IgotBILLStopay Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) We do need a defensive end. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26415157/source-browns-ogbah-no-shows-expects-trade 1.35 mill - so very reasonable salary and that too is not guaranteed. Natural fit for a 4-3 defense - can line up at either end - he is quick enough to handle left tackles and large enough to hold right tackles at bay. Only problem is that he is a bit inconsistent. I think a 5th or lower draft pick should do it - will be a Ragland like trade. Also what about Duke Johnson at RB? He averaged 5 yards an attempt in limited opportunities and is on the outside looking in after the Kareem hunt signing. Our Rb situation (with the oldies) is quite attractive to people looking for playing time. Edited April 1, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Is he honestly any better than Shaq, Trent or Hughes? Maybe he is a bit more talented, though untapped. Wouldn't we be better off just drafting a guy rather than throwing the pics away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Is he honestly any better than Shaq, Trent or Hughes? Maybe he is a bit more talented, though untapped. Wouldn't we be better off just drafting a guy rather than throwing the pics away. Well we need some depth on the DL. And I think he is a better pass rusher than Lawson but has a poorer motor. That is why he is inconsistent. But in a contract year, he will be plenty motivated. Edited April 1, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Duke Johnson a no show is interesting. I can see him being traded. Buffalo unlikely. I see some team giving a 3rd or higher for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I'd absolutely trade for Ogbah. Yeah, buddy. Think a 4th would do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I would send a 3rd and 5th and ask for both please. They both fit in nicely for what this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) There's very high expectations and a lot of personalities in that locker room for a 1st time head coach.... Edited April 1, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Duke Johnson a no show is interesting. I can see him being traded. Buffalo unlikely. I see some team giving a 3rd or higher for him. Trading for Duke would allow us to not take a RB in the top end to middle of draft......he is a young guy that can be groomed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: There's very high expectations and a lot of personalities in that locker room for a 1st time head coach.... Get outta my kitchens with that attitude! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Reminds me of Shaq, just not quick enough off the snap to be anything but a JAG. He will probably have a healthier and more productive season than Murphy though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) To the Chiefs: Edited April 1, 2019 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: To the Chiefs: makes sense as they will need 4-3 DE in new defense. Wonder where KC plays Chris Jones now? maybe 3T? Tillery from ND has very similar build/skill set to Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, freddyjj said: makes sense as they will need 4-3 DE in new defense. Wonder where KC plays Chris Jones now? maybe 3T? Tillery from ND has very similar build/skill set to Jones. I can't see them moving Jones. His 15.5 sacks say you don't do anything different based on Ogbah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Why the Duke Johnson love affair? I’d take him off their hands if they wanted to give US a draft pick. 3 mill, 5 mill 6 mill cap hits. He’s a decent player but he’s a RB that’s getting paid. Not thanks. i wasn’t an ogbah guy when he was available. Glad we didn’t draft him then. Low upside imo. Similar to what we have. If give up a 6th most Good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: I can't see them moving Jones. His 15.5 sacks say you don't do anything different based on Ogbah. Spags will be switching them to 4-3. Ragland likely out of a job again as poor fit in 4-3 at MLB and Jones is likely 3T DT. https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/25/chiefs-defense-new-look-under-defensive-coordinator-steve-spagnuolo/ On passing downs Jones rushed from interior spot as DT in old Chiefs D. Edited April 1, 2019 by freddyjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Spags will be switching them to 4-3. Ragland likely out of a job again as poor fit in 4-3 at MLB and Jones is likely 3T DT. https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/25/chiefs-defense-new-look-under-defensive-coordinator-steve-spagnuolo/ On passing downs Jones rushed from interior spot as DT in old Chiefs D. I realize they are switching defense and my point was that Ogbah's acquisition doesn't factor in to the decision as to where they play Jones in the defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Duke Johnson is the guy we should want. Hope they get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Well we need some depth on the DL. And I think he is a better pass rusher than Lawson but has a poorer motor. That is why he is inconsistent. But in a contract year, he will be plenty motivated. ...if you put Shaq in the conversation, you have to consider his 5th year option decision due in May at $10+ mil as a 1st rounder.....don't think it is an impediment with Ogbah kid......may have to have a modest extension in place before pulling the trigger on a trade unless you keep Shaq on his option number......or decline and let Shaq test the market and you could get him back as I doubt there will be any megabucks suitors (probably wrong...crazy money exists)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Bam: Trade me: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Bam: Trade me: NFL trade rumors: Here’s an Eagles deal for Browns’ Duke Johnson that makes some sense Updated 2:52 PM; Today 2:35 PM-NJ.com The Eagles have already traded for one running back. Perhaps they might pursue another. Last week, the Eagles acquired Jordan Howard from the Chicago Bears in exchange for a 2020 conditional sixth-round pick. It didn’t come entirely as a surprise, as the Eagles had been tied to two running backs in particular in the trade market since the official start of the offseason in March. Taking all of that into consideration, here’s one swap involving Johnson that I think makes some sense. Eagles get: RB Duke Johnson, Browns 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 170) Browns get: RB Corey Clement, Eagles’ 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 163) and a 2020 seventh-round pick (via Buccaneers) https://www.nj.com/eagles/2019/04/nfl-trade-rumors-heres-an-eagles-trade-for-browns-duke-johnson-that-makes-some-sense.html Edited April 1, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Pretty darn good crystal ball OP. Better than pretty good, so I'll be watching your future posts more closely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Duke Johnson all day long! Solid back, shifty, can catch out of the backfield- I would love for the Bills to grab him but if not theres other guys like him in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 We should jump in on the Duke Johnson thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Get outta my kitchens with that attitude! Throw the kitchens sink at him Yolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Duke would be a great piece to start a RB stable, then draft a RB and have them learn from Shady and Gore. Would be a great step towards the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Why the Duke Johnson love affair? I’d take him off their hands if they wanted to give US a draft pick. 3 mill, 5 mill 6 mill cap hits. He’s a decent player but he’s a RB that’s getting paid. Not thanks. i wasn’t an ogbah guy when he was available. Glad we didn’t draft him then. Low upside imo. Similar to what we have. If give up a 6th most Good. People have heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We should jump in on the Duke Johnson thing Way too young at 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Ogbah traded to Chiefs for Eric Murray... https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/04/01/emmanuel-ogbah-trade-chiefs-deal-eric-murray-browns-lineman/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Trading for Duke would allow us to not take a RB in the top end to middle of draft......he is a young guy that can be groomed. He is also very expensive for a RB on top of what they are paying Shady... I’ll take the Day 3 rookie thanks.. plenty to choose from this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Is he honestly any better than Shaq, Trent or Hughes? Maybe he is a bit more talented, though untapped. Wouldn't we be better off just drafting a guy rather than throwing the pics away. Probably would of said the same thing yrs bk about Hughes I say do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Trading for Duke would allow us to not take a RB in the top end to middle of draft......he is a young guy that can be groomed. i would love to get Duke. I just think some team will overpay for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Duke would be a great fit for da Bears Edited April 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Duke would be a great fit for da Bears Well....seeing as how we appear to be biulding our team much like the bears then why not us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: People have heard of him. That and it's a position of need and he's been very productive. He's a bit more than - I've heard of him and you should give some benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Very similar to a younger Shady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 NOPE! -Let's get younger, and better.... Build through the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) If I were the Bills...and had the cap space you all do...I'd totally be all over Duke as a trade target....If KC had any room...I'd want him in KC. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Of the 62 RBs w at least 250 early down rushes+targets the last 3 years, Duke Johnson ranks:<br><br>#2 in yards/play (5.8)<br>#3 in explosiveness<br>#7 in success rate (52%)<br><br>Only 2 RBs rank in the top-10 in all 3 metrics: Johnson & Alvin Kamara.<br><br>Duke Johnson is a weapon & a solid asset. <a href="https://t.co/0ij68lSVkw">https://t.co/0ij68lSVkw</a></p>— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1112866590381494272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Edited April 2, 2019 by Zerovotlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: If I were the Bills...and had the cap space you all do...I'd totally be all over Duke as a trade target....If KC had any room...I'd want him in KC. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Of the 62 RBs w at least 250 early down rushes+targets the last 3 years, Duke Johnson ranks:<br><br>#2 in yards/play (5.8)<br>#3 in explosiveness<br>#7 in success rate (52%)<br><br>Only 2 RBs rank in the top-10 in all 3 metrics: Johnson & Alvin Kamara.<br><br>Duke Johnson is a weapon & a solid asset. <a href="https://t.co/0ij68lSVkw">https://t.co/0ij68lSVkw</a></p>— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1112866590381494272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Your tweet embedding is as good as your thread creating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: Your tweet embedding is as good as your thread creating. lol....so uh....how do you embed a tweet here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Well....seeing as how we appear to be biulding our team much like the bears then why not us? I wouldn’t mind it but I just meant he would fit their offense. He’s almost more of a slot receiver than a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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