26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Edited October 30, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Good, shut him down the rest of the season. Let him learn from the sidelines which was the original plan. Go 3-13 and get him better weapons next year. Upgrade the oline in FA. If he doesn't improve we'll know a lot more next year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Because they planning on losing the rest of em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 i wouldn't be opposed to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Good, shut him down the rest of the season. Let him learn from the sidelines which was the original plan. Go 3-13 and get him better weapons next year. Upgrade the oline in FA. If he doesn't improve we'll know a lot more next year. New QB's don't learn much from the sidelines. They are only ever there if there is already an entrenched starter on the roster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) That's would seem to be extremely suspicious. Clearly Beane and McDermott have quite a bit to gain by this type of delay. A QB doesn't learn on the sidelines. They learn on the field. And we in turn get to figure out what they're made of. Do not like this development one bit. Edited October 29, 2018 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Allen not playing was always part of the process. Most likely process version 2, but it just didn't work out with Peterman looking so bad. Edited October 29, 2018 by Greybeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 So Allen is starting tonight and Shady will become a patriot at halftime ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) GM speak. Any gm not looking to improve their team at the trade deadline is a bad gm. I don't care how bad they are. Or trying to get picks for players at the very least. Edited October 29, 2018 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: New QB's don't learn much from the sidelines. They are only ever there if there is already an entrenched starter on the roster. This is ridiculous, being on the sideline isn't the same as being on the field but you can learn plenty. Learning in part by watching is completely standard for literally everything else in life, but somehow that doesn't apply to NFL quarterbacking? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's would seem to be extremely suspicious. Clearly Beane and McDermott have quite a bit to gain by this type of delay. I don't know. NFL is first and foremost entertainment. People aren't paying to watch Anderson crap out the rest of the season. There's 8 more games to play... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I still would like to see Josh play the last few games. If he is healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm worried that elbow is worse than we think 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 If he doesnt play another snap then he already got more games then he should have this year....... This OL.....this supporting cast.....in bad need of upgrade to go along with our 7th overall pick investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Was looking forward to seeing him get back out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Avisan said: This is ridiculous, being on the sideline isn't the same as being on the field but you can learn plenty. Learning in part by watching is completely standard for literally everything else in life, but somehow that doesn't apply to NFL quarterbacking? It's not, in this league, how top 10 QB draftees are used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: I'm worried that elbow is worse than we think naaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Get another back up in. Cut Peterman and put Allen on ice for the rest of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: This. If he needs surgery they might as well draft another QB in this years draft. Let's hope rest and rehab gets him back to 100% no matter how long it takes. Edited October 29, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't know. NFL is first and foremost entertainment. People aren't paying to watch Anderson crap out the rest of the season. There's 8 more games to play... I take that point, but McBeane has a vested interest in keeping their jobs as long as humanly possible. From an organizational standpoint, it makes sense to play Allen, let him learn, and figure out what we have. From McBeane's perspective, the longer you can dangle the hope Allen represents in Pegula's face, you longer you collect a paycheck. I'm really not trying to bash JA here, but the sooner we find out what we have, the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Then the Bills better draft a QB in the first round if the prospect warrants it. How could the Bills just bank on Allen in 2019? Start making other plans going around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Ahhh....the old non-denial denial! Amp up the panic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 If that elbow is done who buying tickets for the rest of the games? Better to BS us with the week to week crap than admit our biggest investment is broken before the half season mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: If that elbow is done who buying tickets for the rest of the games? Better to BS us with the week to week crap than admit our biggest investment is broken before the half season mark some of us poor saps already have the tickets purchased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Also get Allen the surgery if he needs it. You don’t need an Isaiah Thomas situation where he goes out and 2 games in aggrevates it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Get another back up in. Cut Peterman and put Allen on ice for the rest of the year Or they could just forfeit the rest of the games to avoid the risk of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Perry Turtle Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Avisan said: This is ridiculous, being on the sideline isn't the same as being on the field but you can learn plenty. Learning in part by watching is completely standard for literally everything else in life, but somehow that doesn't apply to NFL quarterbacking? You probably watch several NFL games every weekend. Does it make you a better NFL QB? Watching didn't help EJ, or Cardale Jones, or Peterman for that matter. Players learn by playing. Edmunds plays the most demanding position on defense. Nobody made him sit and learn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Surgery would put him out for most if not all of the 2019 season as well. Do it. But the no surgery is required thing always seems to come back and bite pro athletes, Alex Rodriguez with the hip comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saratoga Leo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: You probably watch several NFL games every weekend. Does it make you a better NFL QB? Watching didn't help EJ, or Cardale Jones, or Peterman for that matter. Players learn by playing. Edmunds plays the most demanding position on defense. Nobody made him sit and learn. Tell that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: You probably watch several NFL games every weekend. Does it make you a better NFL QB? Watching didn't help EJ, or Cardale Jones, or Peterman for that matter. Players learn by playing. Edmunds plays the most demanding position on defense. Nobody made him sit and learn. Mahomes has put a big dent in this line of thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Also get Allen the surgery if he needs it. You don’t need an Isaiah Thomas situation where he goes out and 2 games in aggrevates it again. Who said he needs surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: If he gets surgery you might as well draft a QB in the first this year. That’s what I just said. Bills need to need draft another QB this year. They had to anyways to replace Peterman, the diffference is now it has to be a high pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Saratoga Leo said: Tell that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahones. Okay, I'm seeing them Wednesday, so I'll tell him them. Mahomes would have been fine starting last season. The guy can handle the football and can make more than one read, he didn't learn that running the scout team and watching the all-22. He's a true franchise QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Saratoga Leo said: Tell that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahones. You can say that with hindsight. But if Mahomes started last year right from the start he’d be ruined or something? I dont buy that he needed that one year watching or he’d be Trent Dilfer. I think good is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Mahomes has put a big dent in this line of thought. Right, if you disregard his natural talent and football acumen and make a giant leap in the logic of cause and effect. Mahomes, like Watson, would have been fine as a first year starter. Who knows, the Chiefs might have made the Super Bowl if they started him instead of Smith last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: Okay, I'm seeing them Wednesday, so I'll tell him them. Mahomes would have been fine starting last season. The guy can handle the football and can make more than one read, he didn't learn that running the scout team and watching the all-22. He's a true franchise QB. If Mahommes was starting here he would not have the all star cast of offensive players to INCLUDE a offensive line that doesnt let him get sacked..... He would NOT look like this with our players..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 If they don't play Allen for the rest of the season, then the questions are what is the severity of the injury, will it heal on its own, and whether surgery may be needed now or at a later point in time. Even if the answers to these questions are positive or somewhat positive, the Bills should acquire a quality QB (as a back-up or possible starter) in a trade or via free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I don't like that. If he's healthy he needs to play. Playing Derek Anderson over a healthy Allen and out of playoff contention is absolutely pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, Avisan said: This is ridiculous, being on the sideline isn't the same as being on the field but you can learn plenty. Learning in part by watching is completely standard for literally everything else in life, but somehow that doesn't apply to NFL quarterbacking? There's basically two groups of fans. There's the guys who want their first-round quarterback to be immediately sent into the game and learn on the job, on the fly. It's either sink or swim. Some succeed and some don't. Then there's the guys like Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers who are fortunate enough to sit for several years and learn behind Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Obviously the Bills don't have this luxury. I simply want Josh Allen to sit for one year if for no other reason than to see the speed of the game, not get injured and learn the nuances of the NFL, because no one disputes the fact that he was the most raw prospect coming out this year. It's not Josh's fault that McB did a poor job setting up a better mentor than McCarron. Now it's desperation time with Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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