Another starting lineup shuffle = playin around with the recipe and keeping what tastes good

[transplantbillsfan]

Let the experiment continue 

 

Not the vet with experience in Duccasse getting another shot. It's the younger, less experienced guy.

 

And I bet Sirles plays.

 

Why not?

 

The beauty here is that so many outside "experts" might perceive this as "tanking" or at least, "aw hell, we aren't going anywhere, anyway, let's just play around a bit."

 

I think it's more the way a good cook in a family experiments with a family.

 

Play around with the recipe, but when the family REALLY likes something specific, they note that and stick with at least that, while maybe continuing to tweak other ingredients.

 

Teller seems like a great ingredient, so notice he hasn't left the field.

 

Foster now seems like a great ingredient after seeming spoiled at the start of the season, he sticks.

 

Taron Johnson's stuck.

 

Since Vontae Davis abandoned us, we're experimental with guys like Ryan Lewis and Phillip Gaines, and now it looked like Levi Wallace has stuck.

 

Punters aren't. Gotta play with that ingredient more. We just signed some guy named Darr.

 

Shaq Lawson has suddenly turned a corner, so he sticks.

 

Croom seems to be sticking. Same with Zay Jones.

 

Benjamin seems spoiled, and I worry if this is the 2nd coming of Peterman love... loyalty that equals blindness.

 

Regardless, I love the playing around with the roster. It's about making it better. And it's still about Wins, for this season and beyond.

 

5 games left in a season where we're barely clinging to mathematical playoff hope, but watching this young team and young Franchise QB develop is just so damn fun.

 

I think McDermott is going to have the right ingredients next year from the start

Edited November 29, 2018 by transplantbillsfan

[Doc]

DIdn't Miller get injured against the Jags?

[Misterbluesky]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

DIdn't Miller get injured against the Jags?

His belly hurt,he admitted eating like a pig on Thanksgiving...bones? Groy came in and played most of the second half and held his own.

[MJS]

Should be trying everything they can on the offensive line. It isn't up to par yet. The times that Allen actually decided to stand in the pocket and make a throw he got clobbered. He scrambled so much because pressure got to him so quickly. And then obviously the run blocking is way below par.

 

Luckily we don't face another defensive front so talented for the remainder of the season.

[transplantbillsfan]

52 minutes ago, Doc said:

DIdn't Miller get injured against the Jags?

 

Yeah he did, but there's been some grumblings to see what Sirles has. 

 

And today it's Sirles, not the more experienced Duccasse.

[transplantbillsfan]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

Should be trying everything they can on the offensive line. It isn't up to par yet. The times that Allen actually decided to stand in the pocket and make a throw he got clobbered. He scrambled so much because pressure got to him so quickly. And then obviously the run blocking is way below par.

 

Luckily we don't face another defensive front so talented for the remainder of the season.

 

Yep, the pressure was still there, but it was less and he was smarter.

 

1st game of his young career where he didn't get sacked once.

[SoCal Deek]

I’m as much concerned about the utter lack of push in the running game as pass protection right now. 

[Gugny]

So ..... we dipping these guys in ranch or blue cheese?

[JMF2006]

The thing I like is that McD appreciates a guy who works hard in practice and is willing to give him a shot to prove it in a game.

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

So ..... we dipping these guys in ranch or blue cheese?

 

Gug its Buffalo....it has to be blue cheese

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

The thing I like is that McD appreciates a guy who works hard in practice and is willing to give him a shot to prove it in a game.

 

Gug its Buffalo....it has to be blue cheese

 

Well ....... whilst patronizing the amazing Bar Bill Tavern with my friend, @CountryCletus, I watched him order RANCH with his wings.  I swear I heard the sound of a needle scratching across an album.   @BringBackFergy @Cripple Creek

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

So ..... we dipping these guys in ranch or blue cheese?

 

Shame on you! Wash your mouth out with Ranch! 

[Doc]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Yeah he did, but there's been some grumblings to see what Sirles has. 

 

And today it's Sirles, not the more experienced Duccasse.

 

Yeah, I want to see what Sirles can do as well.  Just wondering if they made the move because Miller is hurt or they demoted him.

[buffaloboyinATL]

10 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Well ....... whilst patronizing the amazing Bar Bill Tavern with my friend, @CountryCletus, I watched him order RANCH with his wings.  I swear I heard the sound of a needle scratching across an album.   @BringBackFergy @Cripple Creek

Oh wow! You just outed Cletus. He may have to create a new identity as he may never live down that disgraceful decision. 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Oh wow! You just outed Cletus. He may have to create a new identity as he may never live down that disgraceful decision. 

 

Oh .... the night got worse for him .... trust me! (Fergy can chime in from here)

[Royale with Cheese]

I think we could see 3 new starters on the line next year...starting at Bodine and working right.  I would guess they hit the FA pool of offensive lineman hard.

I don't see a lot of talent at WR next offseason in FA so I think the money goes to the line.  

[buffaloboyinATL]

15 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Oh .... the night got worse for him .... trust me! (Fergy can chime in from here)

Inquiring minds want to know.

[billsfan1959]

Didn't he play quite a bit in the Chicago game?

[CommonCents]

If the best ingredient you are mixing in is Teller, I’m probably stopping at Wendys on the way over. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think we could see 3 new starters on the line next year...starting at Bodine and working right.  I would guess they hit the FA pool of offensive lineman hard.

I don't see a lot of talent at WR next offseason in FA so I think the money goes to the line.  

Royale. Seeing Gug's posts about Cletus' Buffalo faux pas got me thinking.  We should arange a get together for all of the TBD Bills fans based in Atlanta.  We could meet up at the Duffs in Newnan, or some other Buffalo themed bar.  There seems to be quite a few of us down here.  Thoughts?

 

and yes, I agree, right side of the line should and will be over-hauled next season.

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Royale. Seeing Gug's posts about Cletus' Buffalo faux pas got me thinking.  We should arange a get together for all of the TBD Bills fans based in Atlanta.  We could meet up at the Duffs in Newnan, or some other Buffalo themed bar.  There seems to be quite a few of us down here.  Thoughts?

 

and yes, I agree, right side of the line should and will be over-hauled next season.

 

I'm down.  The Bills bars I know of are The Standard in Roswell, Tavern at Medlock in Norcross and Duff's in Newnan.  Is WhiteHall still the Bills?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Sirles is 27 and older then Miller. I mean, I get he’s younger then Ducasse but it’s not really a youth experiment. He’s not even really that young for nfl standards 

[26CornerBlitz]

Sirles was in a RG in practice only because Miller DNP with an oblique injury.  The interesting thing is Groy wasn't with the 1st unit when the media was present.

[buffaloboyinATL]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm down.  The Bills bars I know of are The Standard in Roswell, Tavern at Medlock in Norcross and Duff's in Newnan.  Is WhiteHall still the Bills?

I'll PM so we don't hijack this thread. We can start a new one once we figure things out.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think we could see 3 new starters on the line next year...starting at Bodine and working right.  I would guess they hit the FA pool of offensive lineman hard.

I don't see a lot of talent at WR next offseason in FA so I think the money goes to the line.  

 

Depends on draft too. If we get a blue Chip left tackle I could see shifting Dawkins to guard or right tackle

[T master]

I wish they would have done this kind of thing right out of the gate this year given that Ducasse & Mills have been a big question mark not to mention Ducasse is on his last leg in the NFL he's been around for ever ! 

 

Going forward this is the right thing to do & i hope in the future McD doesn't forget that if (like he said in the Bills Hard Knocks Video) if the player isn't putting out on the field they will lose their job & not be afraid to go with a rookie to see if they perform better instead of sticking with a player that has proven to be less than NFL average ! 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

So ..... we dipping these guys in ranch or blue cheese?

blue cheese unless you are Mahomes, then we dip them in ketchup.

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, I want to see what Sirles can do as well.  Just wondering if they made the move because Miller is hurt or they demoted him.

i thought sirles was a tackle. i think a lot of miller's problems stem from playing next to mills.  i would prefer for now leaving groy at right guard and switching tackles to see what we can do. 

1 hour ago, dneveu said:

 

Depends on draft too. If we get a blue Chip left tackle I could see shifting Dawkins to guard or right tackle

i think that's the best idea....or a good tackle that's played both sides.

[PaattMaann]

Sirles isnt "young"...hes a 6 year vet that we signed off the street 

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think we could see 3 new starters on the line next year...starting at Bodine and working right.  I would guess they hit the FA pool of offensive lineman hard.

I don't see a lot of talent at WR next offseason in FA so I think the money goes to the line.  

the following are worthless: Bodine, Miller,,,,, barely acceptable: Ducasse, Mills, great potential: Teller, , acceptable versatile backup: Groy, only good O Lineman is Dawkins

 

 

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I can see for the Bills to get to the next level needing five to six new starters on offense 3 lineman, #1 & #3 WR, new RB, and maybe if they can find a #1 TE though I think that may more come from the draft, next season he's still the backup

 

Defensively ideally a pass rushing DE who needs to be double teamed,  a LB to replace Lorax, but again could be a mid level pick who becomes the starter in 2020 and a CB

 

Two good lineman and 1 good WR thru free agency and a CB (but not as another thread suggested Ramsey) the rest thru the draft. Also some short term mid range salary FA for depth

 

And I'd use my #1 pick on WR or DE

[transplantbillsfan]

Sirles practicing again today with Miller sidelined.

 

It'd be nice if we could find some good ingredients for our OL... it's the all important base of the recipe 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Sirles practicing again today with Miller sidelined.

 

It'd be nice if we could find some good ingredients for our OL... it's the all important base of the recipe 

yup, I think our QB's have eaten enough Bullrush Stew for one year. 

[BringBackFergy]

4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Inquiring minds want to know.

Let’s just say @CountryCletus got himself a lesson in proper wing etiquette and kissed the sidewalk for good luck. @Gugny has pictures. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said:

Let’s just say @CountryCletus got himself a lesson in proper wing etiquette and kissed the sidewalk for good luck. @Gugny has pictures. 

sounds like an epic get together.

[BADOLBILZ]

 

 

I appreciate your effort transplant but this thread is a prime example of why you shouldn't get too high after a win.

 

 

 

 

[Chandler#81]

14 hours ago, MJS said:

Should be trying everything they can on the offensive line. It isn't up to par yet. The times that Allen actually decided to stand in the pocket and make a throw he got clobbered. He scrambled so much because pressure got to him so quickly. And then obviously the run blocking is way below par.

 

Luckily we don't face another defensive front so talented for the remainder of the season.

 

Yes. While I expect a few more wins this season, playoff hopes are all but finished. I also expect (Demand?) wholesale changes on the OL this offseason. So it’s smart to give every guy still on the team a crack at impressing the brass before ‘Judgement Day’. I can’t see wasting another camp with Bodine, Miller, Groy, Ducasse or even Mills around. At least I hope so..

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I appreciate your effort transplant but this thread is a prime example of why you shouldn't get too high after a win.

 

 

 

 

 

We need 3 new starters next year...Sirles isn't filling one of them.

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Yes. While I expect a few more wins this season, playoff hopes are all but finished. I also expect (Demand?) wholesale changes on the OL this offseason. So it’s smart to give every guy still on the team a crack at impressing the brass before ‘Judgement Day’. I can’t see wasting another camp with Bodine, Miller, Groy, Ducasse or even Mills around. At least I hope so..

 

All of those guys are decent backups, so I wouldn't mind at all if some of them stick around if their contracts are fine. You just don't want them as starters.

 

Heck, I wouldn't even mind if Mills sticks around as a starter next season if we upgrade at Center and Right Guard. I highly doubt we will be able to upgrade 3 positions on the oline. That's asking a whole lot. There are a lot of other teams in the league looking for oline help.

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

Bills 2018 Holiday Menu:  ( Roadkill Edition) - let's not see this on our 2019 menu.

 

Appetizers:

Bodine's Bullsrush Stew

KB's Egg Drop Soup

Crossman's Butternut Squashed Porridge with Leeks everywhere. 

Peterman's Pick 6 Salad

 

Entree:

Anderson's Scrambled Egg Brain with Biscuits and Gravy

Crushed Ducasse with Glazed Eye Dressing

Clay's Deep Fried Turkey Legs with Butterfinger Sauce and Holmes-made Stuffing 

Vontae's BBQ Chicken and Waffling (Half-time takeout only)

Pressure Cooked Pork Castillo with Crushed RB Peppers and Trampled OLives.

 

Dessert:

Shady's Creamed Line Pie

 

Edited November 29, 2018 by BillsRdue

[transient]

27 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

Bills 2018 Holiday Menu:  ( Roadkill Edition) - let's not see this on our 2019 menu.

 

Appetizers:

Bodine's Bullsrush Stew

KB's Egg Drop Soup

Crossman's Butternut Squashed Porridge with Leeks everywhere. 

Peterman's Pick 6 Salad

 

Entree:

Anderson's Scrambled Egg Brain with Biscuits and Gravy

Crushed Ducasse with Glazed Eye Dressing

Clay's Deep Fried Turkey Legs with Butterfinger Sauce and Holmes-made Stuffing 

Vontae's BBQ Chicken and Waffling (Half-time takeout only)

Pressure Cooked Pork Castillo with Crushed RB Peppers and Trampled OLives.

 

Desert:

Shady's Creamed Line Pie

 

 

Word on the street (though it’s never been substantiated) is that dessert is delivery only, and it’s best if you have witnesses/backup onhand when it’s dropped off, just in case.