26CornerBlitz Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Buffalo Bills cornerback Levi Wallace may be the latest in a line of unsuspecting players to have solid performances during Sean McDermott’s tenure as the team’s head coach. The cornerback spot opposite Tre’Davious White has been a revolving door of mediocre defensive backs for the Bills in 2018. The Bills have watched several players come and go, including Vontae Davis and Phillip Gaines. Ryan Lewis has also been a part of the starting secondary in the past. This come a season after Buffalo allowed EJ Gaines to skip town to Cleveland as a free agent. For the moment, it looks like the Wallace will make his name permanent in the starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I hope he works out, these young guys know they will be tested because teams are not dumb enough to try and throw at Tre. I still want us to draft another corner fairly high in 2019 because I think we need help and you can never have too many good corners. Wallace is long and lean hopefully he does well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The guys has overachieved and overcome all obstacles that have come his way throughout his football life. I think there is a chance that he could be another diamond in the rough and appears to be a gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I think Wallace has all the tools to be a solid starting CB. Let him play and see how he responds. At this point experience may be all he needs. Either way between White, Johnson, and hopefully Wallace and Lewis too, the CB position looks very stout at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Magox said: The guys has overachieved and overcome all obstacles that have come his way throughout his football life. I think there is a chance that he could be another diamond in the rough and appears to be a gamer. yeah i was posting in another thread about him, he's a gamer with a tough back story who approaches the game with a ton of discipline. For what it's worth I think he's the exact sort of player that McD wants to cultivate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It's too early to tell, but it certainly is a good think to wish for. We'll need to see how he holds up against the bigger receivers and better offenses. I am a little worried about his strength against a large receiver due to his slight build, but he is a hard worker who may find ways to overcome that. fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I love guys with a chip on their shoulder and as a walk on at #1 Alabama this kid knows how to fight for what is his spot. BTW when Gaines was stinking out the joint a few weeks ago I posted that they needed to give this kid a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I think between he and Taron Johnson we are starting to look pretty good at CB. The defense as a whole looks pretty good in general outside of some depth and maybe another top tier edge rusher. We will need to re-sign Lorax in the offseason, Jordan Phillips imo, and Kyle if he wants to return. Despite all of the fire everyone threads I believe we are headed in the right direction. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I really like Levi and thought he played quite well. he knows how to use his length and things of like that. My only concern going forward is his strength. He needs to add some weight and strength to his frame. It looked a little like he was having some trouble getting off of blocks in the run game. That will likely be a priority for him going forward. I don't doubt him for one second. He has proved many people wrong so many times. Really rooting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I hope this guy is the answer, we shall see. The CB position was as mishandled as QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Possibly... That's the extent of my analysis so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 He plays longer than his height. kinda reminds me of Richard Sherman. He had elite level coaching at Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 They just played the Jets so not sure that was the greatest test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 What happened to the kid that played well early. His mom was the flight attendant one of our members met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Think what you want of McDermott; however, he has a history of getting the most out of his defensive backfield talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: What happened to the kid that played well early. His mom was the flight attendant one of our members met. Ryan Lewis is his name and he’s our 3-4 CB. He is active. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I like the kid but he strikes me as quality depth more than a CB2 opposite Tre. Very good ball skills and instincts but smallish frame may pose problems against larger and more physical receivers on the outside and would offer little in run support. I can see him excelling in nickel/dime packages on passing situations. Reminds me a lot of Robey when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If they can add a good number 2 corner via free agency or draft, this defence should be lethal next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: I like the kid but he strikes me as quality depth more than a CB2 opposite Tre. Very good ball skills and instincts but smallish frame may pose problems against larger and more physical receivers on the outside and would offer little in run support. I can see him excelling in nickel/dime packages on passing situations. Reminds me a lot of Robey when he was here. I think if nothing else between him and Johnson and maybe Lewis, the team has good solid depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The youth on the defense is pretty amazing: First and 2nd year players: Tre White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmunds, Harrison Phillips Shaq Lawson is in year 3 and is 24. Trent Murphy, Poyer and Hyde are 27, Jordan Phillips (they should re-sign him) is 26. That's 10 players that probably haven't hit their prime. Jerry Hughes is 30 but seems to have a few years left. Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander are at the end of their careers but with the 11 listed above you're hopefully only looking for 1 starter (LB) and a rotational guy for Kyle if Phillips and Phillips can step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, chris heff said: I hope this guy is the answer, we shall see. The CB position was as mishandled as QB. LOL what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hopefully he pans out but I'd like to see us go for for a quality CB2 in the offseason even if he does look solid the rest of the way. You need that kind of depth at CB in the league now anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Guys..... We have a top 10 defense NOBODY has every position filled on their roster completely to their satisfaction Despite that we have a top 10 defense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: LOL what? So you think that Vonte Davis and Phillip Gaines were good FA signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, chris heff said: So you think that Vonte Davis and Phillip Gaines were good FA signings? They certainly were good departures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, chris heff said: So you think that Vonte Davis and Phillip Gaines were good FA signings? No, but this isn't a cover 1 team. The design of the defense protects CBs, so you don't need the equivalent of a franchise QB at CB to have a successful defense. McDemott can screw up the CB2 position the next 5 years, and the Bills could still have a top 5 defense each of those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, chris heff said: So you think that Vonte Davis and Phillip Gaines were good FA signings? No.....but do you really think we have a corner problem? If we had a corner problem we would not have a top 10 defense.....McD literally finds these guys in the dumpster bin 5 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: No, but this isn't a cover 1 team. The design of the defense protects CBs, so you don't need the equivalent of a franchise QB at CB to have a successful defense. McDemott can screw up the CB2 position the next 5 years, and the Bills could still have a top 5 defense each of those years. Exactly.....and you dont spend big money on the postion because we have a shutdown corner in white...which means we need to find someone LIKE Wallace who can hold his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 40 time scares me, maybe he’s faster now? Seem like he was a late bloomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 40 time scares me, maybe he’s faster now? Seem like he was a late bloomer Yeah, his 40 time wasn't anything to write home about. But, sometimes instinct & anticipation can make up for a 10th of a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, billykay said: Yeah, his 40 time wasn't anything to write home about. But, sometimes instinct & anticipation can make up for a 10th of a second. Maybe he's bad at running 40s and maybe as you say he can do zone just fine based on other attributes. But for perspective 3 D Linemen beat 4.63 in just this years combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadstroke Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, billykay said: Yeah, his 40 time wasn't anything to write home about. But, sometimes instinct & anticipation can make up for a 10th of a second. Well, I read that his 40 was 4.63. How in the world do you keep up? Was he maybe recovering from some sort of injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, billykay said: Yeah, his 40 time wasn't anything to write home about. But, sometimes instinct & anticipation can make up for a 10th of a second. 27 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Maybe he's bad at running 40s and maybe as you say he can do zone just fine based on other attributes. But for perspective 3 D Linemen beat 4.63 in just this years combine. Levi is just one of those guys who will never test well. That's why he was a walk one and and why he went undrafted. But he is surely a gamer who people will always underestimate. I dot know that he is truly a starting corner in this league, but I will not dare doubt him and I will be cheering every step of the way. He's still faster than Josh Norman. I'm actually more concerned with Levi's bulk than his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 hours ago, MJS said: Possibly... That's the extent of my analysis so far. excellent post, honest and to the point of the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Levi is just one of those guys who will never test well. That's why he was a walk one and and why he went undrafted. But he is surely a gamer who people will always underestimate. I dot know that he is truly a starting corner in this league, but I will not dare doubt him and I will be cheering every step of the way. He's still faster than Josh Norman. I'm actually more concerned with Levi's bulk than his speed. Im all for it ? wouldn't be be the first guy that didn’t measure up but succeeds in the right system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The good news is that McBean will know if he will be able to figure out if he is worthy of a spot next year or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 40 time scares me, maybe he’s faster now? Seem like he was a late bloomer I wouldn't worry too much about how quickly he can run 40 yards in a straight line. Never felt the 40 was truly all that demonstrative of a players speed, not useless, but not something to be concerned over. I'd be more concerned with how quickly he can accelerate AND change direction AND sustain it for more than/less than 40 yards, and how well he can read routes and anticipate. McD's defense is primarily zone based anyway, but plenty of "slower" DBs in the league make it work. He did go undrafted so it's not like we'll be seeing top metrics from him anyway - it's just about how he develops now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Loved him at Bama last year and was hoping we'd use a mid rounder on him. We got Taron Johnson in the 4th and Levi Wallace as an UDFA. Hoping he sticks. On a random note don't be too surprised if the Bills use their 1st rounder on a CB this year. You're going to see Greedy Williams being mocked to us a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Loved him at Bama last year and was hoping we'd use a mid rounder on him. We got Taron Johnson in the 4th and Levi Wallace as an UDFA. Hoping he sticks. On a random note don't be too surprised if the Bills use their 1st rounder on a CB this year. You're going to see Greedy Williams being mocked to us a lot. I have already seen this in a few early mocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I have already seen this in a few early mocks. He's super talented. I know people will be up in arms about it but how are people going to move the ball on us next year if we draft him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 4 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Loved him at Bama last year and was hoping we'd use a mid rounder on him. We got Taron Johnson in the 4th and Levi Wallace as an UDFA. Hoping he sticks. On a random note don't be too surprised if the Bills use their 1st rounder on a CB this year. You're going to see Greedy Williams being mocked to us a lot. I would HATE using a first rounder on a corner when we have a lock down corner already and so many needs on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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