billsfan_34 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Virgil said: I honestly think I’m going to make my first professional bet. Not sure how that works. I can’t see less than 7 wins this year Bet they will win more than 6 - the over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinInThe781 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Pete said: Massachusetts now has sports betting. Last I seen- Vegas had the odds of Buffalo winning SB 100-1 and AFC 65-1. I am not sure what Mass offers. But I would like to get in on those odds before the draft. 6 wins over is a gift! We play Miami twice Massachusetts does not have sports betting yet. Twin River Casino, which does offer sports gambling, is in Rhode Island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, Augie said: Exactly! And the baby is sleeping? They left us no choice! Oh hell yeah bro. ***** that baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I know @mead107 will agree. they are 13 wins off! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: The stations app has Kyler Murray -500 to be the #1 pick. Take advantage. Some other sites have it at -2000 That's MayWeather/McGregor territory. Now THAT was the best bet I've ever seen at -400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Supposed to happen by May. I know Tioga has already been approved to lower slots to clear space. https://www.legalsportsreport.com/27734/ny-sports-betting-may-launch-spring/ ...delLago has also applied...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's MayWeather/McGregor territory. Now THAT was the best bet I've ever seen at -400. Oh man. I couldn’t sway my wife to allow me to bet my life savings on that one. Made myself a g, but I really wanted to bet my life on that one. 50-0 vs 0-0. Free money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Oh man. I couldn’t sway my wife to allow me to bet my life savings on that one. Made myself a g, but I really wanted to bet my life on that one. 50-0 vs 0-0. Free money. The ONLY way that bet loses is if Mayweather gets hurt or some other bizarre occurence. But I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, /dev/null said: NYS isn't going to legalize sports betting anytime soon, at least until they figure out how to regulate the industry so the state can generate revenue from the venture ...Guido Cuomo will be on that cash cow quick....thank God we're not in PA......brutal....our company had to get licensed by PA Gaming Commission to do construction work in the casinos.....$12,000 application fee...had to go through TWO NYS Police and PA State Police background checks, fingerprinting, FBI background check and a one hour "face to face" interview with examiners as well as providing personal financial statement, etc.....NYS has nothing like that..any company wanting to enter the sports gambling business in PA has to submit to these rigors......examiners are flying to Europe because companies there want entry into PA sports gaming market..... Edited March 31, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 The fish should be a guaranteed 2 wins. I’m putting $500 on the over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: The ONLY way that bet loses is if Mayweather gets hurt or some other bizarre occurence. But I digress. Both fighters made me sweat out the first few rounds. Conor executed his gameplan early while it seemed Floyd was just in there to tire out the Irishman and seal the deal late. I enjoyed it much more more than I thought I would’ve. Just waiting to see who Terrence Crawford fights after Kahn. While I can’t see Crawford losing, I don’t feel comfortable laying -1000 vs Kahn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: Rather than get angry, why not just get a bet down? Exactly. I'm about to put a very large sum on the over for Buffalo, it's completely legal here in Jersey. We literally had 1 significant loss out of 53 players (Kyle Williams) and made huge improvements on OL,WR and QB. I say QB because Peterman started the year and Allen looked great after week 9 . We are legit playoff contenders imo. The totals are more about how teams are perceived by the country. Most non Bill fans perceive us as a losing team . Most Bills fans know that's b.s. Elite defense still intact , with major upgrades to ST and O , plus a weaker schedule. This is Easy $$$ , over 6 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pete said: Massachusetts now has sports betting. Last I seen- Vegas had the odds of Buffalo winning SB 100-1 and AFC 65-1. I am not sure what Mass offers. But I would like to get in on those odds before the draft. 6 wins over is a gift! We play Miami twice This type of thinking makes me think Vegas knows something the fans don’t, myself included. But generally these total O/U always are between 11 and 4 even though every year some teams win 12,13, even 14 and some 3, 2, and even 1 or 0. Edited March 31, 2019 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Here’s tomorrow’s Shtupp and the Bulldog’s topic for a segment or two. You mean how they would be surprised if they won 4 games let alone over 6? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, dubs said: This type of thinking makes me think Vegas knows something the fans don’t, myself included. But generally these total O/U always are between 11 and 4 even though every year some teams win 12,13, even 14 and some 3, 2, and even 1 or 0. Their purpose is not to NAIL the number. Their purpose is to get equal action on both the over and the under. The casual fans will bet over's and big bettor's are generally looking for under's. The Bills could win 12 games or they could win 4. Let's hope it's in the 9-11 range. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I wish NYS would hurry up and get sports betting up and running, I know Vegas knows all but I'd still take that over Atlantic City has sportsbooks now. Take a little vacation. The one inside Resorts and Tropicana are very nice. Edited March 31, 2019 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Atlantic City has sportsbooks now. Take a little vacation. The one inside Resorts and Tropicana are very nice. Sucks Theodore that I can bet every horse track on my Twin Spires account but not sports betting. Oh well saves me $$$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26405507/browns-see-projected-win-total-jump-3-games Bills at 6? Really? What a joke... Yes, big bet here I come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Brings back memories from a few weeks ago when people were giving me crap for saying the over under would probably be 5.5-6.5. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, QCity said: We have the "Offended by Vegas predictions" thread every year. If you were outraged by last season's low win prediction and made a wager, you lost. Just walk away. Sportsbooks are built on exploiting homerism. not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mramefa Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Does anyone know what sites this bet is available on? I checked Bovada, but they seem to just have superbowl futures right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, klos63 said: for the Bills or other teams? For you, the other team. I'll take the Bills 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Prove them wrong then... take their money. They said 4 last year. We won six. They said 5 in 2017. We won 9 and made the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Really, right? People do not understand how "Vegas" works. How does it work? Honest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: For you, the other team. I'll take the Bills They said 4 last year. We won six. They said 5 in 2017. We won 9 and made the playoffs. I was asking if you thought you should add 2 wins to whatever vegas says to just the bills or all teams. I don't understand your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, nrenegar said: Does anyone know what sites this bet is available on? I checked Bovada, but they seem to just have superbowl futures right now. Being in NJ, I checked Draft Kings, Borgata and even William Hill - no win totals. Maybe they go up tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26405507/browns-see-projected-win-total-jump-3-games Bills at 6? Really? What a joke... Get you're bets in now boys and girls. Vegas is throwing Buffalo a bone. Put $1000 on the over and enjoy the reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: How does it work? Honest question. Sports books pick a line/spread/over-under/money line etc to lure in the bets. The betting action then determines the adjustment of the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: How does it work? Honest question. They want balance in what side people are taking, and the general population thinks we have sucked and WILL suck. Over/under of 6 is about what the world expects based on limited knowledge. If the bets are balanced, they don’t lose their shirts. (Qualifier: I’m the last person who should try to explain this stuff! I’m open to anyone’s with better knowledge. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26405507/browns-see-projected-win-total-jump-3-games Bills at 6? Really? What a joke... 20 years running, why quit now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, QCity said: We have the "Offended by Vegas predictions" thread every year. If you were outraged by last season's low win prediction and made a wager, you lost. Just walk away. Sportsbooks are built on exploiting homerism. And the year before you made good money. They guess just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: And the year before you made good money. They guess just like everyone else. yeah okay.... LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: yeah okay.... LOL.... Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate. you have tabulated every single prediction they have made and determined they were wrong that often? i think you are just pulling that out of your behind based on one or two things you "recalled." Vegas isn't out to be "accurate", it is out to make $$$ and it does this quite quite well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, klos63 said: I was asking if you thought you should add 2 wins to whatever vegas says to just the bills or all teams. I don't understand your answer. Sorry. I feel Vegas under-predicts by the Bills by 2 games. Probably because non-Bills followers assume we suck. I would bet money on the over if they are saying 4 wins. We got six with what roster? Edited March 31, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate. They're most certainly not guessing. They composite a power index based on data and set the numbers accordingly. Of course teams will outperform/under perform those metrics every year. They're not just throwing random numbers around. Too much cash involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Hammer the over, we got 6 wins with Peterman, Anderson and Barkley starting 4 games last year lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Always add two to these predictions. You must be rich betting the over on the bills every year 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpbills Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 how does the on line betting work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, row_33 said: you have tabulated every single prediction they have made and determined they were wrong that often? i think you are just pulling that out of your behind based on one or two things you "recalled." Vegas isn't out to be "accurate", it is out to make $$$ and it does this quite quite well... I didn't recall anything. I've looked at their predictions over the past few years and saw many instances where they were multiple games off. What you say is true. The want to make money. They don't care about wins and losses. Their lines are made according to general fan sentiment, not on how many games they think teams will win or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: They're most certainly not guessing. They composite a power index based on data and set the numbers accordingly. Of course teams will outperform/under perform those metrics every year. They're not just throwing random numbers around. Too much cash involved. Obviously they are making educated guesses, but those guesses aren't based on how they view teams will perform, they are based on how they believe fans will bet. The general fan will not have a good opinion of the Bills, even though the Bills, for those who follow the team, appear to have gotten better and signs point to more than 6 wins. This is different than last year. Most who followed the Bills expected a down year last season. 6 wins was spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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