HappyDays Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's not Sammy good, yet he might be Robert Woods good with a little more speed. Woods is better than Sammy. But I dont think Williams is better than either of them. There is a lot of depth at the receiver position in the draft this year so I wouldn't overpay him. I would overpay for an offensive line and go for a true #1 WR in the 1st or 2nd round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: What's he supposed to say? "No, I'm not a #1 WR. There are tons of guys around the league that are better than me. I max out as a #2 WR." No because that wouldn't be as funny to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 If we sign him, I pray that he’s right. If we don’t sign him, I doubt he ever becomes a #1. ****, I doubt he becomes one if we sign him, but I hope he’s right. Josh Allen will have to be the best QB ever before he becomes that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Woods is better than Sammy. But I dont think Williams is better than either of them. There is a lot of depth at the receiver position in the draft this year so I wouldn't overpay him. I would overpay for an offensive line and go for a true #1 WR in the 1st or 2nd round. Why not acquire a new Top WR in Free Agency if you can AND draft one high? The team needs a big transfusion of Offensive talent immeadiately.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Rivers reminds me exactly of Peyton in that last year when he won the superbowl with only 13 passes completed and had a total noodle arm. Wobbly, big arc. Easy to catch when they finally arrive. And if this guy drops Rivers' passes, how is he expected to catch Allen's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I’m not even worried about it.. Beane isn’t stupid enough to over pay Williams. Let some other team do that honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 TyrLOL Williams. right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Your comparing him to Zay Jones. The few few games I saw of him he dropped some damn easy throws from a weak armed Rivers. Cant imagine catching balls from Allen will be easy. you mean the two that you saw? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, ScottLaw said: Five actually. Wasn't too impressed. Are you going to get mad again? you want some pepper with that saltiness?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Your comparing him to Zay Jones. The few few games I saw of him he dropped some damn easy throws from a weak armed Rivers. Cant imagine catching balls from Allen will be easy. Of course I compare him to Zay. Last I checked Jones is the closest thing we have to a #1 guy. I'm guessing you watched 1 game and he dropped 2 passes. Take a look at his career. His entire body of work. See that stat sheet and drop rate. Come on Scott, it's right in front of you. There's not much out there. Do you want an old washed up Golden Tate. If we did make him an offer it would probably be 4/44M....nothing more. This whole argument is probably moot anyway since our #1 will come from the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, teef said: you want some pepper with that saltiness?! He’s been well past salty since the BBMB days. Dude is constantly red with anger. Edited January 30, 2019 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: He’s been well past salty since the BBMB days. Dude is constantly red with anger. what do you think made scott unhappy? there has to be a back story here. no one is that salty without a back story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, teef said: what do you think made scott unhappy? there has to be a back story here. no one is that salty without a back story. He was a hardcore fan of Bob Saget as host of AFV. Then Saget left.....Scott still can’t handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Lmao, anger? Don't misconstrue criticism of the team with me being angry. Just because I call the franchise out for its mistakes and questions their decisions doesn't mean I'm mad. It is just an honest, accurate assessment, but it obviously hurts people's feelings. this answer is angry in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Well of course, but its an asset allocation issue. The value of a WR1, or those guys in particular, does not increase the quality of your team enough to offset the loss created by signing those guys. Scotty doesn't think in abstract terms when it comes to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Lmao, anger? Don't misconstrue criticism of the team with me being angry. Just because I call the franchise out for its mistakes and questions their decisions doesn't mean I'm mad. It is just an honest, accurate assessment, but it obviously hurts people's feelings. You know the Bills didn’t actually sign this player, right? What “mistake” you are referring to? How do you know your assessment of this player is “accurate” if you only watched 5 of his games? I assume you aren’t a pro scout studying his All-22 film. It’s just an opinion, like the rest of the ones on here. May be an accurate assessment, may not be. Just like the others. Also i don’t think anyone’s “feelings are hurt” about an assessment of Tyrell Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: He's not Sammy good, yet he might be Robert Woods good with a little more speed. ummm, Robert Woods is better than Watkins. Unrealized talent is just that, unrealized. Woods has been the better player and I'd venture to guess he will continue to be the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Life would be boring without a get off my lawn guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I like him but not a #1 price tag. I hope Bean looks at John Brown again this year. Hopefully get him atba good price on a 3 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Spotrac says his value is 3 years 28.9 mil. I'd gladly hand him a contract like that and draft a WR in the 1st round. I would love our 4 receivers then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think anyone who signs him to be the #1 WR will be disappointed, I see a very good WR but not a difference maker imo. There was some injuries to Keenan Allen and Mike Williams the past couple of years and Williams only put up modest numbers again in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Stop with Tyrell, and if you believe he's a true number 1, i feel sorry for you. A true number 1 is someone that can produce when you're double and tripled team. Anyone think he can actually produce when he's double teamed? Sorry but I'd rather save the money and go into 2019-2020 with Foster as our number 1. EVERY team has a number 1 WR on their roster obviously but just because you're a number 1 WR for an inferior passing attack doesn't make you a true number 1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Good for him. He's really not though. I have a feeling he will over-value himself, especially early on, and then settle for a lesser deal after the initial phase of FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I live in SD and have seen him play a bunch. Definition of JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Every post you quote of mine is anger in itself bud. I get you so mad. You calling someone mad is like Al Sharpton calling someone preachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Get some help says the dude on this board 24/7 with the updates. ? You’re saltier than the rim of a margarita glass. (These doing anything for anyone?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, teef said: you mean the two that you saw? ...LMAO..."Teef 101"........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 With slim FA pickings and several teams in need of WRs, he will be overpaid - but nowhere close to Sammy Watkins money. Maybe 9-10 mill per year. Now shd we have him at that price? I cant decide. If we get him at for less than 8 mill per year, that will be Ok I guess. More than 10 mill per year - I will pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Spotrac says his value is 3 years 28.9 mil. I'd gladly hand him a contract like that and draft a WR in the 1st round. I would love our 4 receivers then. Getting him for 3 @ 29 would be robbery. I just have a feeling about him. I think he and Josh would have instant chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Spotrac says his value is 3 years 28.9 mil. I'd gladly hand him a contract like that and draft a WR in the 1st round. I would love our 4 receivers then. That's similar to the value they had on Watkins this time last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Lmao, anger? Don't misconstrue criticism of the team with me being angry. Just because I call the franchise out for its mistakes and questions their decisions doesn't mean I'm mad. It is just an honest, accurate assessment, but it obviously hurts people's feelings. Dude, no need to be so angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Passive aggressive teef. Come one man. Your funnier than that. Do you even have to be angry towards jokes Scotty? 7 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Dude, no need to be so angry. My wife would refer to him as a, “catastrophic thinker”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Comes down to what him and his agent feel his worth is. I imagine that is more than what Buffalo feels his worth is. 4 to 6 mil a year is a stretch to me. I think he will ask for more. The wr class is deep l, the FA market is shallow. I think they would be better off looking elsewhere for outside help than FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Comes down to what him and his agent feel his worth is. I imagine that is more than what Buffalo feels his worth is. 4 to 6 mil a year is a stretch to me. I think he will ask for more. The wr class is deep l, the FA market is shallow. I think they would be better off looking elsewhere for outside help than FA. I think he will get $9 Million a year minimum.. probably more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think he will get $9 Million a year minimum.. probably more I would pass. I don't see him ever getting to 80% of that production. There are about 4 guys you can draft on the second day that can do alot of what he brings but with more potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I would pass. I don't see him ever getting to 80% of that production. There are about 4 guys you can draft on the second day that can do alot of what he brings but with more potential. Fair enough.. I would be Ok with it...although not much more and depending on guaranteed dollars.. They have got the money to spend, but as I said, I think he goes elsewhere and they end up with a guy like Tate on similar yearly money for less years given his age.. As I also mentioned earlier, they can draft someone as well... They need plenty of help in the WR ranks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 As others have noted, what's a free agent going to say? "I view myself as a third option?" The market will dictate his decision. I like to look at where guys played college ball to determine whether they'd be into Buffalo. He played his college ball at Oregon State, so that's not bad. He'd be an OK pickup. We're not getting Tyreke Hill, so we've got to consider all options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: You got me. Jokes that aren't funny really get me mad.?? NaCl-ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Magox said: ummm, Robert Woods is better than Watkins. Unrealized talent is just that, unrealized. Woods has been the better player and I'd venture to guess he will continue to be the better player. Woods has been healthier yet skill wise Sammy's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Fair enough.. I would be Ok with it...although not much more and depending on guaranteed dollars.. They have got the money to spend, but as I said, I think he goes elsewhere and they end up with a guy like Tate on similar yearly money for less years given his age.. As I also mentioned earlier, they can draft someone as well... They need plenty of help in the WR ranks... Instead of over paying for 3 or 4 mid level guys, I would go big game hunting. Full court press one of the edge rushers and interior lineman and then sign some young guys to prove it deals after the rush dies down. Bringing a guy in because you have the money is not the answer imo. Especially, where the draft meets your value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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