Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 All were starters last season. The FO must be regular visitors here!.. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/16/18268872/2019-nfl-free-agency-buffalo-bills-sign-ot-laadrian-waddle-to-one-year-deal-news-transactions 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 All had some starts. All were not starters. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Pretty interesting from that article how we've basically obtained an entire offensive line in free agency with two tackles, two guards, and a center. If nothing else, we have plenty of good depth. I hope that we draft a guard and tackle relatively high this year, that would give us very solid depth all across the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3410 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, SWATeam said: All had some starts. All were not starters. Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: All were starters last season. The FO must be regular visitors here!.. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/16/18268872/2019-nfl-free-agency-buffalo-bills-sign-ot-laadrian-waddle-to-one-year-deal-news-transactions Your title was misleading. You forgot RB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 OG. You forgot Spencer Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 No love for Gore? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 The line was trash. Dawkins and Tellar will be the only ones on the roster next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 with injuries the way they are you can never have enough linemen, I say add some more in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, Mat68 said: The line was trash. Dawkins and Tellar will be the only ones on the roster next year. Maybe Bodine. But all others on the OLine from last year must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: with injuries the way they are you can never have enough linemen, I say add some more in the draft You can't really keep more than 8 on the active roster, so they need to stop soon or they're just throwing money away 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Its amazing. Beane had said that addressing the o-line was a must as to not force their hands in the draft. It was an obvious need.He has followed thru. A Man of his word. Loving this FO more and more. Clear plan. No BS. Follow plan. Build for sustained success. Pardon the pun, but its almost too much to "process" as a lifelong fan! 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mark80 said: No love for Gore? Oops. Fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, wppete said: 3 OG. You forgot Spencer Long. I didn’t forget him. Waddle is the fifth free agent offensive lineman to be added to the Bills roster this offseason, joining Jon Feliciano, Spencer Long, Mitch Morse and Nsekhe. -BB.COM 40 minutes ago, SWATeam said: All had some starts. All were not starters. Tomato/Tomahto. All were starters last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 If 75 percent of the signings are contributors is a great FA I need to see the baby before I get happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: All were starters last season. The FO must be regular visitors here!.. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/16/18268872/2019-nfl-free-agency-buffalo-bills-sign-ot-laadrian-waddle-to-one-year-deal-news-transactions I just happened to mention that we needed another tackle just 4 hours ago and immediately the went out and got one. I wonder if I should get some kind of fee for putting them in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Miller, Mills and Groy are already gone. I don't imagine Sirles or McDermott will be here this summer. Bodine, Dawkins and Teller are the likely holdovers. Bodine will back up Morse. Teller will compete with Feliciano and Long to start, and now Waddle will back up Dawkins and Nsekhi. I expect Buffalo will probably draft a couple offensive linemen, but they will probably be day three picks that the team can stash away on PS or IR to develop down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, richardb1952 said: I just happened to mention that we needed another tackle just 4 hours ago and immediately the went out and got one. I wonder if I should get some kind of fee for putting them in the right direction. ?Get in line, fella. We all have skin in this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Miller, Mills and Groy are already gone. I don't imagine Sirles or McDermott will be here this summer. Bodine, Dawkins and Teller are the likely holdovers. Bodine will back up Morse. Teller will compete with Feliciano and Long to start, and now Waddle will back up Dawkins and Nsekhi. I expect Buffalo will probably draft a couple offensive linemen, but they will probably be day three picks that the team can stash away on PS or IR to develop down the road. Can we still stash Teller on the PS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Now finish it off and draft a quality OT and an athletic quality OG in the first 3 rounds. It will give the Bills cost control thru the first contract with Josh and likely make the O line the strength of the team. (I like how Indy approached it w/ a 1st round center in 2016 and 1st round guard in 2018. They improved exponentially by doing so). They clearly will have MUCH better depth behind it too. A lot of the FA OL's were "compete for it" type signings. Maybe they could beat out the high end draftees too but you know the depth will be much much better. Frankly with a really good O line, it will be pick your poison with the Bills. Do you cheat safeties up to stop the run and get explosive plays behind you with the speed WR's or stay back and let Shady, Josh and Gore run consistently against light boxes? It might be a lot of fun watching this O if they can get the O Line to an elite level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bison Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Can we still stash Teller on the PS? A player is allowed on the practice squad for up to two years, with one year counting as six weeks in a season. A third year on the practice squad is only allowed if the team keeps 53 players on their active roster at all times (which every team does). https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2018/9/1/17808772/nfl-practice-squad-2018-eligibility-pay-rules-changing-teams-what-to-know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Best part is almost every signing is on a short term, team friendly deal with easy outs for the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Tomato/Tomahto. All were starters last year. Nathan Peterman was a starter, too 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Beane just about built an entire offensive unit except QB out of free agents. And that unit might even be better than the offense we fielded last year. My only fear is that we may have a whole lot of average or below average players. There's no spots I would call a true "hole", but the games will come down to how many individual match ups we win. I'd feel better with a couple more studs. Maybe they'll come out of the draft. I'm not criticizing Beane, you can only sign guys who are out there, you can't call up Dominos and have pro bowl players delivered. Hopefully some of these guys step up and improve their game with the chance they have been given. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I just commented on a "our WRs still suck" thread, noting that I think we've improved from one of the worst WR corps in the NFL to roughly average. I guess I could just cut-and-paste that here, changing WR to OL. That's where I think we are now. Nsekhe for Mills - upgrade from poor to average Morse for Bodine/Groy - upgrade from poor to above average/very good (but not elite) Various new Guards for various old Guards - I'm not seeing the upgrade, but hey, competition often results in somebody stepping up, so it's not a stretch to say we're going (again) from poor overall to average, particularly if Teller improves. The new rallying cry: we're average! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ocemur said: Beane just about built an entire offensive unit except QB out of free agents. And that unit might even be better than the offense we fielded last year. My only fear is that we may have a whole lot of average or below average players. There's no spots I would call a true "hole", but the games will come down to how many individual match ups we win. I'd feel better with a couple more studs. Maybe they'll come out of the draft. I'm not criticizing Beane, you can only sign guys who are out there, you can't call up Dominos and have pro bowl players delivered. Hopefully some of these guys step up and improve their game with the chance they have been given. I get the concern on that...... I honestly am not worried about these receivers.....because what is really going to make the difference is how good these OFFENSIVE LINEMEN are.....lets keep in mind that most ppl are basing their opinion on last years offensive group......which was just horrible.....so the fear is if they are not all name players that even if they improve they wont be good enough...... This team has the SIXTH BEST OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE just a few short years ago with a defense that collapsed....now last year the D was good and the offense was horrible......if they can pick up their play just to average this is probably at worst a 9 win team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Mat68 said: The line was trash. Dawkins and Tellar will be the only ones on the roster next year. I dont even know about Tellar- he just doesnt move well and cant pull which Dabol wants his guards to do in his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Agent 91 said: If 75 percent of the signings are contributors is a great FA I need to see the baby before I get happy 14 hours ago, Agent 91 said: If 75 percent of the signings are contributors is a great FA I need to see the baby before I get happy true....but i believe this staff will bring out starting caliber play and get these guys to play well above their past. don;t forget our oline coach has already worked with a couple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Training camp will be all about the O-Line this year, and also the same idea to some extent at WR. Competition pushes everyone higher and brings out the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 YOU CAN'T FIX AN OFFENSE IN ONE OFFSEASON!!! Or maybe you can if you've prepared for the opportunity by clearing bad salaries, eating dead cap, maneuvering to get your QB, and riding out one difficult season knowing what was to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: Training camp will be all about the O-Line this year, and also the same idea to some extent at WR. Competition pushes everyone higher and brings out the best. Not sure where the Bodine at guard idea comes from, he didn't play there at UNC or with the Bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) I feel like we’re really just missing one “stud”. Solid OL with a lot of depth and potential. Solid RB’s in Shady/Gore. Solid WR’s with Foster/Brown/Cole/Zay Tight Ends are the weak spot with Kroft/Croom, but if we add say, Hockenson or Fant, they could be that stud of their positional unit and immediately bring the TE position up to par with the rest of the team. Now, if Josh Allen is a stud, then that brings everyone up a level. I believe he is, and want him given every opportunity to succeed - a stud TE would be huge. Im going DT at 9, but using pick 40 in a package to make sure we grab a top TE in this Draft. Edited March 17, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, JM57 said: Not sure where the Bodine at guard idea comes from, he didn't play there at UNC or with the Bengals He has primarily played C, but he did play some at G in college. There was some discussion in Cinci early in his career that he might play some at G. Here is one link for example- https://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/6/12/5803794/mike-pollak-russell-bodine-guard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: He has primarily played C, but he did play some at G in college. There was some discussion in Cinci early in his career that he might play some at G. Here is one link for example- https://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/6/12/5803794/mike-pollak-russell-bodine-guard Everything I've seen says "some snaps at guard" which isn't really anything. Kind of silly to ask a below average center to just start playing guard 5+ years into his NFL career because he's taken some snaps at the position here and there. Still gonna be below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JM57 said: Everything I've seen says "some snaps at guard" which isn't really anything. Kind of silly to ask a below average center to just start playing guard 5+ years into his NFL career because he's taken some snaps at the position here and there. Still gonna be below average. Honestly... I agree with you... I don't really expect much from Bodine, he is fighting for a roster spot IMO. Edited March 17, 2019 by One Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) My read is whatever superstar is there at 9, that’s where they are going. Could be any position aside from QB 17 hours ago, BubbaT said: Now finish it off and draft a quality OT and an athletic quality OG in the first 3 rounds. It will give the Bills cost control thru the first contract with Josh and likely make the O line the strength of the team. (I like how Indy approached it w/ a 1st round center in 2016 and 1st round guard in 2018. They improved exponentially by doing so). They clearly will have MUCH better depth behind it too. A lot of the FA OL's were "compete for it" type signings. Maybe they could beat out the high end draftees too but you know the depth will be much much better. Frankly with a really good O line, it will be pick your poison with the Bills. Do you cheat safeties up to stop the run and get explosive plays behind you with the speed WR's or stay back and let Shady, Josh and Gore run consistently against light boxes? It might be a lot of fun watching this O if they can get the O Line to an elite level. Edited March 17, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: My read is whatever superstar is there at 9, that’s where they are going. Could be any position aside from QB 17 hours ago, BubbaT said: Now finish it off and draft a quality OT and an athletic quality OG in the first 3 rounds. It will give the Bills cost control thru the first contract with Josh and likely make the O line the strength of the team. (I like how Indy approached it w/ a 1st round center in 2016 and 1st round guard in 2018. They improved exponentially by doing so). They clearly will have MUCH better depth behind it too. A lot of the FA OL's were "compete for it" type signings. Maybe they could beat out the high end draftees too but you know the depth will be much much better. Frankly with a really good O line, it will be pick your poison with the Bills. Do you cheat safeties up to stop the run and get explosive plays behind you with the speed WR's or stay back and let Shady, Josh and Gore run consistently against light boxes? It might be a lot of fun watching this O if they can get the O Line to an elite level. Yes, that leaves rounds 2 and 3 for my OL's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: My read is whatever superstar is there at 9, that’s where they are going. Could be any position aside from QB I agree. I don’t expect a trade down partner to materialize -which frankly hurts, but if one does I believe they’ll jump! Otherwise, yes, immediate starter somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: I agree. I don’t expect a trade down partner to materialize -which frankly hurts, but if one does I believe they’ll jump! Otherwise, yes, immediate starter somewhere. Yep. Can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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