Dkollidas Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just going off what we’ve seen with this management and coaching staff put together in terms of the “character” players, etc. just wondering if anyone has noticed guys that seem to be “McBeane” character guys. Last year I saw Harrison Phillips as such an obvious one for us. And sure enough it ended up happening ( I thought Phillips was going to go round 2, but they did well and got him in the 3rd). my guys so far this year... OL- Dalton Risner- Kansas St. - Was at the senior bowl. Check. Played tackle guard and center, so versatile. Check. Buddies with Harrison Phillips and spoke about how he’d be happy if he was selected by the Bills (I don’t have a link but read the quote somewhere when they interviewed him at the senior bowl). Check. Blue collar type of guy with no off-field red flags... check check check. I see Buffalo looking for Risner in the 2nd Round, moving up if they feel necessary. DT- Christian Wilkins- Clemson - Also a Senior. Check. Said to have a non-stop motor. Check. Leadership? Unquestioned. Check. John Ledyard from The Draft Network on Wilkins: ”Toughness, leadership and effort can’t be questioned. Hard-working on and off the field and described as a rare personality and leader at the college level” If Buffalo has to stay at 9, I could see him being an option. I could also see him being an option if they manage to get two offensive linemen and sign a Tyrell Williams or Golden Tate. Or if they move down and manage to have two 1st Round Picks (Via Raiders). Anyone else have anyone they’d like to add? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: Just going off what we’ve seen with this management and coaching staff put together in terms of the “character” players, etc. just wondering if anyone has noticed guys that seem to be “McBeane” character guys. Last year I saw Harrison Phillips as such an obvious one for us. And sure enough it ended up happening ( I thought Phillips was going to go round 2, but they did well and got him in the 3rd). my guys so far this year... OL- Dalton Risner- Kansas St. - Was at the senior bowl. Check. Played tackle guard and center, so versatile. Check. Buddies with Harrison Phillips and spoke about how he’d be happy if he was selected by the Bills (I don’t have a link but read the quote somewhere when they interviewed him at the senior bowl). Check. Blue collar type of guy with no off-field red flags... check check check. I see Buffalo looking for Risner in the 2nd Round, moving up if they feel necessary. DT- Christian Wilkins- Clemson - Also a Senior. Check. Said to have a non-stop motor. Check. Leadership? Unquestioned. Check. John Ledyard from The Draft Network on Wilkins: ”Toughness, leadership and effort can’t be questioned. Hard-working on and off the field and described as a rare personality and leader at the college level” If Buffalo has to stay at 9, I could see him being an option. I could also see him being an option if they manage to get two offensive linemen and sign a Tyrell Williams or Golden Tate. Or if they move down and manage to have two 1st Round Picks (Via Raiders). Anyone else have anyone they’d like to add? I don't know the college players, so I can't add any names. However, I think that what you've said demonstrates EXACTLY how McBeane will approach the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 My picks as guys I think are right up McBeanes alley are: OT - Dalton Risner: Guy seems made to play in Buffalo. EDGE - Oshane Ximines: This is the kind of guy on the field and in the locker room I think McD covets. Fiery leader and could be one of the steals of the draft in the 2nd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Risner just oozes what this Oline needs. Tough to grab him at 9....bit of a reach....but trade back and grab Risner? Genius. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Oshane Ximines: This is the kind of guy on the field and in the locker room I think McD covets. Fiery leader and could be one of the steals of the draft in the 2nd round. Reminds me of Jerry Hughes. 1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Risner just oozes what this Oline needs. Tough to grab him at 9....bit of a reach....but trade back and grab Risner? Genius. I like him too. I worry about trading back and missing out on him. Same worry I have about trading back for TJ Hockenstein. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Garrett Bradbury OC NC State Chris Lindstrom OG Boston College T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa Terrill Hanks is the perfect undersized former safety who became a LB. Much like Milano and Dorian O'Daniel who the Bills brought in for a pre draft visit last year. Dalton Risner OT Kansas State 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) I would add Chris Lindstrom, T.J. Hockenson, and Garrett Bradbury to your list, based on character traits. Another interesting trend to follow is Daboll’s Alabama connection, especially since we are expecting there to be a focus on offense. This may mean Jonah Williams, Ross Piersbacher, Josh Jacobs. I agree that Risner is a reach at 9. I also fear he maybe gone by the time the Bills second pick comes round. Both he and Hockenson are late 1st early second candidates. Like Hernandez last year, they won’t last far into the 2nd. If they miss Risner, McGovern, Beaushwazel and Powers are possibilities later. Edited February 20, 2019 by Seoul_panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I expect us to move around a lot this year. I mean....A LOT. I could be wrong (I usually am ?), but we’ve got some wheeler dealers running the show, and it just feels like this year is built for going after “their guys”. I’m fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Deebo Samuel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Augie said: I expect us to move around a lot this year. I mean....A LOT. I could be wrong (I usually am ?), but we’ve got some wheeler dealers running the show, and it just feels like this year is built for going after “their guys”. I’m fine with that. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I’m also wondering if they will go after some new special team guys with some of their late round picks. Let’s hope they can replicate what they achieved last year with their later selections and UDFAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Clelin Ferrell is also processy-- vocal leader, high motor, competitive, sets the edge well. Not the speed rusher I personally look for but he's smart, has good length and uses it well, good technique and a lot of different moves. May be in play at 9 Edited February 20, 2019 by 2018 Our Year For Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Problem is it's hard to tell who are the serious leaders, the guys who love the game and are smart on the field until you either actually coach them or get a pipeline to coaches at their school. So at the Senior Bowl we see a number of those guys, and it's obvious who they are, to us and to McBeane, and that's why they seem to go with those guys. As for us fans, it's really hard to tell because that's the image they're all trying to convey right now. Remember Dareus telling our coaches that if we didn't draft him he'd come in here and beat our butts again and again. Sounded great, but it's just what he'd been coached to say. It wasn't especially who he was. Some guys are really widely acclaimed as leaders and guys who love the game, and those guys even the fans know. For most, we don't know yet and what we do know later is about half P.R. I'm expecting Senior Bowl guys again. Other than that I'm hoping their pipeline to the colleges works. So far, it seems to be really good, from their draft results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I have a feeling if Devin White is on the board at 9 he's our guy, move Edmunds outside where he's a natural fit. He just seems like the perfect fit imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I have a feeling if Devin White is on the board at 9 he's our guy, move Edmunds outside where he's a natural fit. He just seems like the perfect fit imo. Unfortunately he won’t be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Ugh...”process guys”. How bout just hope they draft guys that can play well. The word “process” should be added to the ***** swear filter at this point. It’s just buzzword BS and the number of you here and elsewhere that believe there’s some kind of deeper meaning behind it worries me, frankly. Edited February 20, 2019 by JoPar_v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I have a feeling if Devin White is on the board at 9 he's our guy, move Edmunds outside where he's a natural fit. He just seems like the perfect fit imo. Pretty classy video ... I'm an instant fan and nothing wrong with two LSU players with same last name on our defense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 The following players seem extra process-ey David Montgomery-RB Iowa State Jonathan Williams-RB Washington State Deebo Samuel-WR South Carolina Parris Campbell-WR Ohio State Terry McLaurin-WR Ohio State TJ Hockenson-TE Iowa Kaden Smith-TE Iowa Dalton Risner-T/G Kansas State Max Scharping-T/G Northern Illini Michael Dieter-G/C Wisconsin Connor McGovern-C/G Penn State Chris Lindstrom-G Boston College Garrett Bradbury-C North Carolina State Jaylon Ferguson-DE Louisana Tech Anthony Nelson-DE Iowa Charles Omenihu-DE Texas Christian Wilkins-DL Clemson Daylon Mack-DL Texas A&M Daniel Wise-DL Kansas Rock Ya Sin-CB Temple Amani Oruwariye-CB Penn State Blace Brown-CB Troy Corey Ballantine-CB Washburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Christian Wilkins, also has a great personality. He's one of them happy go lucky types. He's similar to Tre White in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I have a feeling if Devin White is on the board at 9 he's our guy, move Edmunds outside where he's a natural fit. He just seems like the perfect fit imo. No let Devin White play Thomas Davis' role as a natural outside stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: The following players seem extra process-ey David Montgomery-RB Iowa State Jonathan Williams-RB Washington State Deebo Samuel-WR South Carolina Parris Campbell-WR Ohio State Terry McLaurin-WR Ohio State TJ Hockenson-TE Iowa Kaden Smith-TE Iowa Dalton Risner-T/G Kansas State Max Scharping-T/G Northern Illini Michael Dieter-G/C Wisconsin Connor McGovern-C/G Penn State Chris Lindstrom-G Boston College Garrett Bradbury-C North Carolina State Jaylon Ferguson-DE Louisana Tech Anthony Nelson-DE Iowa Charles Omenihu-DE Texas Christian Wilkins-DL Clemson Daylon Mack-DL Texas A&M Daniel Wise-DL Kansas Rock Ya Sin-CB Temple Amani Oruwariye-CB Penn State Blace Brown-CB Troy Corey Ballantine-CB Washburn I'd be in for 1. Wilkins - DT 2. Risner - OT 3. Kaden Smith - TE Stanford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I would nominate DK Metcalf and Devin White as process guys based on their physical profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, WideRightRevenge said: Pretty classy video ... I'm an instant fan and nothing wrong with two LSU players with same last name on our defense This dude has wisdom beyond his years. Hope he's a Bill on day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 For guys high on White, he ran a sub 4.5 40 before his senior year. He is 6’1, 248. I don’t think he makes it until 9 but we can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, CommonCents said: For guys high on White, he ran a sub 4.5 40 before his senior year. He is 6’1, 248. I don’t think he makes it until 9 but we can hope. Depends on the QBs. 9 is a good spot for Lbers. Patrick Willis was 11, Luke Kuechly was 9, and Roquan Smith was 8. All ran 4.5 and all might be slightly better than White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dkollidas said: Just going off what we’ve seen with this management and coaching staff put together in terms of the “character” players, etc. just wondering if anyone has noticed guys that seem to be “McBeane” character guys. Last year I saw Harrison Phillips as such an obvious one for us. And sure enough it ended up happening ( I thought Phillips was going to go round 2, but they did well and got him in the 3rd). my guys so far this year... OL- Dalton Risner- Kansas St. - Was at the senior bowl. Check. Played tackle guard and center, so versatile. Check. Buddies with Harrison Phillips and spoke about how he’d be happy if he was selected by the Bills (I don’t have a link but read the quote somewhere when they interviewed him at the senior bowl). Check. Blue collar type of guy with no off-field red flags... check check check. I see Buffalo looking for Risner in the 2nd Round, moving up if they feel necessary. DT- Christian Wilkins- Clemson - Also a Senior. Check. Said to have a non-stop motor. Check. Leadership? Unquestioned. Check. John Ledyard from The Draft Network on Wilkins: ”Toughness, leadership and effort can’t be questioned. Hard-working on and off the field and described as a rare personality and leader at the college level” If Buffalo has to stay at 9, I could see him being an option. I could also see him being an option if they manage to get two offensive linemen and sign a Tyrell Williams or Golden Tate. Or if they move down and manage to have two 1st Round Picks (Via Raiders). Anyone else have anyone they’d like to add? We're do we expect to go with Ty Williams and Golden Tate as our wrs? I rather flip your plan use the money on oline and skill position in draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 11 hours ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Deebo Samuel Really warming up to this kid in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 hours ago, ClemsonBills said: Unfortunately he won’t be there Wow you already know how the draft plays out? Just tell me the rest of the 1st round and I can do something else that day :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Wow you already know how the draft plays out? Just tell me the rest of the 1st round and I can do something else that day ? You know it’s true as well. He won’t slide to 9. But we would both love it if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) This is the "process" WR that I hope we draft. Originally projected to go in round 6 or 7, but I believe he will go in 3-4 once the combine, etc is complete. Keelan Doss School: UC Davis Position: Wide Receiver Class: Senior Height: 6’3 Weight: 206 Projected Draft Round: 3-5 Scouting Report: Out of the box ready to play NFL type receiver that runs exceptional routes and understands the subtle aspects of the passing game. Burner for a big man, and can create separation by running past defenders, and wins contested balls. Hits the ball at its highest point and fights for every catch. Very mature, and has superb character and leadership skills. Electrifying small school Burner Looks to Fly up Boards. Keelan Doss of UC Davis is big physical wideout that will win the 50/50 ball battle. Runs flawless routes has quick body movement works his way open or just out jumps the competition with his awe inspiring grabs and his incredibly strong reliable hands. Can split the secondary with his athletic tough style, make the big plays in tight coverage with his quick short area movements great handwork , perception along with tremendous timing. Great vertical can highpoint the ball out jumping defenders or just plain outclassing them. Size speed combo every OC is in search for. Long arms, amazing extension too pluck balls out the air. Can also go down low to make the tough grab on underthrown passes or on come back routes. His production exploded in 2017 and he will look to improve on his amazing JR season. Plays with a Chip on his shoulder because Cal Davis was the only College to recruit him out of H.S. https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2018/08/keelan-doss/ Edited February 20, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Problem is it's hard to tell who are the serious leaders, the guys who love the game and are smart on the field until you either actually coach them or get a pipeline to coaches at their school. So at the Senior Bowl we see a number of those guys, and it's obvious who they are, to us and to McBeane, and that's why they seem to go with those guys. As for us fans, it's really hard to tell because that's the image they're all trying to convey right now. Remember Dareus telling our coaches that if we didn't draft him he'd come in here and beat our butts again and again. Sounded great, but it's just what he'd been coached to say. It wasn't especially who he was. Some guys are really widely acclaimed as leaders and guys who love the game, and those guys even the fans know. For most, we don't know yet and what we do know later is about half P.R. I'm expecting Senior Bowl guys again. Other than that I'm hoping their pipeline to the colleges works. So far, it seems to be really good, from their draft results. Rex Ryan ruined Dareus. Hell he ruined our whole D Edited February 20, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Garrett Bradbury OC NC State Chris Lindstrom OG Boston College T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa Terrill Hanks is the perfect undersized former safety who became a LB. Much like Milano and Dorian O'Daniel who the Bills brought in for a pre draft visit last year. Dalton Risner OT Kansas State Big fan of the first three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Sorry I could care less about PROCESS BLUE COLLAR players. Why is it Bills fans love blue collar teams? Blue collar teams don't do well in the NFL anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Sorry I could care less about PROCESS BLUE COLLAR players. Why is it Bills fans love blue collar teams? Blue collar teams don't do well in the NFL anymore. I’m not doing it because I necessarily want these players. I’m trying to gain further knowledge on who to expect the Bills to draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 hours ago, ClemsonBills said: You know it’s true as well. He won’t slide to 9. But we would both love it if he did. I don't think he will but ILB don't usually go very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Jordan Phillips doesnt have character 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: Sorry I could care less about PROCESS BLUE COLLAR players. Why is it Bills fans love blue collar teams? Blue collar teams don't do well in the NFL anymore. Yeah it does get old hearing everyone regurgitate the word character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Really warming up to this kid in round 2. Agreed, his injury history may shy us away however, but if that’s the case then We would shy away from D.K. and I don’t then no that is going to be the case. I feel like DK fits their mold but Deebo would be a good fall back plan in round two. Reminds me a little of DJ Moore from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 20 hours ago, PIZ said: Reminds me of Jerry Hughes. I like him too. I worry about trading back and missing out on him. Same worry I have about trading back for TJ Hockenstein. like the Hughes reference. Honest question Do Bills trade out of nine with having a firm plan and nods and winks amongst other similar minded GM s. i think at that in the first round ? If they move, they know who they will get. Or willing to take one of two or three players of equal or better value. The missing out thing i sure hope ! does not apply to getting your first round pick (s) : ) everything about Risner say Bills. including Risner actually saying it too. lol ps nice thread topic : ) very Billsy. in the good way ! 6 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: This is the "process" WR that I hope we draft. Originally projected to go in round 6 or 7, but I believe he will go in 3-4 once the combine, etc is complete. Keelan Doss School: UC Davis Position: Wide Receiver Class: Senior Height: 6’3 Weight: 206 Projected Draft Round: 3-5 Scouting Report: Out of the box ready to play NFL type receiver that runs exceptional routes and understands the subtle aspects of the passing game. Burner for a big man, and can create separation by running past defenders, and wins contested balls. Hits the ball at its highest point and fights for every catch. Very mature, and has superb character and leadership skills. Electrifying small school Burner Looks to Fly up Boards. Keelan Doss of UC Davis is big physical wideout that will win the 50/50 ball battle. Runs flawless routes has quick body movement works his way open or just out jumps the competition with his awe inspiring grabs and his incredibly strong reliable hands. Can split the secondary with his athletic tough style, make the big plays in tight coverage with his quick short area movements great handwork , perception along with tremendous timing. Great vertical can highpoint the ball out jumping defenders or just plain outclassing them. Size speed combo every OC is in search for. Long arms, amazing extension too pluck balls out the air. Can also go down low to make the tough grab on underthrown passes or on come back routes. His production exploded in 2017 and he will look to improve on his amazing JR season. Plays with a Chip on his shoulder because Cal Davis was the only College to recruit him out of H.S. https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2018/08/keelan-doss/ Thanks for the gem ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: like the Hughes reference. Honest question Do Bills trade out of nine with having a firm plan and nods and winks amongst other similar minded GM s. i think at that in the first round ? If they move, they know who they will get. Or willing to take one of two or three players of equal or better value. The missing out thing i sure hope ! does not apply to getting your first round pick (s) : ) everything about Risner say Bills. including Risner actually saying it too. lol ps nice thread topic : ) very Billsy. in the good way ! I'm sure if they trade down they would only do so if they have a group of guys targeted in that trade down. They wouldn't do it if they have 1 guy targeted. I guess the "missing out" was me as a fan missing out on the guy I want.... Risner. My top 3 guys for the Bills are Risner, Jawaan Taylor, and Hockenstein. If they get 1 of them in a trade down, I'd be happy. If they can somehow get 2, I'd be very happy. If they get all 3 I would be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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