Reed83HOF Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) He's a top 5 off ball backer in the NFL isn't he? Definitely unexpected that he would hit the open market. Are they in trouble financially? Edited March 4, 2019 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Really interesting to see him being unrestricted but I don’t at all expect Buffalo to pursue him. Could their rival Steelers entice him to fill one of their biggest needs though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I am surprised by this....wonder if an extension is already in the works so no need for the tag. Would love to see the Bills grab him but I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Doubt he fits McD's defensive scheme. The Ravens are a base 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He's a top 5 off ball backer in the NFL isn't he? Definitely unexpected that he would hit the open market. Are they in trouble financially? They have 50 mill...they'll make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He's a top 5 off ball backer in the NFL isn't he? Definitely unexpected that he would hit the open market. Are they in trouble financially? Not really, but I think it boils down to who they want to keep. Do you keep your trench guys, Michael Pierce, Za'Darius Smith, Suggs or do you keep the off the ball linebacker who will be asking for a contract to cover all of what those guys will be getting? They drafted Kenny Young last year and Peanut Onswar proved he can play in the league. If anything I'd probably let him walk too and if I need to draft a rookie backer in rd 2-4 after adding a WR in rd 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 You can't really tag an ILB. They get lumped together with the expensive OLB pass rushers when it comes to calculating the tag amount. They would wind up paying him like over $15M a year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: He's a top 5 off ball backer in the NFL isn't he? Definitely unexpected that he would hit the open market. Are they in trouble financially? I don’t think he is top 5. If it was still old school football he probably would be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I feel like there’s a lot of quality talent out there, but all at positions we’ve recently filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 They only have $18.5 mil in cap space and tagging him would have used over $15 mil of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I don't see them letting Mosley walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Overrated, not worth breaking the bank over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rico said: Overrated, not worth breaking the bank over. He’s only the second best ILB in the league. And he’s relatively young . A perfect fit for our defense by moving Edmunds outside. Edited March 5, 2019 by Spielman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Spielman said: He’s only the second best ILB in the league. And he’s relatively young . A perfect fit for our defense by moving Edmunds outside. If that was the case, there’s no way the Ravens would let him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I bet he lands with the Jets. They have a ton of cash to throw around and that's what they're gonna do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Rico said: If that was the case, there’s no way the Ravens would let him leave. Yeah there is reason, because he will likely want $50-55MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: I bet he lands with the Jets. They have a ton of cash to throw around and that's what they're gonna do. Don't we as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Rico said: Overrated, not worth breaking the bank over. I think he is very good, but he is a thumper middle linebacker and the value of those guys in the modern day NFL is low. If you are close to the cap with veteran team it isn't a position that you spend the $$s in. I think it speaks to the positional value rather than his ability. If you want to get paid as a modern MLB in the NFL you better be a sideline to sideline guy. Mosely is very good at what he does but what he does is not something you pay big bucks for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 14 hours ago, CommonCents said: I don’t think he is top 5. If it was still old school football he probably would be though. Why do you think this? Imo he is good against the run and great in coverage. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd love to see us take a run at this guy. Move Edmunds to the outside and have him man the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Would you pay great money for a good LB? That's really what you're thinking about with Mosley. He's a great run stopping LB and decent in coverage, but as the league evolves towards those quick, precise passes, FOs will probably put more emphasis on great coverage LBs and decent run stoppers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: I bet he lands with the Jets. They have a ton of cash to throw around and that's what they're gonna do. They Definately need to upgrade their LB's. They are abysmal there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Why do you think this? Imo he is good against the run and great in coverage. How about you? for me it is the other way around. I think he is a great run defender who is decent in coverage. But he is a north to south linebacker primarily and the guys making big $$s at the position these days are better going east to west than he is. I am not saying he is one dimensional, he isn't Brandon Spikes for example..... but the thing he excels at is the thing that is less valued in the modern NFL. Go back 15 or 20 years and no team lets a CJ Mosely walk. This day in age it will happen from time to time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: for me it is the other way around. I think he is a great run defender who is decent in coverage. But he is a north to south linebacker primarily and the guys making big $$s at the position these days are better going east to west than he is. I am not saying he is one dimensional, he isn't Brandon Spikes for example..... but the thing he excels at is the thing that is less valued in the modern NFL. Go back 15 or 20 years and no team lets a CJ Mosely walk. This day in age it will happen from time to time. Especially at the price it'll cost to tag him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Spielman said: Yeah there is reason, because he will likely want $50-55MM He’s not worth that kind of jack. Here in Baltimore, there aren’t too many Ravens fans that will be crying long and hard if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Virgil said: I feel like there’s a lot of quality talent out there, but all at positions we’ve recently filled. So you are saying we shouldn’t go after Foles? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: Especially at the price it'll cost to tag him... Yep. I think you pay that kind of money for an impact player, not a complementary player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Great tackler, but too slow to give a huge payday. Replace with one of the Devins in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Great tackler, but too slow to give a huge payday. Replace with one of the Devins in the draft. I don’t know if it was his responsibility on the play, but I really loved him watching him chase far behind Tyler Boyd all the way into the end zone the last week of the 2017 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rico said: I don’t know if it was his responsibility on the play, but I really loved him watching him chase far behind Tyler Boyd all the way into the end zone the last week of the 2017 season. Rahsaan Evans was similar in the draft last year. Bills could have stayed at 22 and took him but didn’t want any questions about whether their MLB could go sideline to sideline. Edmunds is the modern LB, those guys are good players but not impact players. It’s easier to teach a gifted player like Edmunds to tackle better vs the run than it is to teach those guys how to cover when they don’t have the innate ability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Great tackler, but too slow to give a huge payday. Replace with one of the Devins in the draft. No love for Khalil Hodge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: No love for Khalil Hodge? I thought the Ravens might draft one higher. I actually have the Bills taking Hodge in my mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Spielman said: He’s only the second best ILB in the league. And he’s relatively young . A perfect fit for our defense by moving Edmunds outside. Agreed. As well as TE played inside (at times), I believe he is miscast as a MLB and would be FAR more effective outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: for me it is the other way around. I think he is a great run defender who is decent in coverage. But he is a north to south linebacker primarily and the guys making big $$s at the position these days are better going east to west than he is. I am not saying he is one dimensional, he isn't Brandon Spikes for example..... but the thing he excels at is the thing that is less valued in the modern NFL. Go back 15 or 20 years and no team lets a CJ Mosely walk. This day in age it will happen from time to time. Yeah.....I view Hightower as a real north/south ILB, much more that Mosely. In college, Hightower was leaner and could actually cover as well. Mosely was an all around player at Bama and was excellent in coverage. You are certainly correct in that there are a lot less spots for a purely physical LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, H2o said: I bet he lands with the Jets. They have a ton of cash to throw around and that's what they're gonna do. Don’t they have a bunch of their own to sign first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Yeah.....I view Hightower as a real north/south ILB, much more that Mosely. In college, Hightower was leaner and could actually cover as well. Mosely was an all around player at Bama and was excellent in coverage. You are certainly correct in that there are a lot less spots for a purely physical LB. The difference in Mosely's coverage capability in the NFL as compared to college comes down to speed I think. His technique is reasonably sound. He just doesn't have the speed to hang with some of the guys he is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 There are no real weaknesses in his game. Yes, he's a better run stopper than cover guy, but he's still good in coverage. He was a wrecking ball at Bama and did the same with Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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