YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Monster speed guy, top 10 pick, has dealt with injuries and other things (he was inactive when healthy his first year) ... wonder what they want. i could see Beane testing the market here as he pulled the trigger on Corey Coleman last year though it was a fail. Edited February 26, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yes it’s worth a trade. Give them a 4th round pick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I watched him play a bunch of times he seems like one of those players that doesn't play as fast as his time is. He doesn't have player speed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) My lasting memory of him is breaking our entire secondary’s ankles on the Bengals first play of the game in preseason last year for a TD. Vontae Davis actually retired after that play, not week 2 at halftime. I havent seen him do much else but I try not to watch the Bengals Edited February 26, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I will say, when’s he not hurt, he finds a way to score. Shocking pick though he was a good player in college. Personally, I think it would be stupid for the Bengals to trade him now since his value is so low. But if it was for a 3rd or later, I’d be really interesting (depending on his physical). I love former 1st round picks who struggle on their first team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Hmm. That's gotta be intriguing for McBeane at the very least. Pairing a speed guy who can take the top off a defense with a rocket-armed QB has to be interesting. I'm sure a lot would depend on his medical stuff and I'm not sure if he has any off-field concerns that would make him a "non-process" guy or whatever. Kid might just need a fresh start. Plus, McBeane already has trade history with the Bengals having dealt Glenn there last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Could be an interesting match with Allen... fits the mold of adding speedsters to stretch the field. Edited February 26, 2019 by One Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Did you guys know that the Bengals picked him instead of Mahomes? 1 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Did you guys know that the Bengals picked him instead of Mahomes? Ouch... Edited February 26, 2019 by One Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Did you guys know that the Bengals picked him instead of Mahomes? I’m not saying Andy Dalton is great. But he is a qb that has been to playoffs multiple times so it makes a lot more sense why they would have passed on Mahomes. Still, I didn’t get the Ross pick for them. It didn’t seem like a huge need. 8 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: I watched him play a bunch of times he seems like one of those players that doesn't play as fast as his time is. He doesn't have player speed. It’s weird because he did have that combine time but he’s become a weird red zone threat. He had 7 tds on 21 catches and 210 yards. That’s like TE numbers, not small fast guy stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'd give them a 5th 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, rodneykm said: I'd give them a 5th I mean, the Bengals would be idiots to do that but why not. I don’t get why teams look to move sunken costs for crappy draft picks. Teams overrate lower draft picks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’m not saying Andy Dalton is great. But he is a qb that has been to playoffs multiple times so it makes a lot more sense why they would have passed on Mahomes. Still, I didn’t get the Ross pick for them. It didn’t seem like a huge need. . The Chiefs traded up to pick him and they had Alex Smith who had just taken them to the playoffs the year before..I guess that’s why the Bengals are the Bengals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: The Chiefs traded up to pick him and they had Alex Smith who had just taken them to the playoffs the year before..I guess that’s why the Bengals are the Bengals.. But that’s why the KC move was so risky and genius. Most teams don’t do that. And obviously, they won the lottery with Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Vontae Davis actually retired after during that play, not week 2 at halftime. FIFY. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: But that’s why the KC move was so risky and genius. Most teams don’t do that. And obviously, they won the lottery with Mahomes. It was a great move in hindsight no doubt.. Not sure I consider it winning the lottery... they identified him, had a plan to get him and executed it to perfection.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: It was a great move in hindsight no doubt.. Not sure I consider it winning the lottery... they identified him, had a plan to get him and executed it to perfection.. That’s fair. But to pick a MVP when you have a solid, playoff type qb takes some big ones. And as much crap as Dalton gets, he might be the 2nd best qb in Bills history. Edited February 26, 2019 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 He has been terrible, he probably goes for a 5th-6th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I will say, when’s he not hurt, he finds a way to score. Shocking pick though he was a good player in college. Personally, I think it would be stupid for the Bengals to trade him now since his value is so low. But if it was for a 3rd or later, I’d be really interesting (depending on his physical). I love former 1st round picks who struggle on their first team. Honestly, how many have we had now? I really have trouble keeping track. Matthews Benjamin Coleman Is there another one that I am just not remembering? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Caveat emptor. Ask yourselves why the Bungles would be willing to move on from/give up on a young WR this soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
******* Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Any interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 I think the Pats will probably lob them one of their hundred comp picks for him. They have hogan and Dorsett entering FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You have to wonder why Cincinnati is giving up on him so early in his career..58 targets/21 catches, Is he another KB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But that’s why the KC move was so risky and genius. Most teams don’t do that. And obviously, they won the lottery with Mahomes. I dont see any genius in the move, Alex Smith was doing nothing but giving KC bad draft picks. He is an average QB and KC knew this as did many football fans. Bengals are just not smart enough to see Dalton is average. Edited February 26, 2019 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s fair. But to pick a MVP when you have a solid, playoff type qb takes some big ones. And as much crap as Dalton gets, he might be the 2nd best qb in Bills history. I don't know....Greg Cook, Ken Anderson, and Boomer were pretty good. Edited February 26, 2019 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, ******* said: Any interest? Any link? 12 minutes ago, ******* said: Any interest? 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Any link? Oh, wait ... I found one ... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I don't know....Greg Cook, Ken Anderson, and Boomer were pretty good. I was saying Dalton would be the 2nd best qb in Bills history (I only go back to the 90s in fairness). I guess Jack Kemp was pretty good from what I heard, though blindly looking at his stats shows Dalton was far superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Look at his 2018 stats. Very odd? He had 210 yards and 7 TDs on 58 targets. But what's weird is his longest catch was 39 yards. If he's a fly route guy, what was he doing last year? All curl routes? I'd take him @ 24 years old for a 4th rounder, if he passes medical. Don't want another injury prone "Flash" type. Edited February 26, 2019 by LABILLBACKER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I was saying Dalton would be the 2nd best qb in Bills history (I only go back to the 90s in fairness). I guess Jack Kemp was pretty good from what I heard, though blindly looking at his stats shows Dalton was far superior. Yes....sorry I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yikes, what a bad draft year for WRs at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Honestly, how many have we had now? I really have trouble keeping track. Matthews Benjamin Coleman Is there another one that I am just not remembering? Jerry Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Murica Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 21 receptions and 7 touchdowns.. sheesh, vulture much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Jerry Hughes. Absolutely true. Thank you. However, my bad as I should have stated further that I was wondering whether there was another receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'd give them a 5th. There's no way a guy with 4.22 speed can't somehow find a role in a Josh Allen led offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Will gave them a third if they throw in AJ Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: My lasting memory of him is breaking our entire secondary’s ankles on the Bengals first play of the game in preseason last year for a TD. Vontae Davis actually retired after that play, not week 2 at halftime. I havent seen him do much else but I try not to watch the Bengals Hahaha...I remembee that as well amd the announcers were all impressed and said that's what John Ross cand do and why the Bengals drafted him...too bad he only did it in pre season...dude has been a super bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yes. Get Allen a deep threat. That's what he is good at. More speed more weapons the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 The dude has 21 catches on 60 targets in his NFL career. There's no way the bengals get higher than a late 4th. Another cautionary tale about why game film matters a lot more than Combine numbers. I'd be ok with trading a low pick for him, but his skillset is awfully similar to Foster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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