D'haquille aka Duke Williams, Bills' newest WR better than any draft prospect

[starrymessenger]

Duke has been given a great opportunity with the Bills. This WR corps really needs and could be much improved if it had a big nasty physical possession receiver. There is a reason the Bills were interested in Boldin even at the end of his career. That would be Duke's role on this team. But it's going to be a big challenge. Those saying that you cannot compare CFL DBs with the quality players he will be going up against in the NFL are right. None of those guys you see in his highlight reel could likely make an NFL roster, let alone start. The difference especially at those high pay grade positions is exponential. And the go routes you see him running in Canada maybe look nice on tape but that will not be his job in Buffalo. Brown and Foster do that. He will be running short and intermediate level slants and outs, curls, digs and comebacks. If he hits a seam he could have decent YAC. He's big and fast enuf.

He tracks the ball well and has strong hands. He is not a body catcher. He is capable of high pointing the ball but often his elevation, while good enuf to beat a CFL DB, is not as good as it seems, especially when he is falling away from the ball. He will also need to keep his feet under him more. All this falling down is bush league stuff. 

He needs to concentrate on what they want him to do, be humble and work hard. If he can do that he's got a chance based on raw talent. Those saying he's today's DaRick are mistaken. Whether he gets it done or not if anything he's better than that.

[Alphadawg7]

He really is nothing like Da'Rick IMO.  That guy was beyond stupid, not coachable, and just wasn't the same situation as Duke IMO.  

 

I openly admit, I am high on Dukes potential because I like what he brings to the team compared to what we already have.  I still recognize he has a lot of work to do and prove, but people talk about him as if his speed is too slow for the NFL yet he's faster than Jerry Rice was, the GOAT.  You don't have to be blazing fast, there are different levels to attack.  Its going to be more about can he hit the cuts and accelerate more than his straight line speed.  Having some semi-pro experience will help in that transition too IMO.  

 

DISCLAIMER:  I am in NO WAY at all comparing our WR group to what I am about to say...talking more about how different types of WRs can be very complimentary in a passing attack.  

 

Vikings come to mind here when I think about how Duke could play a role along the sides of guys like Brown and Foster.  And I am referencing the Randy Moss and Cris Carter Vikings (BEFORE FREAKING OUT, READ DISCLAIMER ABOVE AGAIN AND SPARE ME THE REPLY PLEASE).  

 

Moss was by far that home run, big play WR.  Cris Carter was a guy who was masterful at body position, out muscling his defenders, and being a target who can be open in tight situations when most WRs cant be open.  He didn't beat them with elite speed, he beat them by being physical and positioning.  

 

Feel like people fail to read too often here...so again, in no way am I comparing our WR group to arguably the best DUO to play together in terms of talent.  Talking strictly how the two types can compliment a WR group in styles of play only.  

 

But we have guys like Brown and Foster to take the top off, and then we got a very quick and twitchy guy in Cole that is hard to cover underneath in short to mid areas but can still take off on you too.  Now add in someone like Duke who gives our big QB a big target to work with in the end zone, short yardage, 3rd downs, etc and that can be a very nice piece to allow Daboll to attack many levels of the D on any given play.  Add in Kroft/Knox and Shady out of the back field, and suddenly we may not have a tier 1 like target out there, but we got guys putting pressure all over the field.  

 

I think Duke has a better chance to make this roster than people think.  That being said, I also believe David Sills V will be someone to watch to play a similar role and push Duke in this competition.  

[without a drought]

  Let's put some perspective into Duke's stats playing for the Eskimos in the CFL. In 2015 their top 2 receivers had 93 catches for 1304 yds and 89 for 1110. In 2016 the same 2 guys had 120 for 1761 and 109 for 1589. In 2017 their 3rd wr from the previous year put up 109 for 1687. Then in 2018 it was Duke's turn after being jag the season before. This season last year's number 3wr will put up 100 catches and 1500+ yards.

 

  I wish nothing but the best, but I'm not expecting a hidden gem.

 

[wppete]

53 minutes ago, without a drought said:

  Let's put some perspective into Duke's stats playing for the Eskimos in the CFL. In 2015 their top 2 receivers had 93 catches for 1304 yds and 89 for 1110. In 2016 the same 2 guys had 120 for 1761 and 109 for 1589. In 2017 their 3rd wr from the previous year put up 109 for 1687. Then in 2018 it was Duke's turn after being jag the season before. This season last year's number 3wr will put up 100 catches and 1500+ yards.

 

  I wish nothing but the best, but I'm not expecting a hidden gem.

 

 

He dominated at auburn and the CFL. Let’s hope he is motivated and it translates to the NFL. 

[Alphadawg7]

10 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

He dominated at auburn and the CFL. Let’s hope he is motivated and it translates to the NFL. 

 

One reason I am optimistic on Duke is seems very hungry and has something he wants to prove.  And I like guys with a chip on their shoulder that come to with intensity.  Kind of really what this whole Bills team together is right now.  Being overlooked but will play with that chip to and will IMO be surprising a lot of people this year. 

[dubs]

On 5/2/2019 at 12:59 PM, JustWinPlease said:

I'll believe it when I see it...but I'd bet a lot of money that at least 4-5 WRs have better seasons than Williams this year.

The 49ers signed Eric Rogers and the Colts signed Duron Carter, both of whom were great CFL WRs, and both flamed out within one year.

We'll see how it goes, but I'm not counting this guy on the 53-man roster until he makes it.

(People thought the same thing about Da'Rick Rogers and Ramses Barden, among others I'm sure.)

 

? I absolutely thought that about Da’Rick and Ramses!

 

 

[Lurker]

17 minutes ago, wppete said:

He dominated at auburn and the CFL. 

 

No offense, but he hardly dominated the CFL (who the hell is Brad Sinopoli?) or at Auburn:

 

CFL Stats

	DATE	NAME	TEAM	GP	REC	ATT	YARDS	YAC	AVG	LG	TD	30
1	2018	WILLIAMS, D'haquille	EDM	18	88	152	1579	425	17.9	95	11	11
2	2018	BANKS, Brandon	HAM	14	94	129	1423	380	15.1	78	11	13
3	2018	SINOPOLI, Brad	OTT	17	116	154	1376	486	11.9	38	4	5
4	2018	TASKER, Luke	HAM	15	78	111	1104	396	14.2	56	11	5
5	2018	GREEN, S.J.	TOR	18	83	155	1095	253	13.2	56	4	7
6	2018	ELLINGSON, Greg	OTT	17	91	146	1086	300	11.9	56	5	3
7	2018	BURNHAM, Bryan	BC	18	67	109	1029	205	15.4	55	9	10
8	2018	ADAMS, Darvin	WPG	17	61	110	1028	224	16.9	72	10	9
9	2018	SPENCER, Diontae	OTT	17	81	118	1007	424	12.4	79	7	7
10	2018	EDWARDS, Armanti	TOR	18	73	110	974	266	13.3	69	4	8

 

 

College Stats

						Receiving				Rushing				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Auburn					57	877	15.4	6	0	0		0	57	877	15.4	6
*2014	Auburn	SEC	JR	WR	10	45	730	16.2	5	0	0		0	45	730	16.2	5
*2015	Auburn	SEC	SR	WR	5	12	147	12.3	1	0	0		0	12	147	12.3	1

Edited May 4, 2019 by Lurker

[PIZ]

10 hours ago, Lurker said:

It would be great if Duke pans out but I just don't see it happening.   He's Da'Rick Rogers 2.0 and has a large mountain to climb, IMO.  

 

This story in the BN gives me less--not more--good feelings about him as a prospect....

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/03/buffalo-bills-duke-williams-wide-receiver-viral-nfl-cfl-edmonton-eskimos/

 

Same here.  Lots of negatives about his personality, limited skills, and work ethic are mentioned in the article.

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

11 hours ago, Lurker said:

It would be great if Duke pans out but I just don't see it happening.   He's Da'Rick Rogers 2.0 and has a large mountain to climb, IMO.  

 

 

 

I dunno.......you see the depth chart?

 

He's a couple(inevitable) training camp soft tissue or joint injuries away from no competition for the 6th spot.

 

He probably SHOULD have a large mountain to climb to make an NFL roster but he doesn't.   

 

[Warcodered]

56 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Same here.  Lots of negatives about his personality, limited skills, and work ethic are mentioned in the article.

 

 

Right but there all in their as things he's been progressing and getting past. I mean a bunch of his teammates have all said that he's a great teammate even the guy he knocked on his ass and embarrassed in front of the world. As for limited skills and work ethic it brings up that he hadn't been playing in like what a year or two and that his limited route tree let defenses figure him out, but then it goes on to say by the next season he'd gotten in shape gotten better at additional routes and became the top WR in the CFL. How is that a guy with a bad work ethic?

[PIZ]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Right but there all in their as things he's been progressing and getting past. I mean a bunch of his teammates have all said that he's a great teammate even the guy he knocked on his ass and embarrassed in front of the world. As for limited skills and work ethic it brings up that he hadn't been playing in like what a year or two and that his limited route tree let defenses figure him out, but then it goes on to say by the next season he'd gotten in shape gotten better at additional routes and became the top WR in the CFL. How is that a guy with a bad work ethic?

 

Not saying he has bad work ethic now, but it mentions he had it when he showed up on his first day at the CFL.  I expected to read that he was ready to work after being humbled prior to the CFL.  Don't get me wrong... I hope he succeeds.  I'm just not as hopeful as I was before I read the article.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

Big target?  Not fast?

 

He can have Kelvin Benjamin's number.

[Orlando Tim]

30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Big target?  Not fast?

 

He can have Kelvin Benjamin's number.

I think that is an unfair comparison KB was overweight and lazy. He never seemed to fight for 50/50 balls which duke seems to be willing to do. I am not real high on him but i think he deserves more credit than that.

[Richard Noggin]

10 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

I could see the Bills looking to transition him to a receiving TE. His physical attributes fit that mold a bit better and as a TE,  you don't need top end WR speed. A TE needs to do the things Duke does well: use body for separation and catch / hold the ball when thrown to (and block). 

But he's not a TE. TEs have to line up in-line at least on occasion, and have blocking duties against o-linemen and LBs. 

 

He's a big WR. What you're talking about is a big WR.

2 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

No offense, but he hardly dominated the CFL (who the hell is Brad Sinopoli?) or at Auburn:

 

CFL Stats

	DATE	NAME	TEAM	GP	REC	ATT	YARDS	YAC	AVG	LG	TD	30
1	2018	WILLIAMS, D'haquille	EDM	18	88	152	1579	425	17.9	95	11	11
2	2018	BANKS, Brandon	HAM	14	94	129	1423	380	15.1	78	11	13
3	2018	SINOPOLI, Brad	OTT	17	116	154	1376	486	11.9	38	4	5
4	2018	TASKER, Luke	HAM	15	78	111	1104	396	14.2	56	11	5
5	2018	GREEN, S.J.	TOR	18	83	155	1095	253	13.2	56	4	7
6	2018	ELLINGSON, Greg	OTT	17	91	146	1086	300	11.9	56	5	3
7	2018	BURNHAM, Bryan	BC	18	67	109	1029	205	15.4	55	9	10
8	2018	ADAMS, Darvin	WPG	17	61	110	1028	224	16.9	72	10	9
9	2018	SPENCER, Diontae	OTT	17	81	118	1007	424	12.4	79	7	7
10	2018	EDWARDS, Armanti	TOR	18	73	110	974	266	13.3	69	4	8

 

 

College Stats

						Receiving				Rushing				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Auburn					57	877	15.4	6	0	0		0	57	877	15.4	6
*2014	Auburn	SEC	JR	WR	10	45	730	16.2	5	0	0		0	45	730	16.2	5
*2015	Auburn	SEC	SR	WR	5	12	147	12.3	1	0	0		0	12	147	12.3	1

No offense, but being the most productive receiver in a league does sort of imply something like domination. Semantics might suggest a different word, but your argument isn't helped by last year's stats. 

 

Your argument IS helped by his college stats, however.

[junior]

11 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

My concern would be Williams learning the playbook.  And since there are no running starts in the NFL and few 180 pound CBs, that play he made in the CFL (while fun to watch) is pretty irrelevant...

 

Is there any indication that he's incapable of learning the playbook? (I haven't read through this thread at all, so I have no idea if that's a legitimate concern.)

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 hours ago, junior12thman92 said:

 

Is there any indication that he's incapable of learning the playbook? (I haven't read through this thread at all, so I have no idea if that's a legitimate concern.)

Interesting how that works on so many levels.  You haven’t read the thread.  Williams might not be able to learn the playbook.  Billy Joe Hobert didn’t bother to learn the playbook.  ?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 5/3/2019 at 10:43 AM, Doc said:

 

Who knows what will ultimately become of him, but his exchange as a rookie with Mike Reilly reminds me of Foster's exchange with Shady. 

 

?

 

edit: ok found it maybe?

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/how-lesean-mccoy-helped-put-robert-foster-s-game-on-the-right-path

 

yep, similar

[Scorp83]

On 2/6/2019 at 4:45 PM, IgotBILLStopay said:

Just closely watched these highlights. The guy is arguably a more complete receiver than anyone coming out of college this year. He has speed (why did he run only a 4.72 at the combine?), separation, elevation, ability to catch in traffic and is elusive enough to rack up YAC. Almost every throw he catches at its highest point (except for the one where he was unsighted and it hits his helmet - he still comes up with it). Enjoy!! Very Very underrated signing by the Bills - could have a shot at our #1 if he has really matured from his college days.

 

 

https://www.cover1.net/farhan-lalji-of-tsn-discusses-bills-signing-of-wr-duke-williams/

 

Report from a Vancouver reporter who watched him all year. 8-10 teams wanted him - but he chose Buffalo for the fit. Highlights fit with josh Allen due to catch radius and high pointing the catch.

 

Coaches from CFL lauded his humility, focus hard work etc.

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

[BADOLBILZ]

11 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

 

 

Easily Beane's biggest weakness so far has been moves at WR.

 

First he showed a lack of awareness of a shift in the league by trying to load up on big, lumbering WR's who couldn't get open.     And even if you set aside that other teams were aware that getting WR's who create separation was becoming critical and Beane did not...........why would you give a QB like Tyrod Taylor, who would only throw the ball to open receivers, a bunch of guys that he would have to make contested throws to?    UTTER STUPIDITY that first season.

 

Then last year he got wise to the obvious trend toward WR who get open.........but still didn't land a decent one in UFA or draft one.    If he hadn't gotten incredibly lucky with Robert Foster in UDFA it would have been hands down the worst WR corps in the NFL.     This year he adds a couple back-of-career patches in UFA in Brown and Beasley but still leaves the team with one of the weaker WR corps in the league.   

 

If Bob Foster doesn't continue his trajectory.........which has to be considered a strong possibility considering his track record.............this could be a pretty awful WR corps.  

 

 

Edited May 5, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[Doc]

13 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

 

Why should he have?  It was a bad draft class for WR's.  That's why he went out and got Brown and Beasley, to go with Foster, who should only continue to get better.  And while there's a long thread about Zay not being here, I think he'll make a fine WR4.  If they get anything out of Duke, Sills, Easley or any other undrafted player, it will be gravy.

 

And getting WR's who can get separation is a recent trend?  Really?

Edited May 5, 2019 by Doc

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Easily Beane's biggest weakness so far has been moves at WR.

 

First he showed a lack of awareness of a shift in the league by trying to load up on big, lumbering WR's who couldn't get open.     And even if you set aside that other teams were aware that getting WR's who create separation was becoming critical and Beane did not...........why would you give a QB like Tyrod Taylor, who would only throw the ball to open receivers, a bunch of guys that he would have to make contested throws to?    UTTER STUPIDITY that first season.

 

Then last year he got wise to the obvious trend toward WR who get open.........but still didn't land a decent one in UFA or draft one.    If he hadn't gotten incredibly lucky with Robert Foster in UDFA it would have been hands down the worst WR corps in the NFL.     This year he adds a couple back-of-career patches in UFA in Brown and Beasley but still leaves the team with one of the weaker WR corps in the league.   

 

If Bob Foster doesn't continue his trajectory.........which has to be considered a strong possibility considering his track record.............this could be a pretty awful WR corps.  

 

 

 

...swear to God you're on a mission to make the Sun go into PERMANENT hiding from you......

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Easily Beane's biggest weakness so far has been moves at WR.

 

First he showed a lack of awareness of a shift in the league by trying to load up on big, lumbering WR's who couldn't get open.     And even if you set aside that other teams were aware that getting WR's who create separation was becoming critical and Beane did not...........why would you give a QB like Tyrod Taylor, who would only throw the ball to open receivers, a bunch of guys that he would have to make contested throws to?    UTTER STUPIDITY that first season.

 

Then last year he got wise to the obvious trend toward WR who get open.........but still didn't land a decent one in UFA or draft one.    If he hadn't gotten incredibly lucky with Robert Foster in UDFA it would have been hands down the worst WR corps in the NFL.     This year he adds a couple back-of-career patches in UFA in Brown and Beasley but still leaves the team with one of the weaker WR corps in the league.   

 

If Bob Foster doesn't continue his trajectory.........which has to be considered a strong possibility considering his track record.............this could be a pretty awful WR corps.  

 

 

 

I come to the same conclusion (that the WR moves have been the biggest weakness of this regime) through a different path.

 

I don't think Beane loaded up on "big lumbering WR who couldn't get open".  Jordan Matthews ran a 4.46 40 and a 4.16 shuttle and was the all-time SEC leader in receptions when he came out.  Zay Jones ran a 4.45 40 and a 4.01 shuttle and was the all-time FBS receptions leader when he came out.  I think Beane thought they were getting good route runners with the fundamental athletic abilities and the college football success to build on, to be coached up into good all-purpose NFL receivers.  Benjamin fits the description of a "big lumbering WR who can't get open" but who else?  I mean in hindsight, Jones and Matthews struggled but the point is that wasn't their profile or expectation when acquired.

 

I don't think Beane had a thought for Tyrod Taylor when he made any roster moves in 2017.  In my opinion, when the Bills snagged Benjamin, Beane already knew they were targeting Allen next draft and was looking for pieces he thought would help there, like a guy with a zip-code catch radius who was always open 2 feet over his tall head.

 

The whole WR acquisition history under McBeane seems to me like too much paper scouting, and not enough attention to actual eyes on the field.  Even WITH Foster getting the "clue bird" 2nd half of last season, I think you could make an argument we in fact had the worst WR corps in the NFL.  Who was worse?

 

I think in Brown and Beasley, Beane is trying to bring in experienced guys who will run precise, consistent routes and put out consistent effort, as an example to Zay, Foster, and the younger guys.  I think we're stronger going in than we were last year, but that's a low bar.

 

14 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

 

Yep.  Just as there's "college open", there's "CFL open" - different game with the WR allowed a running start and the wider and longer field.  Will it translate to the NFL, assuming he's learnt his lessons about work ethic and avoiding trouble for well-and-good?  Hope so but we can't tell until we see him on gameday.

 

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...swear to God you're on a mission to make the Sun go into PERMANENT hiding from you......

 

I had to pull the shades down in my study.  The sun glare off my car hood was blinding me.  BadOl does have a point here.

[IgotBILLStopay]

On 5/5/2019 at 12:19 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I come to the same conclusion (that the WR moves have been the biggest weakness of this regime) through a different path.

 

I had the same initial thoughts (say around last November), but have since become more accepting of the Bills' WR strategy. Here's why it might still be too early to come up with a definitive conclusion that it is a weakness.

 

Yes Zay has not been as great as advertised - but Beane was not here when he was drafted. After Matthews was hurt (but we had serious playoff hopes) - Beane had to find a replacement on the fly - and that is why he got KB - was anyone else available? Last season was all about finding a QB - so we used up a ton of draft capital there(not helped by the 2017 playoff appearance) - not enough left for a decent WR, Our deadcap also prevented us from getting anyone halfway decent (even in FA 2018 WR market was thin with only Landry, Watkins and Robinson being halfway decent). And he does deserve credit for finding Robert Foster! So cannot really say that WR moves have been a weakness, can we? 

 

This year's draft class for WR was underwhelming - there is a reason only no WR went in the first 24 picks. So, in FA, he tried to get AB and wound up with experienced guys in Brown and Beasley. They may not have set Lake Ontario on fire - but they have a track record of being good and are nothing to sneeze at. Now Next year's WR class promises to be better - Jeudy, Johnson, Shenault, Rogers, Ruggs and Callaway all appear to be better than this year's crop. We can disagree on how good Duke can be - but the fact remains that 8-10 teams wanted Duke and Beane signed him - that is not bad, eh?

 

Bottomline - you cant make chicken wings outa chicken sh*t. Beane appears to have done well given the hand he has been dealt (limited draft capital - need for a QB, weak 2018 FA for WR and weak 2019 Draft for WR). One can quibble about not taking up Sammy's 5th year option (the EJG trade was fine mind you - it helped get Allen and EJG helped take us to the playoffs) - but it is not clear at all that WR moves have been a big weakness for Beane. I believe moving from a top 5 of Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Jeremy Kerley &  Ray-Ray McCloud to a top 5 of John Brown, Robert Foster, Zay Jones, Cole Beasley & Duke WIlliams / Roberts represents significant progress.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay

[JaCrispy]

On 5/4/2019 at 10:57 PM, Scorp83 said:

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

News flash... we live in a world where no team really valued this years WR class, as evidenced by where they were drafted.

[Flip Johnson]

The Bills website lists him at 225lbs - 14 lbs heavier than any other WR on the team and 25-30 lbs heavier than most.

 

He looks like Keith McKeller to me - can't believe how slow those CFL DBs are.

[Rocky Landing]

Here’s a bold prediction— Duke Williams could end up being one of the best blocking WRs we’ve ever had. 

[ndirish1978]

On 5/5/2019 at 11:08 AM, Doc said:

 

Why should he have?  It was a bad draft class for WR's.  That's why he went out and got Brown and Beasley, to go with Foster, who should only continue to get better.  And while there's a long thread about Zay not being here, I think he'll make a fine WR4.  If they get anything out of Duke, Sills, Easley or any other undrafted player, it will be gravy.

 

And getting WR's who can get separation is a recent trend?  Really?

 

This flies in the face of what was reported by every single draft analyst and GM out there. This was a solid WR class, not elite, but solid.

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

This flies in the face of what was reported by every single draft analyst and GM out there. This was a solid WR class, not elite, but solid.

 

Next year's class is supposed to be elite.  We'll see.

[BillsFan17]

On 5/4/2019 at 10:57 PM, Scorp83 said:

When you live in a world where our GM doesn't value any of the WR's in this draft class... then this is how low we have to stoop. Until he proves it... I just can't get my Hope's up

Absolutely lazy ass take. The league is shifting towards guys who can create seperation. This draft class lacked guys who could separate and separate consistently. Hence the way the draft played out, and where these players were in fact drafted.

 

Williams is a low risk, potential high reward if his game can translate to the NFL.

 

Moreover, it not like the Bills only snagged Williams and are trying to trot him out as their starter. They made a multitude if moves at the skill position to open up the offense.

[Warcodered]

51 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

This flies in the face of what was reported by every single draft analyst and GM out there. This was a solid WR class, not elite, but solid.

There were only 2 WR that went in the first round and they went pretty late as well. I think that still lines up with a solid class with plenty of guys going in the middle rounds a real elite class I think will have more guys go in the first and higher up which works real well with getting a WR since even if you aren't picking high enough to get one of those elite guys you can still get some of the better solid ones as they get pushed down the draft.

[Mat68]

22 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

Absolutely lazy ass take. The league is shifting towards guys who can create seperation. This draft class lacked guys who could separate and separate consistently. Hence the way the draft played out, and where these players were in fact drafted.

 

Williams is a low risk, potential high reward if his game can translate to the NFL.

 

Moreover, it not like the Bills only snagged Williams and are trying to trot him out as their starter. They made a multitude if moves at the skill position to open up the offense.

I think you have to take what the draft gives you.  This year they got an elite 3 tech and top RT.  Next year seems loaded with better wr talent.

[BADOLBILZ]

On 5/5/2019 at 11:48 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...swear to God you're on a mission to make the Sun go into PERMANENT hiding from you......

 

 

For me the sun doesn't rise and set with the Bills the way it does for you.

 

Just a pro sports product.   It's an interest.

 

And I'd advise you not to tell God you think the sun rises and sets on them for you........you know what the Bible says about false idols and resting on the Sabbath and such.  

 

Exodus: "Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death."............which is why Beane and McDermott must be executed if they fail!
 

 

[Bill from NYC]

15 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Next year's class is supposed to be elite.  We'll see.

Oh it really is Doc. There will be wide receivers all over rounds 1 & 2.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

For me the sun doesn't rise and set with the Bills the way it does for you.

 

Just a pro sports product.   It's an interest.

 

And I'd advise you not to tell God you think the sun rises and sets on them for you........you know what the Bible says about false idols and resting on the Sabbath and such.  

 

Exodus: "Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death."............which is why Beane and McDermott must be executed if they fail!
 

 

 

...exactly DEAD WRONG about me bud...I have followed the Bills since 1962 with them 70 miles west of Rochester......a diehard fan of them solely?.....not a diehard fan of ANY nor of any SOLELY...would I like to have them be successful as my first choice?..guilty as charged....if not, do I head for the Peace Bridge?....ain't happenin'....do I own a Bills jersey or other Bills memorabilia?...nope.....have a "Bills Man Cave"?.......nope...ever had season tix?...well nope AGAIN......Bills decals or license plates on my vehicles?...well, well nope AGAIN.....thus your perceived factual statements about me are baseless falsehoods...but then again, you think you know everything.....SMH....

[Boca BIlls]

21 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

Here’s a bold prediction— Duke Williams could end up being one of the best blocking WRs we’ve ever had. 

Robert Woods was a beast at blocking.

[Punching Bag]

38 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Robert Woods was a beast at blocking.

 

Yes even with injury he was a better blocker than 90% of Bills WRs.

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

Yes even with injury he was a better blocker than 90% of Bills WRs.

 

....and look at how much the financial part has changed with Robert's $8 mil/yr deal being exorbitant.....think he wanted to move on anyway being a Cali guy......

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said:

Robert Woods was a beast at blocking.

That is absolutely true. 

But, watch DW utterly lay out this BC Lions CB-- a completely legal hit, in the CFL. It's what he has vowed to bring. 

https://www.12up.com/posts/6265633-bills-sign-cfl-wide-receiver-who-absolutely-destroyed-defender-in-viral-video

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...exactly DEAD WRONG about me bud...I have followed the Bills since 1962 with them 70 miles west of Rochester......a diehard fan of them solely?.....not a diehard fan of ANY nor of any SOLELY...would I like to have them be successful as my first choice?..guilty as charged....if not, do I head for the Peace Bridge?....ain't happenin'....do I own a Bills jersey or other Bills memorabilia?...nope.....have a "Bills Man Cave"?.......nope...ever had season tix?...well nope AGAIN......Bills decals or license plates on my vehicles?...well, well nope AGAIN.....thus your perceived factual statements about me are baseless falsehoods...but then again, you think you know everything.....SMH....

 

 

Um........cool story.

 

My response was a play on your "God and Sun" nonsense you chucklehead.

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

That is absolutely true. 

But, watch DW utterly lay out this BC Lions CB-- a completely legal hit, in the CFL. It's what he has vowed to bring. 

https://www.12up.com/posts/6265633-bills-sign-cfl-wide-receiver-who-absolutely-destroyed-defender-in-viral-video

 

A bit different in the CFL where the WR get a running start before the snap