go horribly wrong?" tattooed on your brain.

 

 

 

 

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

I love Allen.  I love the kids moxie.  I love his skills.  I love his commitment.

 

That said I would very much prefer if we found a way to keep his body in a bubble of some sort, I don't know as I am not skilled in these things, maybe a space age polymer or possibly a large amount of silly putty...which may be a space age polymer.  Again, I don't know what a polymer is, let alone a space age one.

 

I just want him kept there until September.

 

...I am not a greedy person.

Edited April 5, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Just now, dollars 2 donuts said:

I love Allen.  I love the kids moxie.  I love his skills.  I love his commitment.

 

That said I would very much prefer if we found a way to keep his body in a bubble of some sort, I don't know as I am not skilled in these things, maybe a space age polymer or possibly a large amount of silly putty...which may be a space age polymer.  Again, I don't know what a polymer is, let alone a space age one.

 

I just kept there until September.

 

...I am not a greedy person.

Post of the day. Perhaps we could plant a TBD mole inside NASA, and 5-finger discount us some of those new Martian settlement space suits they’re working on? Surely those have a lot of cutting edge polymers we’ve never heard of, whatever they are. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Post of the day. Perhaps we could plant a TBD mole inside NASA, and 5-finger discount us some of those new Martian settlement space suits they’re working on? Surely those have a lot of cutting edge polymers we’ve never heard of, whatever they are. 

 

 

Two words, Huds:

 

Bills

 

 

 

Mafia

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Two words, Huds:

 

Bills

 

 

 

Mafia

Of course!!! Breaking a table = know how to pick a biometric lock, Vulcan neck pinch the bored security guards on duty and get away with those wonderful polymers, ala Mission: Impossible music plays in the background...you’re very welcome McBeane, now go make it happen and protect our franchise’s right shoulder!!

[Ralonzo]

13 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

The penalty is called offside. There is no additional “S.”

In Latvia there is

[Beast]

13 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

The penalty is called offside. There is no additional “S.”

 

You tell him Jay Fixits!

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

18 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd love to see it.  Would be cool if Rodgers and Stafford participated as well.  Hell, invite Jamarcus Russell. 

 

...paging Chad Pennington.............

[Rufridr101]

Mahomes upset Josh won play of the year 

[Chandler#81]

5 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said:

Mahomes upset Josh won play of the year 

 

Yep, notice Mahomie didn’t challenge Josh to a ‘Leap the LB’ competition..  juss sayin’

[Seoulofstone]

3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

During a game, a QB is throwing a variety of throws at various speeds, likely never "red-lining" their arm.  This contest would involve throwing it as far as possible, ask., pushing your arm to its limit.  That's dangerous. 

 

 You have no idea what the specifics are of this contest because it hasn’t even been decided yet. You’re incredibly naive if you think that anyone would allow them to come close to red-lining their arms.

 

If you genuinely think QBs don’t try to throw the ball as far as they can during practice I don’t know what to tell you. I mean you honestly think that Darnold and Allen haven’t been working on their deep balls at the QB camp they’re attending?

 

 

 

[BringBackFlutie]

3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Of course!!! Breaking a table = know how to pick a biometric lock, Vulcan neck pinch the bored security guards on duty and get away with those wonderful polymers, ala Mission: Impossible music plays in the background...you’re very welcome McBeane, now go make it happen and protect our franchise’s right shoulder!!

But how many polymers do we need?  Can we carry all of them?  Should I bring a backpack?  Should I bring a six pack?  Can I MAKE either of those out of the polymers once I get there?

[NoHuddleKelly12]

23 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said:

But how many polymers do we need?  Can we carry all of them?  Should I bring a backpack?  Should I bring a six pack?  Can I MAKE either of those out of the polymers once I get there?

We need at least as many as Gronkowski boasts in his cyborg elbow club...I have a feeling that would help provide us with an unfair advantage 

[MacGyver]

Remember that Patriots rookie RB that tore his knee up in a beach flag football game?

 

Allen should concentrate on his footwork in the offseason.

Edited April 6, 2019 by MacGyver

[#34fan]

Give us Travis Kelce for charity, moth********r.

[Warcodered]

6 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I love Allen.  I love the kids moxie.  I love his skills.  I love his commitment.

 

That said I would very much prefer if we found a way to keep his body in a bubble of some sort, I don't know as I am not skilled in these things, maybe a space age polymer or possibly a large amount of silly putty...which may be a space age polymer.  Again, I don't know what a polymer is, let alone a space age one.

 

I just want him kept there until September.

 

...I am not a greedy person.

I've got an idea how about we freeze him in carbonite then just thaw him out when we need him.

[Oldfan]

9 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

I can't imagine that either team would allow their QB to do this.   It's a terrible idea due to injury risk.  Although there is some sort of mutual respect brewing between JA and Mahomes that is fun to watch. 

Injury? Mahomes literally throws deep passes in the offseason for fun

 

I bet Josh Allen does the same

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Oldfan said:

Injury? Mahomes literally throws deep passes in the offseason for fun

 

I bet Josh Allen does the same

I know this is unpopular, but I’m used to that. ?

 

Both of my sons placed in the HS state weightlifting championship in Florida. Not South Dakota, but extremely competitive Florida. Tossing deep passes is different from maxing out. You save maxing out for extreme situations, not for fan entertainment, or even charity. I’ll give to charity to avoid the (minimal) risk. 

 

I know people might ridicule this, possibly including the two QB’s involved! I just see maxing out as taking a risk. I heard guys from the combine say they could have done better at the 40, but it wasn’t worth the risk of injury. Obviously, part of that is self serving, but part of it is true. 

 

Again, I realize how minimal the risk is. Any unnecessary risk is too much risk. That’s just me.....

Edited April 6, 2019 by Augie

[Warcodered]

It's not like they don't throw as hard as they can in games or probably even in practice. They might not be trying to throw as far as they can but on some of those lasers they've fired they're probably in the ballpark for as hard as they can throw it just doesn't have a long ball trajectory.

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It's not like they don't throw as hard as they can in games or probably even in practice. They might not be trying to throw as far as they can but on some of those lasers they've fired they're probably in the ballpark for as hard as they can throw it just doesn't have a long ball trajectory.

 

I wish this would happen less on screen passes.     ?

 

 

I know my position is unpopular and in the minority. I play some things safe, and this is one. One of my sons got hurt trying to max out on a clean and jerk before the championships, and it cost him dearly. Crushed it on the bench, inability to practice clean and jerk (which is mostly technique) set him WAY back. Unnecessary max out hurt him. This could be a “me thing”. I admit it. 

[Westside Madness]

Pull a Seinfeld...'I choose not to throw!'...

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

I know this is unpopular, but I’m used to that. ?

 

Both of my sons placed in the HS state weightlifting championship in Florida. Not South Dakota, but extremely competitive Florida. Tossing deep passes is different from maxing out. You saving maxing out for extreme situations, not for fan entertainment, or even charity. I’ll give to charity to avoid the (minimal) risk. 

 

I know people might ridicule this, possibly including the two QB’s involved! I just see maxing out as taking a risk. I heard guys from the combine say they could have done better at the 40, but it wasn’t worth the risk of injury. Obviously, part of that is self serving, but part of it is true. 

 

Again, I realize how minimal the risk is. Any unnecessary risk is too much risk. That’s just me.....

 

If Allen and Mahomes don't understand the difference between maxing out and being competitive, they won't be long in the NFL anyway...

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

If Allen and Mahomes don't understand the difference between maxing out and being competitive, they won't be long in the NFL anyway...

Cool. 

 

But that makes no sense. 

 

The only way they compete here is to max out on distance. Not worth it in my opinion. Most will disagree, and I can live with that. But at least I understand the point. I don’t mean that in a derisive way, honestly. (At this point.) 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

Cool. 

 

But that makes no sense. 

 

The only way they compete here is to max out on distance. Not worth it in my opinion. Most will disagree, and I can live with that. But at least I understand the point. I don’t mean that in a derisive way, honestly. (At this point.) 

 

If Allen is dumb enough to hurt himself in a meaningless charity competition, he was never going to make it in the NFL anyway. 

 

Look at RG3. He was having a phenomenal rookie season, got hurt, then returned too early in a playoff game and ruined his career. 

 

Garoppolo ruined his season (career remains to be seen) by pushing for an extra yard on a scramble and shredded his knee. 

 

Players that do not understand where that line is (between maxing out and being competitive) get seriously injured and do not last in the NFL. 

[LSHMEAB]

On 4/4/2019 at 7:59 PM, sven233 said:

 

Yup.  From day one you could just tell that he comes off as a nice, likable young man, but there is just something about him that says inside, he is a cocky SOB that believes he can do anything better than you. 

 

And you know what?  That is exactly the kind of persona and attitude I want want my QB to have.

I am not convinced Allen will pan out, but this analysis of his attitude is spot on. Awe shucks with the media. This is my field between the lines. 

 

That attitude could conceivably differentiate him from other QB's with similar issues. There's definitely hope.

[dollars 2 donuts]

11 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I've got an idea how about we freeze him in carbonite then just thaw him out when we need him.

 

 

He should be very well preserved, as long as he survives the freezing process.

 

Now put him on the wall and let’s get dancing, Max Rebo!

[HOUSE]

Next Up, Josh Allen vs Blake Bortles

Edited April 6, 2019 by HOUSE

[K-9]

19 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

https://www.stack.com/a/josh-allen-threw-a-66-14-mph-pass-at-the-senior-bowl-no-qb-at-the-nfl-combine-has-ever-exceeded-60

 

based on measures I’ve seen Josh may have the strongest arm the NFL has ever seen. 

 

Mahommes would lose 

Yep. And in the measured velocity tests, Allen threw 62mph to both the left and right, a combine record. Mahomes was a full 7mph slower at 55mph in both directions at his combine. And I don’t recall exactly who the sports science guy is that conducts his tests, but Allen set a record for fastest recorded arm speed as well. Something like 74mph. 

 

None of that means Allen would automatically win a longest throw contest, but the physics involved show he has a distinct advantage. 

[C.Biscuit97]

Not to be a party pooper, but this would be super corny.  Who cares?  Do people really watch long drive golf events?  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

Cast your votes 

[qwksilver]

For those of you that want to make it interesting please see below:

 It's an online casino. I left out the name of the casino in case that breaks any rules...

Sorry copy and pasted 2 2 many times.

Edited April 10, 2019 by qwksilver