row_33 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) there is legit potential and grounds for more optimism than most of the last 20 years but inertia and tradition requires the annual 6-10 and hoping it's way too low all i ask is they don't start 4-1 and end up 6-10 Edited March 22, 2019 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 22 hours ago, BmarvB said: 10-6 looks doable to me, but 9-7 seems more realistic with this schedule. Matt Parrino is calling for a split with the pats. I have my doubts about that one. http://expo.newyorkupstate.com/sports/g66l-2019/03/470e89ce66cd4/buffalo-bills-2019-schedule-gamebygame-predictions-playoffs.html I think if Josh Allen makes no improvement this year over last year this is currently an 8-8, even before the draft. If he is improved, even noticeably improved, I think it is no less than 9-7, maybe 10-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I always want to predict 10-6 or better Are Josh's eyes closed? Is he seeking a higher wisdom by touching Saint Thomas? you were referring to the Pats right? "You used to be the GOAT"?Or was it "I aint got time to talk to a game manager type QB, where is Brees" Edited March 22, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's a little early, since we haven't had the draft yet. Lots could still change. But let's try anyway. I always try tackling the schedule from a few different angles. Based purely on last year's results, the Bills will play 7 games against teams with winning records in 2018 (NE x 2, BAL, PIT, TEN, DAL, PHI). They will play 9 games against teams with losing records (MIA x2, NYJ x 2, CIN, CLE, DEN, WAS, NYG). They will play 5 games against teams who finished with the same or worse records than us at 6-10 (NYJ x 2, CIN, DEN, NYG). Based solely on my own personal roster assessments (no scientific evidence), I anticipate NE, PIT and MIA to be marginally worse next season. I also anticipate NYJ and CLE to be better next season. I consider BAL to be a total wildcard, depending on the development of Lamar Jackson. The other teams appear on the surface to be roughly the same as last season. Depending on the draft results, we could face up to 5 teams with rookie QBs this year (MIA x2, DEN, WAS, NYG). The only teams we seem to be facing with elite level QBs would be NE x 2, PIT and PHI. Bottom line -- Our schedule next season (at this point) appears to be one of the easiest I've seen in awhile. Outside of New England, we don't play any of the elite teams from last year like KC, LAC, NO, LAR. We aren't facing many of the young up-and-coming teams like IND, HOU or CHI. Our toughest opponents just may come from the other teams with developing quarterbacks like NYJ and CLE. We finished 6-10 last year, despite a brutal schedule, a rookie QB and virtually no talent on offense. That record also counts Nathan Peterman and Derek Anderson basically throwing 4 games in the trash and Charles Clay dropping a game-winning touchdown. Clay makes that catch and we go 4-2 after Allen's return from injury. I think we are better everywhere on offense and face a significantly easier schedule. If Allen makes any kind of progress, I fully expect us to win at least 9-11 games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: "You used to be the GOAT"?Or was it "I aint got time to talk to a game manager type QB, where is Brees" he would be the stupidest moron in the history of sports to even THINK that, let alone say it Edited March 22, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 23 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: The draft could push us into the playoffs if done in a sane way imo. I think that we both can agree that 6-8 wins would be quite depressing. Anything less than 8-8 is a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9-7 feels about right to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Hard to predict. The defense was #2, which is so unbelievable to me. I don't feel like it was that good. They should be pretty good next year. a stat like that is only worth about 25% of the evaluation of reality don't make it 125% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Hard to predict. The defense was #2, which is so unbelievable to me. I don't feel like it was that good. They should be pretty good next year. The offense was better towards the end of the season. Everything is pointing to a good season next year, I just don't know. Defense at #2 was a big surprise considering how many times they got blown out, offense did get better towards the end of the season except for the running game. If the OL is truly upgraded, and the running game gets going like it once was, 10-6 has a chance but we can't allow teams to run all over us on the ground. If Fournette didn't get stupid, Jacksonville would have beaten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Hard to predict. The defense was #2, which is so unbelievable to me. I don't feel like it was that good. They should be pretty good next year. The offense was better towards the end of the season. Everything is pointing to a good season next year, I just don't know. 2nd in yards allowed. I believe they were about 19th in points. My guess would be they allowed points on a short field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I'm feeling 10 and 6 with a very close playoff game...I'll be optimistic...I think we win one game in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 If that schitty team from 2017 could win 9 games, anything less than 10 this season will be a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Too early. If they pulled off a big trade for Julio Jones and shored up the defensive line sky's the limit, as they could be right up there with the Browns on teams expected to make a big jump to Superbowl contender, but they are a conservative group whom are slow playing thing and really value their college scouting and drafting. That said, anything worse then 9-7 would be disappointing, IMO. the Browns are now a SuperBowl contender.... every frickin year with this... you have to earn wins on the football field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 hours ago, DCOrange said: It's not impossible, but Vegas is pretty good at this. Over the past 9 seasons, Vegas has been off on the Bills win total by a total of 1 win. The over has won 3/9 years with one of those years being by 0.5 a game. And like I said, they're giving Buffalo like the 5th or 6th lowest Super Bowl Odds right now. Barring a miraculous draft, it will definitely be in the 5.5-6.5 range as far as the O/U goes. Anything above that would go against the Super Bowl odds. 2017 they predicted 6 wins. And we had 9. So there goes your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 ‘What do you think the Bills record will be this season?’ * ’We Are Family’, by Sister Sledge? ’HandClap’, by Fitz and the Tantrums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) I will be shocked, delightfully shocked, but shocked none the less if we make it to double digit wins. 8-8 Edited March 22, 2019 by MikeSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8-8 Offense will surprise and actually finish around 15th. And give high hopes for the future. Defense will also surprise but in a bad way as it takes a step back. Also finishing around 15th. Last year injuries werent too bad for the Bills. Will take a lot of hoping to get that lucky again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: he would be the stupidest moron in the history of sports to even THINK that, let alone say it Glad to see you got a sense of humor. You are correct though Brady isnt the GOAT.? Edited March 22, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 10:02 AM, DCOrange said: It's probably still too early to really make a good estimate at this point. Barring something unforeseen though, I do not expect to make the playoffs; I'd guess around 6-8 wins as per usual. So, is Groundhog Day your favorite movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I think it's obviously way too early to call numbers... BUT: I believe this will be the first year that we see Brady* really start to decline, and the Pats* along with him. The Jets will experience serious growing pains with a new coaching staff. Miami is a train wreck. This year Buffalo will be dominant in the AFCE. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 ‘Danke Schoen’, by Wayne Newton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I see 8-8 or 9-7 as probable. If Josh REALLY grows leaps and bounds this off-season though, 10 wins or more is a distinct possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 9:10 AM, Bill from NYC said: The draft could push us into the playoffs if done in a sane way imo. I think that we both can agree that 6-8 wins would be quite depressing. In these days of FA and short rookie contracts, if a GM and coach can't get on the winning track in 3 years their plan seems to get called into question. The Bills have to post a winning season this year and look legit in the games they lose. I'm sure I get the "downer" tag for this post, but the fact is, of the Bills 10 losses last year, we lost by less than 2 TD only 5 times. Most of the rest were blowouts - 45, 32 (2x), 22, 19 points. It wasn't just a handful of mistakes, the defense looked sieve-like and the offense looked impotent. Regardless of record, that's the thing that I have to see change to believe we're turning it around. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In these days of FA and short rookie contracts, if a GM and coach can't get on the winning track in 3 years their plan seems to get called into question. The Bills have to post a winning season this year and look legit in the games they lose. I'm sure I get the "downer" tag for this post, but the fact is, of the Bills 10 losses last year, we lost by less than 2 TD only 5 times. Most of the rest were blowouts - 45, 32 (2x), 22, 19 points. It wasn't just a handful of mistakes, the defense looked sieve-like and the offense looked impotent. Regardless of record, that's the thing that I have to see change to believe we're turning it around. Nate Peterman Derrick Anderson Rookie blues. 3 blowouts sucked but it wasn’t the norm. Zay Jones the leading WR. Josh was the best of the run game too often. Im thinking his #s went down because of game planning and warnings by the coaches to be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Nate Peterman Derrick Anderson Rookie blues. 3 blowouts sucked but it wasn’t the norm. Zay Jones the leading WR. Josh was the best of the run game too often. Im thinking his #s went down because of game planning and warnings by the coaches to be careful. Well, I don't want to take up "horse beating", but please keep in mind that slotting Nate Peterman in as the starter at the beginning of the season, and allowing a QB roster of Peterson/Allen to carry into the season, was a GM and coaching decision. Same for the rest of the decisions - on OL for example, via the FA choices made or not made after Wood retired and Cog did whatever he did (yes, there were OLmen available) Surely then the FO bears responsibility for those results? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, I don't want to take up "horse beating", but please keep in mind that slotting Nate Peterman in as the starter at the beginning of the season, and allowing a QB roster of Peterson/Allen to carry into the season, was a GM and coaching decision. Same for the rest of the decisions - on OL for example, via the FA choices made or not made after Wood retired and Cog did whatever he did (yes, there were OLmen available) Surely then the FO bears responsibility for those results? That. We are giving them credit for pursuing a high volume of "modestly" regarded OL in UFA this offseason...........but they could have been a lot more aggressive in the same manner last year. It may not have yielded great results.......nor may it this time......we don't know....... but going into the season with the least money in the league dedicated to the OL when you are pretty certain to be breaking in a rookie QB was a fundmentally flawed decision. They really dodged a bullet with that OL last year...........after seeing Allen get his head dribbled off the turf on a hit in that Cinci preseason game it was pretty reasonable to wonder how a QB would survive under the pending duress..........but he proved a better scrambler than I think ANY of us could have imagined. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 If Allen is good, then 10 wins. If he's not, 7 wins. No pressure Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 18-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I'm guessing a few things go right & we go 10-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: They really dodged a bullet with that OL last year...........after seeing Allen get his head dribbled off the turf on a hit in that Cinci preseason game it was pretty reasonable to wonder how a QB would survive under the pending duress..........but he proved a better scrambler than I think ANY of us could have imagined. Other Bills teams neglected the OL when we had a QB who could run his way out of trouble (Flutie and Tyrod come to mind). I hope that McBeane does not repeat these stupid mistakes that cost us to lose countless football games. Josh Allen is extremely talented and he needs to be given better blocking and better weapons in this draft. I want to see the Bills play with a lead and then punish their opponents. It sure is about time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: 18-1 Brutal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 At this point, I see modest improvement so 7 wins sounds about right. If they don't get a stud of a DT to replace Kyle, I could see the defense falling out of the top 10. I think they were a bit overrated anyways and I think the Jets are a better team right now. I'm not assuming that there will be significant progress by Allen or Edmunds until I see it on the field. The one area where I do expect improvement is in the run game. I think Gore will be a bigger contributor than many people realize, even at age 35. We still have not addressed our run defense or pass rush which could hold us back. Having a QB that throws more picks than TD's will be problematic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Brutal! No let me lay it out. We lose week one...very badly. Board erupts. Fights ensue. Heads are called for by fans Here We proceed to run the table. Boom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: No let me lay it out. We lose week one...very badly. Board erupts. Fights ensue. Heads are called for by fans Here We proceed to run the table. Boom I just assumed it meant we lost the Super Bowl. Your take is just as Billsy, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, GreggTX said: At this point, I see modest improvement so 7 wins sounds about right. If they don't get a stud of a DT to replace Kyle, I could see the defense falling out of the top 10. I think they were a bit overrated anyways and I think the Jets are a better team right now. I'm not assuming that there will be significant progress by Allen or Edmunds until I see it on the field. The one area where I do expect improvement is in the run game. I think Gore will be a bigger contributor than many people realize, even at age 35. We still have not addressed our run defense or pass rush which could hold us back. Having a QB that throws more picks than TD's will be problematic as well. Your comments are refreshingly grounded in reality. They stand out like a stinging light in the darkness on this board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I think this will be a surprising year for the NFL in general. The old guard’s time is really winding down. Chiefs, Jets, Bills and Colts are all set up well for the years ahead. I think both the Bills and Jets wind up at 11-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Your comments are refreshingly grounded in reality. They stand out like a stinging light in the darkness on this board! Thank you. I mean, seriously... We have a thread for Allen is not inaccurate or I'm gonna take my ball and go home. Another predicts that he'll be the MVP in 2019. PFF, meanwhile, exposes him as the least accurate starting QB in the NFL. At least they stopped short of exposing him as the reason KB wanted out of Buffalo. I'd also like to see a couple things from Edmunds that I haven't seen yet -- 1. A mean streak. I mean, he's a 255 lb MLB and he hits like a cheerleader. 2. Much better instinct and ability to diagnose plays more quickly. OK, let's make it 3; An ability to shed blocks much more quickly. Allen can be a good QB, but he'll never be elite. I fear the same may be true of Edmunds, but he has a better chance. Edmunds has the physical tools. Allen has an inaccurate arm and that's something I've never seen fixed. Our OL is improved from disasterous to average. Our WR corps has improved from disinterested to almost average. 7 wins seems quite reasonable at this point. Edited March 24, 2019 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Thank you. I mean, seriously... We have a thread for Allen is not inaccurate or I'm gonna take my ball and go home. Another predicts that he'll be the MVP in 2019. PFF, meanwhile, exposes him as the least accurate starting QB in the NFL. At least they stopped short of exposing him as the reason KB wanted out of Buffalo. I'd also like to see a couple things from Edmunds that I haven't seen yet -- 1. A mean streak. I mean, he's a 255 lb MLB and he hits like a cheerleader. 2. Much better instinct and ability to diagnose plays more quickly. Allen can be a good QB, but he'll never be elite. I fear the same may be true of Edmunds, but he has a better chance. Our OL is improved from disasterous to average. Our WR corps has improved from disinterested to almost average. 7 wins seems quite reasonable at this point. PFF exposed him? Never be elite? You drew that conclusion after 11 games? KB wanted out of Buffalo? Weird, I've not seen or heard such a claim. In fact, I don't believe he ever said that, Nor was it his choice to be here or not. You are making an awful lot of assumptions here....PFF stopped short of making that claim because, well, its just not true. He was not in high demand upon his release, and is all but washed up at this point. I will say tho that I agree with your assessment of the O-line. Upgrading to average is still quite an improvement Edited March 24, 2019 by BuffAlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) On 3/22/2019 at 10:30 AM, rodneykm said: I'm feeling 10 and 6 with a very close playoff game...I'll be optimistic...I think we win one game in the playoffs. I was pretty much going to say the same thing....the optimist in me says 10-6. Edited March 24, 2019 by Magnum Force 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) On 3/23/2019 at 10:01 AM, Rocky Landing said: Brutal! Not if that 1 loss is week 1 10-6 Edited March 24, 2019 by Buffalophil1948 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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